"all i'm saying is, levi and george stood by and spectated, sometimes even abetted, all of that, and never said a word, and profited by it. and i can even understand that, to a degree."
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Oh how I agree....funny, I agree with most everything on these topics. The plots are so interwoven and are such a microcosm of human nature, although there is one who has certainly taken it all to the extreme.
I think this is a very interesting study into the characteristics of human behavior. It's a bit like Jesse James and the gang - there were bank robbers before and after. No one talked when it was going well. Then, one gets caught and squeals. The rest ride on as long as they can, and never fess up til they have to....and even then, they are plotting their next heist because that's just the way they are. I find the whole thing fascinating from a human and sociological perspective. I am not a Lance supporter or a Lance apologist but, it is certainly fascinating to dissect the behavior of some of the various characters.
In no particular order:
The motives, the plots, and the suspense over all the years.... just fascinating. Now, on other frontiers the same stories are at some stage of playing out (football, baseball soccer, ...Wall Street....or maybe even triathlon). Some of these have kids starting in high school so they can be bigger, stronger, and hit harder....actually this is a much nastier gang for society, but there is SOOO much money involved that know one yet knows whether or if they will deal with it.
Human dynamics never cease to amaze me...even after 1000s of years we all watch, and play, these same old games just in different forms and on different fields.
I wish I could type better and lay more of this out, but you get the point.
David
* Ironman for Life! (Blog) * IM Everyday Hero Video * Daggett Shuler Law *
Disclaimer: I have personal and professional relationships with many athletes, vendors, and organizations in the triathlon world.
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Oh how I agree....funny, I agree with most everything on these topics. The plots are so interwoven and are such a microcosm of human nature, although there is one who has certainly taken it all to the extreme.
I think this is a very interesting study into the characteristics of human behavior. It's a bit like Jesse James and the gang - there were bank robbers before and after. No one talked when it was going well. Then, one gets caught and squeals. The rest ride on as long as they can, and never fess up til they have to....and even then, they are plotting their next heist because that's just the way they are. I find the whole thing fascinating from a human and sociological perspective. I am not a Lance supporter or a Lance apologist but, it is certainly fascinating to dissect the behavior of some of the various characters.
In no particular order:
- Betsy - she wouldn't marry Frankie if he doped. At some point she either caved, or Frankie lied to Betsy. Either way she's ticked off and wants the Man hung high b/c her man wouldn't have been a robber if the Man wasn't
- Frankie - Betsy's mad at him and cuts him off - the only way he gets back in good graces is to turn in the Man. The Man doesn't want hung, so he bites back...perfectly predictable....shoots the witness so to speak. Interesting how he let's his wife do his bidding - telling.
- Tyler and Levi - they get taken down. Try as they might, they just can't do it on their own. So, when, and only when, there is nothing else to lose they come clean. Of course they have to blame someone, so the Man, who's still on the loose (and not doing himself any relationship favors) is the target. The Man rides on...for a while.
- George, Levi, and a cast of 100s just go along and get along as long as the going is good....and it works for quite some time. Then, when the posse gets really close and they know the end is in sight, well..... they are so very sorry, and cop to a light sentence....the Man still is out there fighting, robbing, and continuing on even though he knows the end is in sight.
- Kathy - she gets pretty vocal even though she has seen other heists in the past and says nothing. Of course, this is the only one who steal her man's thunder....then she complains when the fighter fights back. Again, talking for her man seems a bit odd
- Greg - don't know how clean he was way back then, but i have my thoughts. Nevertheless, there can't be much question that he knew of other "gangs" back then...and, he didn't do a whole lot of turning folks in; but, then, he was still the baddest on the frontier, so it's not his problem. There were lots of known bad guys riding around before and after but they were never a threat. Then, along comes a young gun slinger who is so good he steals the limelight and all of a sudden he has this great interest in cleaning up the whole wild West and it starts with one man, and one only.
- Travis - he is either one bad sheriff, or he is Marshall Dillon....I still haven't figured that out...it will be interesting to see how it plays out. He was on TV the other night when my youngest daughter walked through the room "Daddy, who is that man...he doesn't look nice - I don't like him" Interesting take on the Sheriff.
- The "Man" - he really cares about no one or nothing other than his own desires. It's all a means to his ends. He was the best and meanest gun slinger of the bunch. That's they way he is, and probably the way he will always be. Even when he is down he is fighting and scheming. Even if it makes no sense, the rage go on....that's just the way he is.
The motives, the plots, and the suspense over all the years.... just fascinating. Now, on other frontiers the same stories are at some stage of playing out (football, baseball soccer, ...Wall Street....or maybe even triathlon). Some of these have kids starting in high school so they can be bigger, stronger, and hit harder....actually this is a much nastier gang for society, but there is SOOO much money involved that know one yet knows whether or if they will deal with it.
Human dynamics never cease to amaze me...even after 1000s of years we all watch, and play, these same old games just in different forms and on different fields.
I wish I could type better and lay more of this out, but you get the point.
David
* Ironman for Life! (Blog) * IM Everyday Hero Video * Daggett Shuler Law *
Disclaimer: I have personal and professional relationships with many athletes, vendors, and organizations in the triathlon world.