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AaronT

Aug 13, 12 15:12

Post #51 of 60 (1408 views)
Re: Embarrassing Womens Olympic Tri [spadddd] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

spadddd wrote:
WyoWill wrote:
Wait, was the speed really 30 kph? Where are you getting that number?


out of his ass, like pretty much everything posted on this board except by about a half dozen people

Much like the claim made right there.


TGCarlson

Aug 13, 12 18:21

Post #52 of 60 (1353 views)
Re: Embarrassing Womens Olympic Tri [tridork] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

The Olympic men averaged 25.28 mph.

The Olympic women averaged 22.70 mph -- 4.3 mph faster than your insulting comment.

Corners, handlebar to handlebar racing. Strategic surges, some waiting around.

Then the men ran a 29:07 10k. The women ran 33:40 or so.

Lisa Norden won last year's $151,000 first place check at Hy-Vee.
No pure non drafting triathlete beat her.

To TriDork:

The reason the Olympics aren't non-drafting is NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND wants
to see the triathlon decided after the race in a small airless room with testimony, lawyers and judges.
Maybe you'd prefer Judge Judy to decide your race for the gold?

If you paid attention, you'd know that the Brownlee brothers ride flat out and try to leave the pack behind
and succeed much of the time. Likely they would kill on the bike and run at Hy-Vee.

Secondly, Nicola Spirig had not trouble setting fastest bike split for the women in 70.3s - then winning.
Lisa Norden, as previously noted, more than held her own unaided on the 40k bike at Hy Vee
and then took care of business on the run.

Everyone it entitled to their own opinion. But not their own facts.


TGCarlson

Aug 13, 12 18:33

Post #53 of 60 (1337 views)
Re: Embarrassing Womens Olympic Tri [TGCarlson] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

To TriDork:

Sorry my facts were wrong.

The Olympic bike course was 43 kilometers or 26.703 miles.

Therefore the women averaged 24.46 mph -- 6 mph faster than your off the cuff insult.

The men averaged 27.24 mph.

With 15 sharp corners on each of 7 laps. And a lot of
slowing down for strategic purposes.


cowardlydragon

Aug 13, 12 19:09

Post #54 of 60 (1297 views)
Re: Embarrassing Womens Olympic Tri [Jctriguy] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Jctriguy wrote:
Grant.Reuter wrote:

Have you been to a worlds race before? It doesn't matter what course you put it on, 95 percent of the people draft, you have way to many people in the first place there, and all of the people are essentially going the same speed because everyone is around the same level all of those things cause a lot of wrecks. I saw two in front of me in vancouver, one while watching the Oly in gold coast. I don't remember any in Budapest but i'm sure there was, I almost wrecked myself there because we still had standing water on the road and I hit a pothole I couldn't see since it was filled with water. There will be a bunch of wrecks but it wont be a new occurance because of the course I'll tell you that, also from what I understand a lot of the women pros aren't that good at bike handling anyways.


This is the key. You can't have a non-drafting race at this level unless you hold it as a time trial with staggered starts. The only Worlds I've been to that didn't have drafting was in Lausanne, the course was very hilly and it split up the bike packs quite easily. The Gold Coast races were a total joke. Everyone was drafting everyone. Take the 25-29 AG with 110 starters and at least 20 coming out of the water within a 30-1:00

There's these thing called hills. Tends to separate the men from the boys and the ladies from the girls.

Less well known are the cobblestones.

But ITU is about appearances and collecting the dough as part of the Olympic sports apparatus. Same ballpark as the olympic officials bribery demands, just a wee bit less.


BDoughtie

Aug 13, 12 19:19

Post #55 of 60 (1279 views)
Re: Embarrassing Womens Olympic Tri [cowardlydragon] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

But ITU is about appearances and collecting the dough as part of the Olympic sports apparatus.

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LOL, like WTC isnt about collecting money and turning it's head with "drafting" issues for many of it's IM's?
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Brooks Doughtie
USAT-L2, Y&J; USAC-L2;Tri Coach-NC State
All Out MultiSport Elite Development Team
http://www.aomultisport.com


bristri

Oct 28, 12 21:37

Post #56 of 60 (1029 views)
Re: Embarrassing Womens Olympic Tri [TGCarlson] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Please message me, you took photo's on our engagement. Thanks!


nickvironman

Oct 28, 12 22:05

Post #57 of 60 (971 views)
Re: Embarrassing Womens Olympic Tri [tridork] (Deleted by nickvironman) [In reply to]

 


Salmon Steve

Oct 28, 12 23:06

Post #58 of 60 (916 views)
Re: Embarrassing Womens Olympic Tri [nickvironman] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Check out the date of his post...


nickvironman

Oct 29, 12 1:28

Post #59 of 60 (809 views)
Re: Embarrassing Womens Olympic Tri [Salmon Steve] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Ha ha... so the embarrassing one is on me.... Dork :-)


irncpl

Oct 29, 12 1:50

Post #60 of 60 (786 views)
Re: Embarrassing Womens Olympic Tri [tridork] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

tridork wrote:
I got that number from the TV. Teh coverage I watched here in NZ said they were cruising between 30-34. The commentators were Hamish Carter and Mark Watson. I know them both. Watching it, I certainly agree. They were CRUISING.

They didn't get caught becasue the girls in the back group didn't want to catch them.

Everyone sat around waiting for someone else to do the work. IT was the same as the mens road race where everyone sat up waiting for someone else to work. Vino stole that win!


Like Mark Watson knows what he's talking about...Half the time he couldn't call the Kiwi girls correctly - Nicky Tanner??? And Hamish, bless him but he's not a commentator anymore than Mark Watson is.

It was a great race on a technically challenging physical course.

By all means have a plan, but the best plan is to have a plan to change the plan.


(This post was edited by irncpl on Oct 29, 12 1:51)

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