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RebeccaCreekKid

Jul 25, 12 7:39

Post #126 of 134 (388 views)
Re: AG Doping: Why does it stop at the test? Let's get "Left of the Boom" [cortez] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
British Triathlon Doping Rules
Section 1.3b

iii. making him/herself available for Testing at all times, whether In-Competition or Out-of-Competition;

So what exactly were you saying again?


cortez

Jul 25, 12 8:43

Post #127 of 134 (373 views)
Re: AG Doping: Why does it stop at the test? Let's get "Left of the Boom" [RebeccaCreekKid] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
The only problem with the rule you've quoted is that it doesn't apply to me.

The below are age group rules for 2012:

http://www.britishtriathlon.org/...up/rulebook_2012.pdf

It's funny but I don't see the part about making myself available for Testing at all times, whether In-Competition or Out-of-Competition.


Grande Pelota

Jul 25, 12 9:16

Post #128 of 134 (362 views)
Re: AG Doping: Why does it stop at the test? Let's get "Left of the Boom" [ericM35-39] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
What about the age group pot smokers, of whom there are surely multitudes. Marijuana is banned substance and is tested for, though it's benefits in endurance sports are minimal and questionable. What of these folks? Even if WADA, USADA, WTC or whomever, states that this will not be included in the testing protocol? What of those folks who simply want to complete at their hobby at a high level, they also want to continue to smoke pot recreationally and they do not want a urine or blood sample floating around that would reveal their recreational drug use, whether they have been assured it won't be tested for recreational substances or not?


RebeccaCreekKid

Jul 25, 12 11:37

Post #129 of 134 (339 views)
Re: AG Doping: Why does it stop at the test? Let's get "Left of the Boom" [cortez] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
"These UK Anti-Doping Rules (as amended from time to time, the "Rules") are intended to implement the requirements of the World Anti-Doping Code (the "Code") on a national basis within the United Kingdom. They may be adopted and incorporated into the rulebook of any national governing body in the United Kingdom, i.e., any sports organisation that serves as the ruling body for a sport or for an event involving one or more sports (the “NGB”). Where an NGB resolves to adopt the UK Anti-Doping Rules, it shall be deemed to have incorporated these Rules into its rulebook as if it had set them out in full therein."

So does British Triathlon fall under the scope of UK Anti Doping?

Perhaps you are free and clear. But I know a mid-level master's cyclist who had anti-doping show up at his door. They explained to him that, simply by having a license, he had accepted testing; both in and out of competition. Yes, this happened in America and yes, it was cycling. It would not surprise me if other NGBs operate the same way in other countries. It certainly sounds like this is the case for you in Britain.

If you know for 100% certain that the rules I've quoted do not apply to you, can provide chapter and verse that either British Triathlon, or your particular type of license within British Triathlon, is exempt from the above rules, and you knew this before the fact, then I will apologize.


And, in addition to reading the rule book, I own an atlas and have traveled extensively. But thanks for attacking me based on my nationality. I will refrain from comments about your teeth and the size of your country. Cheers. I will also refrain from commenting on personal rights campaigning by a citizen of Britain. Although we have lost far too many of them in this country, our brothers across the pond have lost far more.


pick6

Jul 25, 12 11:49

Post #130 of 134 (332 views)
Re: AG Doping: Why does it stop at the test? Let's get "Left of the Boom" [Grande Pelota] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Grande Pelota wrote:
What about the age group pot smokers, of whom there are surely multitudes. Marijuana is banned substance and is tested for, though it's benefits in endurance sports are minimal and questionable. What of these folks? Even if WADA, USADA, WTC or whomever, states that this will not be included in the testing protocol? What of those folks who simply want to complete at their hobby at a high level, they also want to continue to smoke pot recreationally and they do not want a urine or blood sample floating around that would reveal their recreational drug use, whether they have been assured it won't be tested for recreational substances or not?

It's my opinion not everything is banned due to performance; some are banned due to safety. Pot is a depressive which can decrease reaction times. I dont want a crash happening in front of me and the guy next to me on pot unable to react in time.


53x12

Jul 25, 12 11:59

Post #131 of 134 (318 views)
Re: AG Doping: Why does it stop at the test? Let's get "Left of the Boom" [pick6] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
pick6 wrote:
Grande Pelota wrote:
What about the age group pot smokers, of whom there are surely multitudes. Marijuana is banned substance and is tested for, though it's benefits in endurance sports are minimal and questionable. What of these folks? Even if WADA, USADA, WTC or whomever, states that this will not be included in the testing protocol? What of those folks who simply want to complete at their hobby at a high level, they also want to continue to smoke pot recreationally and they do not want a urine or blood sample floating around that would reveal their recreational drug use, whether they have been assured it won't be tested for recreational substances or not?

It's my opinion not everything is banned due to performance; some are banned due to safety. Pot is a depressive which can decrease reaction times. I dont want a crash happening in front of me and the guy next to me on pot unable to react in time.


Guess we gotta get rid of all of those old geezers that race. Max age limit should be 60. /pink


cortez

Jul 25, 12 13:10

Post #132 of 134 (298 views)
Re: AG Doping: Why does it stop at the test? Let's get "Left of the Boom" [RebeccaCreekKid] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Yes, I'm free and clear. But thanks for taking the time to look into it for me.

Just a suggestion, but if you don't like sarky responses you may want to rethink the Dear Numbnuts thing.


Ahillock

Jul 25, 12 13:40

Post #133 of 134 (287 views)
Re: AG Doping: Why does it stop at the test? Let's get "Left of the Boom" [cortez] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
cortez wrote:
Yes, I'm free and clear. But thanks for taking the time to look into it for me.

Just a suggestion, but if you don't like sarky responses you may want to rethink the Dear Numbnuts thing.


Agreed. I think Rebecca is a troll.


pick6

Jul 25, 12 13:44

Post #134 of 134 (280 views)
Re: AG Doping: Why does it stop at the test? Let's get "Left of the Boom" [53x12] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
53x12 wrote:
pick6 wrote:
Grande Pelota wrote:
What about the age group pot smokers, of whom there are surely multitudes. Marijuana is banned substance and is tested for, though it's benefits in endurance sports are minimal and questionable. What of these folks? Even if WADA, USADA, WTC or whomever, states that this will not be included in the testing protocol? What of those folks who simply want to complete at their hobby at a high level, they also want to continue to smoke pot recreationally and they do not want a urine or blood sample floating around that would reveal their recreational drug use, whether they have been assured it won't be tested for recreational substances or not?


It's my opinion not everything is banned due to performance; some are banned due to safety. Pot is a depressive which can decrease reaction times. I dont want a crash happening in front of me and the guy next to me on pot unable to react in time.



Guess we gotta get rid of all of those old geezers that race. Max age limit should be 60. /pink

I know youre being sarcastic, but its a decent point, and why a lot of people want to require people beyond a certain age to take a road test to keep their license each year beyond a certain age. I was simply pointing out that there are medical reasons beyond performance enhancement that get drugs on the banned list.

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