Actually - yes.

I found that the stages and 910 were very cranky. At times the 910 wouldn't even pick up the Stages. I kept changing batteries.

With the 920, that seems to have NEARLY gone away. I've had the 920 since the week of IMKona and have found that it syncs with my Stages MUCH faster. (I don't have to back pedal numerous times and wait or hold the battery door tight and wait. It just syncs as soon as I move my bike and am in bike mode.)

The one thing I do find is that if I'm out for an easy spin and doing a lot of coasting or downhill cruising, once I start to pedal again, the 920 beeps and says "Power Meter connected". I'm not sure why it does that...perhaps a bug. But the PM data on Garmin Connect has been pretty solid. And the connection issues have improved. It's much better than the with the 910.

Denise

Good to hear it's at least a little better.

How does the power data look at the times of coasting? Can you tell if it's still incorporating those zeroes? I guess it would be hard to tell based on there being a drop in general.

Do you have to answer the calibrate power meter question every time you start a ride?

The power data is 0. Looking at the data on Strava or GC I see the 0 power and cadence.

The places where the power meter dropped during sustained climbs is much easier to see though. And yes, the data is averaging this out. But I do not blame the 920 for this. I blame the PM for this because it's a finicky bastard sometimes. These issues have happened less and less with the 920. I had nearly given up on the PM with the 910 thinking it was just battery issues.

As for the calibrate power meter question - NOPE! Funny you ask that because I was just thinking the other day "how do I calibrate my PM on the 920?" I think I've seen that notification once and haven't seen it since. Quite nice actually.

Denise

Interesting that you blame the PM - I have a Stages and pair it with both the 910 and 510.

The 910 just won't pick it up - at least very intermittently. Apparently its an issue if you have a HRM connected as well as the Stages.

The 510 on the other hand is fine - picks it up no problem at all - see my race files from today:

910 Multi Sport link:

http://connect.garmin.com/...n/activity/646411244

510 Bike File

http://connect.garmin.com/.../646449839/1?lang=en

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Well, I blamed the Stages because I had the same issues happen on the 910 and my Edge 800.

I suspect it's an issue with the device rather than the PM but could be wrong.

Some are saying there's an issue with the 910 chip placement, but if that was the case why does it pick up a cadence sensor from further away than the Stages.

On reflection it's probably a combination of issues with both. Annoying as I'd much prefer to only have to funk about one device during a race.

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I think it's the 910. I have use my 910 and 510 with my Garmin Vector PM and the 910 has dropouts every mile while the 510 will have none.

Then I got a 920 and have absolutely no dropouts on the same bike and PM.

Any others have experience with the combination yet?

Had similar issues with Stages PM & 910XT and to a lesser extent with a Edge 500. With 910XT the packet drops were so frequent the power file was unusable. With edge 500 it was ok but there were some drops in many rides.

I raised support tickets with both companies, I found Stages is quite more responsive than garmin. It wasn't in Garmin's interest to help me with my Stages 6 months before they launched their pedal based PM and they didn't help much. Stages being a start up corp couldn't test quickly and they cannot openly blame garmin as garmin is a competitor but also their ANT+ chipset supplier (and the only one btw).

I found and concluded that 910XT (and Edge 500) uses an older ANT+ chipset than Stages PM does.
Older chipset has less RF channels and doesn't pair as well with newer devices using newer chipset. Stages support page came to similar conclusion several months later. See what they wrote about HRM and ANT+ pairing.

What I really don't like is that Garmin got rewarded with more business from me because of poor backward compatibility design & poor customer service by my buying yet another device: a edge 510. The packet drops issues disappeared with Edge 510. Every file is solid with no drops.Edge 510 use newer chipset and it pairs flawlessly with Stages PM.

I expect 920XT to have newer chipset and pair quite better but haven't had time to research and try it out. 920XT seems much more friendly in terms of uploading rides and runs up . Between shaky garmin connect sw and the 910XT, I often have to debug stuff to upload all files. I won't buy a 920XT until I figure out how it pairs with Stages PM and which chipset it has.

I now own two stages, a 920 and a 510.

920 has frequent drops and the occasional full disconnect.

Even having trouble with the 510. Multiple drops on a ride this morning.

Not sure if it's stages or garmins issue, but I'll be calling both.

I would suspect Garmin first. Stages may have issues but garmin has issues for sure all the time.


This morning I'm having a hard time getting the 910XT just uploading last week's worth of run and swim (no bike rides unfortunately). They're all in the 910xt history folder and just don't show up in garminconnect. Uploading should be easy - they need to learn to code.

have issues with the Garmin 500 where it will show no power or will go to 0 on a semi-regular basis.. usually picks right back up but there have been a few times where it just went completely stupid.... frustrating for sure.

Interesting. I have the same set up and have found no issues with either Garmin unit. The Stages finds and connects easily - except when the battery runs out which has happened twice in the last month.

My road bike Powertap is of course fantastic with no issues either.

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So, I was getting frequent drops and all out disconnects.

Was on the phone with Garmin, we noticed that the 2.7 firmware hadn't installed yet though I went through the process. We got it installed. After it wouldn't connect to any ant devices. Just wouldn't find them.

Garmin sent me a new unit. It connected and was fairly stable on one trainer ride. One or two drops. Definitely will happen when I sit up with my hand around my waist. So better but not flawless.

I have to say that so far I'm not blown away by the 920. The buttons seem way to easy to press. I'm wondering what the experience will be with a wetsuit. Whether the start/stop or lap buttons, or heck the power button, will get pressed by the wetsuit coming off.

Anybody try it with a wetsuit yet?

I just picked up a stages after hearing it was just as good as the quarq I had previously used (I changed crank lengths). So far my 920 won't find it after repeated attempts but my 510 DOES find it, although it doesn't pick up cadence. So very, very frustrating.

Stages is not as "good" as quarq. I knew I'd be giving up left right, but I was always within 1 or 2 percent there anyway.

Stages connection issues are frustrating. Quarq never dropped. Wish I hadn't switched.

I have. Open water swim training, but not a race situation.

The buttons did not get pushed in my "just swimming" situation, and I kinda think they wont as they are down on the side of the watch far enough.

One thing I did notice was that the band cut a good sore into my wrist near the clasp. That never happened with my 910.

In a race situation where you are trying to strip the wetsuit fast? I don't know yet.

Give the Velcro band a try. So far I like it.