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Elements of a Solid Running Plan – Putting them together
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In four recent posts I covered 3 basic phases of run training:



1) Base – mainly LSD, some tempo (LT)

2) Transition – more tempo, some 200’s, 400’s, or hills

3) Sharpening – track intervals, races



These can be found here:



http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ring=BarryP;#1036945

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ring=BarryP;#1020449

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ring=BarryP;#1020644

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ring=BarryP;#1030125



It’s a great place to start, but now one must ask when? How long? How fast? How many? Etc. This is where the training becomes very individualized and YOU have to figure these things out for yourself. No “training plan,” “book,” or random STer (like myself) can tell you exactly what workouts to run without knowing your specific experiences, traits, talents, etc. However, from these sources you CAN get a good picture of what typically works (and doesn’t work).



So here I will try to list the important elements of run training and talk a little about how they fit into a training program and then how one can make adjustments to their individual needs.



THE ELEMENTS:



1) Lots and Lots of Running

2) Long Runs

3) Tempo Runs (@ LT pace)

4) V02max Intervals (@ 12-15 minute race pace)

5) Repetitions (@ 2-5 minute race pace)

6) Hills

7) Plyometrics, technique drills

8) Striders

9) Core strengthening exercises, injury prevention exercises, stretching, etc.



Most of these have been discussed already and most people do most of these all ready. Personally I think when evaluating your own running program, instead of looking forward, you should first look back. Odds are, you may make the biggest gains by incorporating the element that has been missing from your program. Each of these training elements will stimulate specific adaptations to occur. The largest improvements typically occur in the early stages of this training.



For example, if a sedentary person was to begin running 15 minutes a day, he will likely see more improvements in the first month than he will after a year of doing the same training. So, in month 1 he goes from a 30 minute 5K to a 26 minute 5K. In month 12 he goes from 23 minute to 22:30.



My point is that the addition of a missing element may be the next big step that will lead to improvement in your running.



THE PHASES:



No matter what your race distance (800 meters and beyond) or your level of ability, the phases of training don’t really change (for most people). What does change is the length of each phase and the level of intensity within those phases. Here I want to briefly talk about what goes into each phase:



1) Base – You are either completely out of shape, or you have just finished a racing season. No matter what event you are doing, your number one priority is to run lots and lots of miles……PERIOD! It takes a really long time to build up a solid foundation of running. There are other elements of training that will give you great short term improvements, but since your races are so far away at this point, don’t worry about them. Build your mileage!



Depending on your goals, the base phase will be handled differently by different people. Everyone will want to build lots of slow miles and increase the length of their long run, however, intermediate and advanced athletes will likely want to add in a tempo run after only a few weeks into this phase.



2) Transition – at some point the benefits of high volume training will begin to plateau. You plan to do some harder training as your races approach but you shouldn’t go into that training cold. You need to prepare yourself for the intensity of racing and training. Here is where you will want to incorporate either some hills, some lighter V02max intervals, or some 200’s and 400’s. Which should you do? It will all depend on how your body responds, however, as stated before, I think that all types of training should be done at some point during the year. Some people will do a mix, some will opt for hills to carry them through the end of an HIM, some will opt for 200’s in preparation for an up and coming 5K race, some may do which ever element has been missing in the last 3 years. Here is where you must experiment and see what you respond best to. The key is, don’t overdo anything.



During this transition phase most people will see their increases in mileage slow if not stop al together. Because you are adding some intensity, it will be difficult to continue to push the limits of your weekly volume.



3) Sharpening – Here is where you ramp up the intensity of your workouts. Many fit athletes will want to drop the hill and rep training in favor of V02max intervals. I still recommend keeping the tempo run and the long run, however, the long run will likely be cut back several miles and the weekly training volume will drop in order to allow the body to recover from this more intense training. Also keep in mind that any races you do will have to replace a workout. Longer races should replace tempo runs and shorter races will replace intervals. Also, don’t be afraid to occasionally run a hill workout or some repetitions on the track….or even mix them into a workout.



This part of training will be intense, but keep yourself in check. You want the workouts to be hard, but there’s no reason to force yourself to recover the rest of the week for one workout. I previously recommended 6-8K for interval workouts but even that may be too much for some slower people. You should end most of these workouts feeling like you could have done a few more. It’s always better to walk away thinking you should have done one more than wishing you had done one less. Always keep the big picture in mind. If the workout really was too easy, you can make up for it later.



ACCOUNTING FOR INDIVIDUALITY:



Here I simply want to cover a few different cases and maybe you can figure out where you fit.





The Typical Fit 5k, 10K, Sprint, Olympic guy:



This guy has been running for at least a few years. He can run a 5K in under 22 minutes and has no problem running 12 miles for a long run and getting in 40 mpw only running or 25-30 mpw while triathlon training.



