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Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton
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What happened to this rider ? He was expected to do well in the pro peloton .He has been let go by Garmin ,loved his rebel attitude as well as his climbing abilities .
http://www.slipstreamsports.com/riders/lachlan-morton/
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [sward] [ In reply to ]
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sward wrote:
What happened to this rider ? He was expected to do well in the pro peloton .He has been let go by Garmin ,loved his rebel attitude as well as his climbing abilities .
http://www.slipstreamsports.com/riders/lachlan-morton/

He had a lackluster 2014 season. Not sure why.
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Would you say that he was let go?- or just not offered a new contract?
Garmin just combined forces and finances with Team Cannondale. It is natural that some riders
would not move forward with the new team.
Same thing happened when Garmin combined with Cervelo test team- many of the existing Garmin riders did not get contracts.
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [bootsie_cat] [ In reply to ]
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Not offered a contract like Gaimon
Supposed to be so good but........
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Says here Gaimon does not yet have a contract.
http://velonews.competitor.com/...e-sponsorship_341719
I agree that Morton is talented, but he has yet to show that talent at the next level.
He is one year behind Talansky who is already finding success in grand tours.
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [bootsie_cat] [ In reply to ]
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A rider with lots of potential who seems to be struggling with balancing the demands and desires to push to the next level. A likeable guy who would love to see succeed.

There is a great documentary he out together with his brother which is well worth 45 min of your time to watch.

http://cyclingtips.com.au/...hereabouts-the-doco/

I learned a long time ago that the only pertinent information you offer is found within the last sentence.
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [sward] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
bike racing is really hard.
Tri is harder and pay less

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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [BigCheese] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
BigCheese wrote:
Tri is harder and pay less

ever won a bike race?
no but I have done many. Does that qualify my answer?

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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [BigCheese] [ In reply to ]
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I think you need to have done both; bike racing is way harder IMO. Take stage racing alone--how many triathletes race multi-day events?
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [BigCheese] [ In reply to ]
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BigCheese wrote:
jackmott wrote:
BigCheese wrote:
Tri is harder and pay less

ever won a bike race?
no but I have done many. Does that qualify my answer?

There's a difference between doing and being competitive in a bike race. I raved tris for 5 or 6 years now only bike racing and bike racing is hard if not harder

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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [swimmer04] [ In reply to ]
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swimmer04 wrote:
BigCheese wrote:
jackmott wrote:
BigCheese wrote:
Tri is harder and pay less

ever won a bike race?
no but I have done many. Does that qualify my answer?

There's a difference between doing and being competitive in a bike race. I raved tris for 5 or 6 years now only bike racing and bike racing is hard if not harder
its hard yes but...I have a better chance winning a bike race then winning a run. Does that make running harder then biking? This is definitely the case for me...toeach his own I gguess, but for me the fact that you have three discipline s in one makes tri harder especially if you try to attain the same level. .as I do bike races and all sorts of other events as well.

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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
I think you need to have done both; bike racing is way harder IMO. Take stage racing alone--how many triathletes race multi-day events?

I've never suffered more than Green Mountain Stage race racing CAT2 which was clearly, for the top 15-20 guys there, a whole level above me. I point to that race as my best bike racing. And I didn't win a thing. A 5th in a stage and finishing the Crit in the front group. Never suffered liked that ever! I still have nightmares of the break. Absolute tears in agony!!

I went CAT3 the next year and the drop in level was immense. Still bloody hurt but far more controllable to my level. So I can't imagine CAT1 suffering!

My vote by a very wide margin is bike racing.

@rhyspencer
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [BigCheese] [ In reply to ]
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"Doing" is one thing, competing is another. Plus, are you doing it against cat 5s or 1s? Massive difference in difficulty. 1s (and often 2s) race with domestic pros, which is a little different than most tris.
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [rhys] [ In reply to ]
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rhys wrote:
Carl Spackler wrote:
I think you need to have done both; bike racing is way harder IMO. Take stage racing alone--how many triathletes race multi-day events?

I've never suffered more than Green Mountain Stage race racing CAT2 which was clearly, for the top 15-20 guys there, a whole level above me. I point to that race as my best bike racing. And I didn't win a thing. A 5th in a stage and finishing the Crit in the front group. Never suffered liked that ever! I still have nightmares of the break. Absolute tears in agony!!

I went CAT3 the next year and the drop in level was immense. Still bloody hurt but far more controllable to my level. So I can't imagine CAT1 suffering!

My vote by a very wide margin is bike racing.
you all fail to convince me on this forum. Remember I ride bikes too! Again I would say running is the hardest of the 3 discipline s but combines its a new ball gane. Lets not turn this into a pissing match

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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
"Doing" is one thing, competing is another. Plus, are you doing it against cat 5s or 1s? Massive difference in difficulty. 1s (and often 2s) race with domestic pros, which is a little different than most tris.
it doesnt matter. ..the level you compete at does not dictate which sport is harder but if you are going down that path...will you beat Phelps? Not a fucking chance mate...its all relative

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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Bike racing is very hard and you have to be extremely motivated. Lachlan just doesn't have that drive, and sometimes he just doesn't give a fuck. He forgets that racing a bike is his job. He made a documentary last year and pissed the team off by not riding his sponsored bike or wearing team kit. That plus a lack of motivation doesn't bode well for contract renewal.
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [BigCheese] [ In reply to ]
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I think really, we are talking about 'hardness' in terms of risk/reward - in which bike racing definitely trumps triathlon.
It is definitely 'harder' to make it as a professional bike racer than as a professional triathlete.

If you've got the fitness in triathlon, there's not much in the way of you winning races and landing some sponsors and making it big. Prize money certainly sucks but pro triathletes make a living off sponsorships, not really prize money. Even if you aren't a big name, it's pretty easy to get a pro card and got to big races.

If you want to make it as a bike racer, there's a whole host of hoops you have to jump through. You can be the fittest guy in the bunch... but you need some political skills ( getting to know the right people in the bunch, team managers, etc.) , a ton of luck ( not to crash and ruin equipment) and opportunity- you don't get spotted unless you get a chance to get invited to big races. For that first you need to get on a decent team- which again comes down to politics, fitness and luck.... it's this that burns lots of people seeking to become pro bikers out. you can train your heart out for a season and be on the cusp of something great- only for a piece of bad luck to smash all that in an instant. That could happen in tri sure... but its far less likely. This is compounded by the shitty shaky financial situation lots of pro cycling teams are in. just look at the career of people like Ben Day, who recently retired. talented guy but never got to the top level cos of some bad luck ( and hitching his cart to the Fly V fiasco...)

I have personal close friends who race continental and have spent years seeking to make it as a pro cyclist- seen what they've gone through and it's a hell of a gamble.
I have done all three sports mentioned- XC running, Triathlon, and bike racing. So long as I had the fitness in XC and tri, there was not much in my way getting good results- top 10 placings and whatnot. not a chance in bike racing.
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Re: Garmin Rider Lachlan Morton [davidalone] [ In reply to ]
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I get where you are going.

But this in turn forces us to use a metric to measure against.

If we use your metric I agree as it matches closely with what I had in mind...efficiency.

From hard to easy.
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...hey wait that puts running nearly at the bottom for me...my thinking must be all whacked; or maybe some people just suck more then me. Awesome

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