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Re: AG drug testing: so, what changes? [Devlin]
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Please. Invasion of my privacy? I can be drug tested by my employer at any time at his discretion. I accepted that when I took the job. If you know up front there is a chance you can be tested, then you have a choice. Either accept it or don't race. I was in the military. Same thing, except there they could show up and search your living space as well.


This isn't your job and it isn't the military. It's a hobby. If you are on drugs in the military and maybe you launch that rocket or fire off your gun and cause an international incident. If you are on drugs in you job, maybe you screw up that contract and a hundred people don't get their Christmas bonuses. If you are on drugs in Ironman Lake Placid, then maybe I don't get a Kona slot. Not even remotely in the same league, no matter how much I really really want to go there.

I realize that if they implement the rule and I sign up, I am agreeing to it. I don't dispute that. If they do implement it, I might even sign, just like all the rest of the sheep. I am simply saying that to allow something like drug testing to creep into age-group triathlons is putting an importance on the outcome that is far beyond the magnitude of the "crime". It is using a sledgehammer to swat a fly

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I'm not saying it's necessary for the "local yokel" triathlons,


Actually you kinda did:

"If I'm going to bust my ass training to try and get a podium spot (even if it's just a local sprint), I don't want some doping fucknut jacking me out of it"

But I accept your clarification. I just don't see that your getting "jacked out of it" as something that merits me having to pee in a cup and being tested for whatever the current administration deems "recreational drugs" or whatever else they don't like. Even more so out of competition.

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although for the bigger triathlons or Worlds qualifiers, etc., its looking like it might be. I'm saying I wouldn't care if they did implement it. In the grand scheme of things peeing in a cup every once in a while is no big deal. I think that anyone that qualifies for WC, Nationals, Team USA, any of the biggies SHOULD have immediate testing. All for it. I've been tested probably 25 times in my life, I never considered an "invasion of my privacy".
John



I've been tested it a couple of times and I have considered it an invasion of my privacy every time. However I realized, in those cases it clearly was necessary. In this case it is absolutely not. It does nothing but make some hobbyists feel better about themselves.

I am one of those hobbyists. If I ever miss a Kona slot by a place or two, I'll always wonder, "was it because some other guy took drugs?". But even if I am certain it was, I don't see the necessary remedy for that to force that other guy to pee in a cup while on his family vacation. Hell I don't even see the remedy as forcing him to pee into a cup while at a the race.

All anybody is "winning" here is bragging rights.
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