This guy will spend about 2 ˝ months in his base phase. After 4 weeks he’ll add in a 20 minute tempo run. He’ll then spend about 4 weeks in transition adding in 8x200 with 200 jog and build to 12x200 at the end of 4 weeks. His tempo run has climbed to 30 minutes during this phase. He then spends the next 2 months running 5-7x1000 with 400 jog starting at about 5k race pace and then slowly getting a little faster on each interval. He throws in the occasional race and continues to do his tempo runs. His long runs have been cut back from 12 miles to 8-10 miles. On race weekends he may only run 5 miles the following day. He’ll taper the last week and a half and then run his goal race.

EDIT: The tempo run is 4 weeks into the base period. The 200's occur AFTER 2 1/2 month base period.



The Fit Marathoner:



This guy has run a few marathons in the past. He hopes to qualify for Boston this year. He’s done 18 mile long runs in the past and has run as much as 50-60 mpw. He is putting his triathlon training on hold for the time being.



He will spend 3 ˝ months in his base phase. His goal is to build his mileage to 60+ mpw and reach an 18 mile long run at the end of this phase. After 2 months he adds in a 20-40 minute tempo run every other week. On the in between weeks he’ll do a second long run of about 12-13 miles. Over the 2 months he adds in a hill workout every other week and an interval session of about 4K @ 5K race pace.



Since his goal is a marathon, his priorities were high mileage and long runs. His secondary goal was tempo training and finally a little bit of hill and interval training.





The “Recreational” Triathlete (sprint, Oly):



This guy is limited on time and ambition. He wants to do the best he can with what he’s got time to work with. He typically runs 15 miles a week.



This guy may want to introduce some training blocks in the early season where he can spend a couple of weeks focusing on one discipline. His goals are to build up his long run and tempo run during the base phase. Into transition he will likely want to occasionally mix his workouts so that he does some 200’s at the end of his tempo run or do a tempo run at the end of his long run. His sharpening phase will need to be pretty short, maybe only 3 weeks. At this point he may not want to run more than 4-5k of intervals.





The Marathon Finisher:



He wants to see if he can run the whole thing.



This guy may never go beyond the base phase. While the fit marathoner may want to hit his peak mileage 3 months before his race, this guy will likely shoot to hit peak mileage only 3 weeks before his peak race. His longest run will occur at the end of that week. He does 20 minute tempo runs once every other week.





The 800 meter specialist:



I’m only including this for comparison. This guy will actually do his repetition training in the sharpening phase and it will be very very “throw up and the end of the workout” intense. He will also spend a lot of time working on plyometrics and technique drills. He may even spend some time in the weight room. His goal is to train his body to run well under 4:00/mile pace for less than 2 minutes.





Anyway, I hope that this at the very least generates a discussion about training (something that we can always use more of). Please respond with your input.



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Last edited by: BarryP: Oct 25, 06 8:26
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thanks for the new updates! just printed it :)

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Just want to add my thanks for all your posts on this. Very helpful!
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As always,

excellent stuff. Thanks!
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Re: Elements of a Solid Running Plan – Putting them together [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Nice post. I'm curious about a philosophical difference here, though.

The type of plan you've presented is Friel-esque, in that once you hit what you're calling the transition phase your volume will begin to plateau or decrease as intensity is added. This would take 6-8 weeks prior to the target race.

However, a lot of the ST'ers plans I've seen posted have your last "big week" (highest volume) 3-4 weeks out from the A-race, with the taper beginning shortly thereafter. Maybe this latter style is more appropriate for an IM type training plan only?

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However, a lot of the ST'ers plans I've seen posted have your last "big week" (highest volume) 3-4 weeks out from the A-race, with the taper beginning shortly thereafter. Maybe this latter style is more appropriate for an IM type training plan only?
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Yes, I tried to cover that under "marathon finisher." I don't know if "finisher" is the best term to use, but it is supposed to represent someone whose "endurance" is still a major limiter for the race distance. For some people this may even be the case for an HM or even an Oly.

So, under my model, most Ironman athletes will never get out of the base phase regarding their running. However, someone like The Sergio may actualy make it to the transition phase and do that for 6 weeks. Now, lets say next year he want to run a marathon. He'll probably make it all the way into the sharpening phase and do it for 8 weeks. Now, lets say the following year he wants to shoot for a PR in a sprint tri. He may extend the transition phase out so that he is doing hills and 200s 4 months before his key race.

So, in general, the longer your race is relative to what YOU can handle, the longer and longer your base phase will be and the shorter and shorter your sharpening phase will be. Eventualy you will run a race long enough that there will be NO sharpening phase......at least not in terms of doing significant amounts of V02max interval training. For some people that will be a 10 mile race. For others it may be a double Ironman.

Make sense?

