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bluepoint

Oct 2, 12 19:59

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Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I could be wrong, but I don't think Paula has publicly blamed anyone for her race in London or her anemia. At least I haven't seen any mention in her blog or post race interviews.


racin_rusty

Oct 2, 12 20:05

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Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [bluepoint] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I'm with you there bluepoint, I can't recall anywhere that she outright pointed a finger at anyone. If she did, could someone please point it out to me since I obviously missed it.

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iron_mike

Oct 2, 12 23:44

Post #178 of 187 (999 views)
Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [racin_rusty] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

yup - to an extent, paula's been a passenger in all of this. i think that's unfortunate - she needs to step out in front of this and start controlling the narrative a bit.

i love simon, but he fought fire with gasoline here and should probably step up and make things right.

this was front-page news in canada, and several people lost their jobs and got dragged through the mud.

paula - time to start driving this bus.

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gsmacleod

Oct 3, 12 3:31

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Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

devashish_paul wrote:
I know what you are saying, but at this point she needs to move on and plan for the future. No point in further finger pointing in the past. She can't change that, and if she learned anything, in the end it is her shattered dream not anyone elses. I get it that coaches are supposed to help, but maybe some coaches did try to help and she did not follow the plan or did more than the plan or do all the other things that every athlete is know to do to self sabotage. I don't have any visibility into either side of the story, just saying that at some point an adult needs to be accountable to themselves.

Dev,

It seems as though, even though you admit to not knowing what happened, you're perfectly happy to decide Paula is the one at fault. You suggest that maybe she was self sabotaging and that she's the one who hasn't taken accountability. Yet, when watched the race and read what Paula said on the hours, days and weeks after London, she is quite willing to be accountable and, besides thanking Simon for his support, wasn't calling anyone out.

I agree that an athlete needs to take responsibility for their performance but it seems as though you are discounting the role of the coach and support staff. If elite athletes are impacted in such a minor way by coaching and support staff, why are we investing in these positions? Just because the coach doesn't stand on the podium with the athlete, that doesn't mean the coach is not invested in the athlete's performance nor that they don't share the blame if things go off rails.

Shane
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devashish_paul

Oct 3, 12 5:32

Post #180 of 187 (871 views)
Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [gsmacleod] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

See what iron_mike said

"Paula, time to start driving the bus"

He said it much better than me in a lot less words.

I know what you are saying about coaches support staff etc. To me that's another thing that needs to be fixed too (looks like they are already doing something anyway). Paula was a good athlete long before she had the help of all of those high profile coaches. She can drive her own bus a bit more and take some backseat navigation help from the rest of the crew that Triathlon Canada gives her rather than be a passenger!

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iron_mike

Oct 3, 12 5:52

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Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

yeah - honestly, as the smoke starts to clear, i see a lot of losers so far but no winners. this situation has cost some people their jobs, some their reputations (or parts of their reputations), some their olympics (or even their whole season). lots of losers. no winners.

if it was me, i'd call macleans, call CTV, call the globe, and get in front of this. create a coherent, concise central narrative. own it and deliver it, and then turn the page and move things forward.

-mike
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gsmacleod

Oct 3, 12 6:38

Post #182 of 187 (806 views)
Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

devashish_paul wrote:

I know what you are saying about coaches support staff etc. To me that's another thing that needs to be fixed too (looks like they are already doing something anyway). Paula was a good athlete long before she had the help of all of those high profile coaches. She can drive her own bus a bit more and take some backseat navigation help from the rest of the crew that Triathlon Canada gives her rather than be a passenger!

If she has been a passenger, then I agree that she needs to take responsibility for her training and racing and ensure she accepts assistance from her support team. However, based on the information available to the public, I don't know that we can say she wasn't taking or trying to take responsibility for her training and racing. I have no doubt that there is plenty of blame to go around in this situation and putting it all on Paula seems somewhat shortsighted.

Shane
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iron_mike

Oct 3, 12 6:53

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Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [gsmacleod] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

to be clear, i want to separate out what happened leading up to and during the games, and what's happened after. (ie., the response.)

definitely, coaches should wear some of the responsibility for athlete prep.

but after the fact - the media storm, the firings, the muckraking, etc - i really do think paula should be owning more of that. step front and center and create the messaging. frankly, i think it wouldn't kill whitfield to, either. he played a big old part in stirring this pot. . .

-mike
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gsmacleod

Oct 3, 12 6:59

Post #184 of 187 (767 views)
Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [iron_mike] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

iron_mike wrote:

but after the fact - the media storm, the firings, the muckraking, etc - i really do think paula should be owning more of that. step front and center and create the messaging. frankly, i think it wouldn't kill whitfield to, either. he played a big old part in stirring this pot. . .

I agree but to me it seems that there has been an effort to keep things relatively quiet (such as the investigation into anemia being made an inhouse, not for public consumption investigation and the firing of Pat Kelly being pretty low key).

Shane
ScotiaMultisport


devashish_paul

Oct 3, 12 7:05

Post #185 of 187 (756 views)
Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [gsmacleod] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Yeah, but the anemia part did not need to go on Paula's public blog. What did that solve? Was she blaming herself for the Anemia or the people around her?

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bluepoint

Oct 3, 12 7:49

Post #186 of 187 (703 views)
Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

She didn't blame anyone for the anemia in her blog.

She said she wrote about it because so many people were asking what races she was going to do next. I guess this was her way of saying 'nothing for a while'.

To me Paula's move to train with Simon's group is a sign of her trying to take responsibility for her career.

I really hope she gets herself all sorted out and just crushes it next year!


gsmacleod

Oct 3, 12 10:59

Post #187 of 187 (609 views)
Re: Whitfield's Tweet - meaning? [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

devashish_paul wrote:
Yeah, but the anemia part did not need to go on Paula's public blog. What did that solve? Was she blaming herself for the Anemia or the people around her?

I don't know whether she was blaming herself or others; I suspect that she put it on the blog in response to questions she was recieving about racing (especially after announcing that she was planning to race several times after London) and in relief that she had an answer to explain why her fitness wasn't coming around like she expected.

I didn't read it as though she was blaming others but I guess that would depend on who is reading the blog.

Shane
ScotiaMultisport

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