i'm just wondering, did anybody think of taking a pressure washer out there and washing off the chalk? i mean, if it was offensive to the community of LP or whomever, was that not a thought? even if i had no equipment, a pressure washer, a small water tank, and a generator to power the pressure washer, all in from harbor freight or northern tool would run you well under $1000.

and then somebody has a pressure washer, a water tank and a generator. for next year.

hey, i'm in california. i would consider hartford to placid a nice sunday drive. but i see your point.

still, somebody just needed to take a pressure washer or a scrub brush out there, rather than getting everybody's panties in a wad. the sport is too small, the friendships too dear, to make a federal case out of it. and i don't mean to point this at any particular side. just, a scrub brush and a pail of water, and 15 minutes of elbow grease, would have solved the problem unless there's something i'm missing.

hey, i'm in california. i would consider hartford to placid a nice sunday drive. but i see your point.

still, somebody just needed to take a pressure washer or a scrub brush out there, rather than getting everybody's panties in a wad. the sport is too small, the friendships too dear, to make a federal case out of it. and i don't mean to point this at any particular side. just, a scrub brush and a pail of water, and 15 minutes of elbow grease, would have solved the problem unless there's something i'm missing.

Let's not forget the hypocrisy that is most WTC courses being marked with actual spray paint...

"Let's not forget the hypocrisy that is most WTC courses being marked with actual spray paint..."

i think this was a specific issue for the community of lake placid. i remember a big, important race on my schedule, this goes back 20 years or so, a 1,500 or 2,000 person race, really important race, just got canceled because the community got tired of the gel wrappers and other trash that didn't get picked up. the community said, "no more." i therefore think that issues like this can get filed under "listen to the community, do what you can to be sensitive to the partnership you have with it."

so, regardless of what happens at other races, the issue here was, scrub brush and bucket of water. i don't think this was any specific person's duty. it's everybody's duty. seems to me it's ironman's duty to let everyone know, everyone's duty to make sure they take care of the chalk they or their families leave, and then ironman's duty to go out with a scrub brush afterward for the selfish or clueless people who didn't read the memo.

All the ones I've seen in the past few years have been marked with duct tape, not spray paint.

i'm just wondering, did anybody think of taking a pressure washer out there and washing off the chalk? i mean, if it was offensive to the community of LP or whomever, was that not a thought? even if i had no equipment, a pressure washer, a small water tank, and a generator to power the pressure washer, all in from harbor freight or northern tool would run you well under $1000.

and then somebody has a pressure washer, a water tank and a generator. for next year.

All the ones I've seen in the past few years have been marked with duct tape, not spray paint.

"Let's not forget the hypocrisy that is most WTC courses being marked with actual spray paint..."

i think this was a specific issue for the community of lake placid. i remember a big, important race on my schedule, this goes back 20 years or so, a 1,500 or 2,000 person race, really important race, just got canceled because the community got tired of the gel wrappers and other trash that didn't get picked up. the community said, "no more." i therefore think that issues like this can get filed under "listen to the community, do what you can to be sensitive to the partnership you have with it."

so, regardless of what happens at other races, the issue here was, scrub brush and bucket of water. i don't think this was any specific person's duty. it's everybody's duty. seems to me it's ironman's duty to let everyone know, everyone's duty to make sure they take care of the chalk they or their families leave, and then ironman's duty to go out with a scrub brush afterward for the selfish or clueless people who didn't read the memo.

this was a last-year's-race issue tho, no? so, i'd suspect (and hope) there were no like issues this year.

Did you personally see the original email?

I am not going to comment on the "incidents," in question. I am however am going to comment on the claimed threats Jeff Edwards made to this group. Let it be known I have nothing to do with WTC...so this is not written with ulterior motives.

I have personally known Jeff Edwards and his family for 15 years. For a bit of background, Jeff raised his family in Lake Placid and got involved with Ironman like many locals in the sense that it was something exciting that came to our town. Prior to working for Ironman Jeff was an educator at a small private school teaching English and philosophy. I attended the school where he taught and though never had him as a teacher, he was a very upstanding and respected member of the staff. As a younger man I recall thinking of him as a serious person, but at the same time very relaxed and grounded. I recall many weekends seeing him and his wife with their young children(one on his back,) setting off on hikes into the high peaks.
I've been in this sport now for almost 9 years and always enjoy bumping into Jeff at different events around the country. It is always clear to me how professional and serious Jeff is about his job with Ironman. With this said I think I can speak for all that actually know Jeff Edwards and say there is no way I can fathom him making physical threats to anyone, let alone people involved with his business!
I am not calling the other party liars necessarily, but that sort of claim against Jeff is character assassination on a public forum without substantive proof.