Take myself for example. In college training for 5ks, my sharpening phase was about 8 weeks. Now days I cut it back to 6 weeks (I have about 80% o fthe base I had in college). However, when I trained for my first IM this year, I didn't do ANY running faster than "steady" except for the ocassional monster brick where I'd end with a 20 minute tempo run.

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Good stuff there, Barry.

For a slightly different take on the fit marathoner (and indeed fit IM triathlete), though, I'd suggest phases as follows:

1) Build resiliency/economy through LSD built through frequency of runs up to 60 mins, and then one long run built to 90-120mins. Once that is done, move on.
2) Building aerobic efficiency through 1/2IM tempo work (mileage stays plateaued at top level of base. Max tempo duration might be 2 x 40mins/week). I'd stay here for the bulk of non-specific training.
3) Specific race prep (starting 20 weeks out) of long runs of up to 2.5hrs or 20 miles every other week (tempo duration stays plateaued at top level of phase 2)
4) Sharpening (six weeks out) by dropping long run duration gradually but adding in continuous hills/5K pace speedwork as you suggest (this phase includes taper).

I think there is merit to not maxing out the long run mileage too far out, simply because I think the general aerobic benefits are more useful if you plan to 'race' a marathon or IM.


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"My point is that the addition of a missing element may be the next big step that will lead to improvement in your running."

Exactly. I find that unless, after a few months of building my base mind you, I throw in 4-8 weeks of sharpening (mostly tempo runs, interval runs, hill repeats, and strides - 1 to 2x week), I get slower and slower and slower. I like to do 1-3 months of steady push-the-distance running, then 4-8 weeks of sharpening, and repeat.

When training for IMWA, I added strides and intervals to my run training during my build, and it made a HUGE difference.

Thanks again for the great posts.

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Thanks for the post. Good stuff as always :)

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You should put this on the slowtwitch wiki page for reference...that way newcomers can be directed that way perhaps.....
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I think it looks pretty good. You presented it pretty well. Thanks.

I find the tempo work interesting. A little slower than I usualy do, but probably more appropriate for an IMer.

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Thanks.

The tempo work I suggest is an adaptation of the 'sweet spot' sub-FT aerobic conditioning that you'll find discussed in many threads about bike training (particularly on Gordoworld as was). It's an idea championed by among others the good Dr Coggan, and revolves as I see it around the idea that efforts slightly easier than 60-min best-effort pace (which is 10-mile run effort for me) are a more effective use of time than efforts just above FT (which is where traditional running tempo work is done) because:

1) It's significantly easier to recover from sessions that don't produce 'excess' lactic acid (sub FT) than those that do (supra FT), and as a result the sessions can de done safely with greater frequency.
2) Within session the aerobic benefit is largely the same for both, but the sub-FT level work can be continued for a little longer (in terms of time and actual distance covered) offering a greater training benefit.
3) For the marathon it's also (happily) more race-specific than 10K pace.

For me 10-5K supra-threshold effort work happens in red-line fartleks/continual hills sessions as a form of extended speedwork.


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Good stuff. I'm the fit marathoner who is taking some time off from triathlon. I'm just wondering how long the entire training phase lasts. You mention 3.5 months of base and you also mention throwing in some hill and interval work. How long should it be from your start of base work until your A race? Right now I'm thinking about Grandma's in June. I'm running about 60 miles/week right now and plan to use the Pfitz 24 or 18 week plan for 70 miles/week. I guess I'm just wondering if it's too early to be running 60 mile weeks. Or will 3-4 months of this allow me to transition well into the Pfitz plan?

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6 months is usualy the time frame I shoot for (though it was 8 months for my IM). IMO, your goal is to hit the beginning of that 24 week plan fresh and rested. It all depends, but you may want to hold 60 for the next several weeks and then take it down over the holidays so that you can come into January ready to start your program.

Just as an example, my friend ran 85 miles a week for several months before he started his marathon program. However, his marathon program put him up to 120 mpw. He is in really great shape and can handle that. So, for him, 85 mpw WAS fresh and rested. For you it may be 60....or 45, etc.

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Barry, I have cut and pasted your series into a single document and have already read and reread it several! Great stuff! One question and maybe this will be the 5th installment; the taper. During the sharpening phase you reference a certain number of weeks out from race date, does that take into account the taper (more specific to a marathon). What is your recommended taper? # of weeks, step down of volume, when to stop intensity, etc.

Thank you,

Tamela
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My college coach (who gets is info from a vast community of other college coaches) likes the 10 day taper for 3k-20K races. This should also cover up to at least the OLY and *probably* the HIM. For marathons I undersatnd that at least 2 weeks and as long as 3 weeks is ideal.

Typicaly you want to cut your mileage down to allow yourself to recover. You can maintain some intensoty, but I like to see it as nothing more than....say......300 meter repeats at goal race pace.....just enough to get the body used to the feeling but not so much that it will take time to recover from.

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