Guilt by association is a good phrase. Polarizing was also used, another good choice. I got a few PMs saying that my words were good. I read a post that misquoted me as saying I don't know where I stand, where I clearly stated the opposite. The only wishy-washy part of my posts related to Brett are the should I post or not because I know what the responses will be.
If you support Lance, you support doping. If you hate Lance, you love cancer. That's usually how it ends up.
Is working with Brett the same as picking Conte or Ferari? I think that Andreau or Vaughters would be a better option. That was my first thought when that reply came up.
Probably some of the best words on this thread, in my opinion, were yours Jordan:
"Is Brett manipulative, authoritarian, and otherwise precisely the kind of the person who would prey on a female minor over whom he had authority. Yes, he is. And he did precisely that. But I also think he's a father and a mentor who cares a lot about people. I expect that whatever lead him to make that terrible, terrible decision is still very much a part of his psyche. But I also don't think it's his whole person.
The world is most comfortable to our brains when it's black and white. But I don't actually think the world is very black and white. Or, more specifically, I don't think that people are very black and white. Actions? Sure. Brett committed - no shades of grey - an atrocity. But does that make him - as a person - an atrocity? I don't want to take that view of the world. If people think less of me because of that, I'm okay with that."
Regarding some of the last couple of pages. Does some of what Brett might write or blog apply to coaching children, since that is the reason this whole thread started? Yes. Should he be allowed near them? No. And having that association with TeamTBB is one that was not there while we were on the team, and it is to me, a questionable angle. But, we have no association whatsoever with the team anymore, so those are not developments that I can speak to...like Jonnyo mentioned.
Would I refer a fellow professional to the team for what it offers? No, but that has everything to do with my results while racing on the team and managerial aspects of the team. The treatment that I received from Brett, that I saw from Brett directed towards his athletes was respectful. And, he has a passion for the sport to see it grow and thrive and to see the professionals in the sport be treated like professionals. That is why I stated that he was a steward of the sport. This is my last post on this subject, maybe on this board. I, like you, see in shades of grey or rose at times. That is a difficult position to hold. It is like sitting the fence with a post up your @$$.
Edited because the text came out funny.
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If you support Lance, you support doping. If you hate Lance, you love cancer. That's usually how it ends up.
Is working with Brett the same as picking Conte or Ferari? I think that Andreau or Vaughters would be a better option. That was my first thought when that reply came up.
Probably some of the best words on this thread, in my opinion, were yours Jordan:
"Is Brett manipulative, authoritarian, and otherwise precisely the kind of the person who would prey on a female minor over whom he had authority. Yes, he is. And he did precisely that. But I also think he's a father and a mentor who cares a lot about people. I expect that whatever lead him to make that terrible, terrible decision is still very much a part of his psyche. But I also don't think it's his whole person.
The world is most comfortable to our brains when it's black and white. But I don't actually think the world is very black and white. Or, more specifically, I don't think that people are very black and white. Actions? Sure. Brett committed - no shades of grey - an atrocity. But does that make him - as a person - an atrocity? I don't want to take that view of the world. If people think less of me because of that, I'm okay with that."
Regarding some of the last couple of pages. Does some of what Brett might write or blog apply to coaching children, since that is the reason this whole thread started? Yes. Should he be allowed near them? No. And having that association with TeamTBB is one that was not there while we were on the team, and it is to me, a questionable angle. But, we have no association whatsoever with the team anymore, so those are not developments that I can speak to...like Jonnyo mentioned.
Would I refer a fellow professional to the team for what it offers? No, but that has everything to do with my results while racing on the team and managerial aspects of the team. The treatment that I received from Brett, that I saw from Brett directed towards his athletes was respectful. And, he has a passion for the sport to see it grow and thrive and to see the professionals in the sport be treated like professionals. That is why I stated that he was a steward of the sport. This is my last post on this subject, maybe on this board. I, like you, see in shades of grey or rose at times. That is a difficult position to hold. It is like sitting the fence with a post up your @$$.
Edited because the text came out funny.
Brandon Marsh - Website | @BrandonMarshTX | RokaSports | 1stEndurance | ATC Bikeshop |
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