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Tom A.
Jul 11, 12 14:23
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styrrell wrote:
They buy it based on perceived ride quality and they are fighting a losing battle because Al perceived ride quality is 4th out of 4 major materials.
So dumb...it's not the material, it's what you DO with it that counts.
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styrrell
Jul 11, 12 17:45
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Of course but if you are in the business of selling bikes you are stuck with selling stuff the customers will buy. Take TT bikes. 99.99% of tri/TT bikes sold don't have to be UCI legal, but 99.99 % of the bikes bought are UCI legal.
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shadwell
Jul 11, 12 17:59
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The hydro forming tooling could be used across a number of grades of ALU, and hence a viable cost achieved whilst still allowing something special on the S-Works apart from a high finishing kit spec... (assuming the "higher end" Alu can achieve the same forming without structural compromise, e.g. butting too thin to allow forming.. etc etc).
Agree; rightly or wrongly the populus perception of ALU is old school low tech and inferior....
My Cannondales and Klien & Scandium Ribble suggest they have a lot to offer in the right application, Crit racing certainly being one of those applications IMO...
Still spend the most hours on the Carbon LOOKS though...
So even if Spec achieve a super ALU frame, they willlikely have challenges selling it at a higher cost... simply due to perception, and the markets current use of ALU.. i.e. disposable due to lower cost...
rpeterson
Jul 11, 12 18:00
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styrrell wrote:
Of course but if you are in the business of selling bikes you are stuck with selling stuff the customers will buy. Take TT bikes. 99.99% of tri/TT bikes sold don't have to be UCI legal, but 99.99 % of the bikes bought are UCI legal.
I thought that all the Cervelo P bikes were UCI illegal in stock form due to the seat-post.
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styrrell
Jul 11, 12 18:14
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Pretty sure they were legal when designed and then made illegal
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Jul 11, 12 18:25
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Makes sense then.
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Runless
Jul 18, 12 12:18
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was cruising weightweenies and apparently there will be an allez that is only 20 grams heavier than the sworks being sold for $880 for a frameset. They made up most of the weight difference by anodizing the non s-works bike, whereas the s-works is painted.
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The New Specialized Wind Tunnel
Will this be a game changer for Specialized, in both sales and product design, or will it not move the sales and design needle versus those in Specialized's competitive set?
Yes, Game Changer
Minor move forward
Won't budge the needle
