I'm still in the 40-44's, for now. I age up on January 1.

TrisliceRS outtouched me in our virtual 200 free smackdown - he went 2:11 low, I did a 2:11.45. (Oh and TSRS is in the 45-49's...)

Just to clarify, when I say 'flatter', I don't mean flatter in the sense that my legs are more upright. I mean flatter meaning less rotation in the stroke. I feel as if I'm 'swimming too flat' as to coaches would say, when I'm using the PB, meaning that the natural rotation in my stroke is significantly decreased. (Which is again somewhat weird/surprising to me since I train with a vasa trainer a lot, which doesn't emphasize stroke rotation at all.)

Thank you and Tigerpaws for the replies. And wow, that is a fast time. In retrospect of this past year, I think some of my aggravation comes down to this. I dropped over an hour off my standalone marathon time in one year (4:24 to a 3:16 this past weekend in Vegas). And honestly I think I only ran over 30 miles per week twice all year. But, I only dropped two minutes off my 1.2 mile swim time over the past year. I hit a few 15K weeks during the peak but probably average around 10K a week. It has been a wonderful journey so I am not complaining. Triathlon has really helped me become a new person. It just makes me a little aggravated being the last one out of the water and not seeing that much improvement compared to the other two disciplines. I plan to hit it hard this December and January and get lessons and probably even a masters class, so I am confident I should see some gains by race season next year. Thank you for the guidance.

That's a good point, when I'm doing hard sets, especially fly sets, I do visualize what an "ideal" stroke would look like and try to do that. the "Phelps" style, which is very low and forward, breathing every stroke, with a really strong front end, is what usually comes to mind.

I'm a shitty breaststroker. Usually I'm just trying not to get lapped by the pregnant lady in my lane (said pregnant lady did a 2:58 for her 200 breast at the last meet...)

backstroke, I usually pretend I'm ryan lochte. not because Lochte is fast (because he is), just that my wife thinks he's really cute....

swimming is 100% fitness and 100% technique.

yea, i've seen him swim, and he's ridiculously smooth. He's probably technically the best in the world right now. Grevers is bloody fast too, but he's a beast. .

You can probably appreciate this one, Michael cbroom swam a 17:49 for a 2000 yd test set in practice... Split at the 1650 was 14:43 which converts pretty much on the nose to a 14:43 for a 1500 scm.

That's in practice!!

http://swimswam.com/...d-by-swimoutlet-com/

These guys are pretty good examples of how "swimming a lot" does make a difference. They have "ok" technique too :)

Ya, definitely, definitely, no question the world-class distance swimmers are going 80 to 100K per wk, just a huge, huge amount of swimming. Shoot, McBroom prob warms up with a 2000 scy free in a leisurely 22-24 min, or 1:06 to 1:12/100 scy warm-up pace:)

The 100k weeks aren't as in fashion as they used to be, just too hard to consistently swim fast on that kind of yardage. It's mostly just the open water guys doing the really insane distances now, from what I've read.

I'm still in the 40-44's, for now. I age up on January 1.

TrisliceRS outtouched me in our virtual 200 free smackdown - he went 2:11 low, I did a 2:11.45. (Oh and TSRS is in the 45-49's...)