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Re: JOe Friel's Triathlete's Training Bible: Worth getting 4th edition ? [lombardi3g]
lombardi3g wrote:

I'm surprised at the "garbage" comment made earlier in this thread - mainly bc no reasons to support the charge. The book is thorough and based on sports science as far as I can tell. Is for the serious athlete.


I have the original CTB and a TTB. Garbage is probably a bit harsh, but I understand the sentiment. Caveats: I haven't read either of my copies in....sheesh....20 years? And, I do not own the newer editions.

In general Joe massively overcomplicates things and presents concepts that sound like science, but aren't really. A couple of examples....One Legged Drills: These are worthless. I mean I guess its fine, if it breaks up the monotony of a 5 hour e1 ride, and keeps you going fine. But, in terms of a skill that you need to practice to be a better cyclist...um no. Or....muscular endurance. No such thing. Its called endurance.

Joe's approach laid out in the *TB series is like that guy at the pool that shows up with a bag of every toy known to man, lays them all out on deck, and does 30 minutes of toy-driven-drill after toy-driven-drill. Then gets out without ever having done a hard 100 yards.

Again, I haven't read the recent editions...since the inclusion of Training Stress Metrics. But, I've read most of Joe's web content (blogs, articles, etc). His explanations of TSS and CTL/ATL/TSB are misleading mostly, and in a few cases wrong. His advocacy for combining S/B/R TSS/CTL/ATL/TSB is poorly conceived---that's been discussed ad-naseum here on the forum.

That said, the *TB books are good for learning how to lay out a week, month, and year. Again, I think the books overcomplicate it, with all the periodation phases and stuff. But, I don't recall any of it being "wrong" per-se. So, if you don't know how to do that, the book(s) will help in that regard.

Does that make it a worthwhile purchase? I dunno. If you don't know how to separate out the good from the bad, then I'm not sure...probably not. Best case, you read (and believe) a bunch of crap, come on here to ask more questions and the collective has to clear up all the BS. Worst case, you read (and believe) a bunch of crap, and you don't come here to ask more questions and you just do what the book says.

Will you become a stronger triathlete following the book's guidelines? Probably. Anyone following a structure and doing regular training, with challenging workouts, will get better. That doesn't mean that the underlying "science" in the book is correct.

Again...I have NOT read the recent editions.
Last edited by: Tom_hampton: Oct 22, 20 7:12

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