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What's the over/under on it being canceled because of E Coli? They posted the following on their FB page:

Hey Michael -- stay tuned to your inbox. You'll be receiving more info about our decision later this evening. Thanks!

Place your bets because of the rain!

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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weather.com shows only a 20% chance of rain tomorrow morning.
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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Just out....

Your safety is our number one priority. Due to recent rainfall, the team at Life Time Tri CapTex has been closely monitoring the water quality of Lady Bird Lake (Town Lake). After significant consideration and consultation, the team has decided to continue with the swim portion of the race.

Following City of Austin guidelines, Life Time Tri CapTex will place signage along the course advising swimmers to use caution. This is the city's recommended protocol after receiving 1 inch of rain within 72 hours on an event.

While there is no data to suggest the swim portion of the event should be canceled, we will be creating a non-swim wave for those who do not wish to participate in the swim. The non-swim waves will begin after the last swimmer of each distance exits the water, and will be a bike-run only format. Non-swim athletes must report to the Life Time Tri tents in each distance's transition area, near swim entrance to transition, and we will be starting those athletes in a time trial format. The non-swim athletes will not be eligible for awards.

Please continue to monitor the Life Time Tri CapTex Facebook page for further updates.
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Re: Captex swim? [Salmon Steve] [ In reply to ]
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Good Luck to everyone racing tomorrow. I live here in Austin and know the issues first hand with those waters and I'm sorry to say they are asking for trouble by continuing with the swim tomorrow. Anyone with a weak or compromised immune system should stay far away from that water.


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Re: Captex swim? [Salmon Steve] [ In reply to ]
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Life Time Tri's decision making is not confidence building. If it takes "significant consideration and consultation" about safety that certainly indicates a significant amount of doubt about the actual safety of swimming in Lady Bird Lake. Erecting "caution signage" I think only makes matters worse. How exactly does one swim "cautiously" in a race? If one takes a gulp or two of water, what then - swim immediately to shore? Are there penalties for "incautious" swimming? The holding of a separate option for a non-swim race, but which is not open to awards, only highlights the confused thinking going on with the race directors. It's simple guys - it's either safe or not. Which is it?
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Re: Captex swim? [DaveyHoy] [ In reply to ]
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DaveyHoy wrote:
Life Time Tri's decision making is not confidence building. If it takes "significant consideration and consultation" about safety that certainly indicates a significant amount of doubt about the actual safety of swimming in Lady Bird Lake. Erecting "caution signage" I think only makes matters worse. How exactly does one swim "cautiously" in a race? If one takes a gulp or two of water, what then - swim immediately to shore? Are there penalties for "incautious" swimming? The holding of a separate option for a non-swim race, but which is not open to awards, only highlights the confused thinking going on with the race directors. It's simple guys - it's either safe or not. Which is it?

Safe. Did you read the posting above?

Following City of Austin guidelines, Life Time Tri CapTex will place signage along the course advising swimmers to use caution. This is the city's recommended protocol after receiving 1 inch of rain within 72 hours on an event.

While there is no data to suggest the swim portion of the event should be canceled, we will be creating a non-swim wave for those who do not wish to participate in the swim. The non-swim waves will begin after the last swimmer of each distance exits the water, and will be a bike-run only format. Non-swim athletes must report to the Life Time Tri tents in each distance's transition area, near swim entrance to transition, and we will be starting those athletes in a time trial format. The non-swim athletes will not be eligible for awards.


The race staff is simply taking extra precautions and due diligence in alerting people to use caution. Interpret that however you must for your race. kind of like a wet (road) course from rain and a big descent and they put up signs..."Slow, use caution". You can go fast if you want, but at your own risk.

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Re: Captex swim? [irontri] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, I did read the post. There is a significant difference between negative and affirmative statements. Compare " there is no data to suggest the swim portion should be cancelled" to " the water quality is safe and there is no danger of water borne illness." Moreover, the phrase "no data" suggests that they do not have actual water samples. That should be concerning.

Gotta disagree on how to swim cautiously in water with a high bacteria content. How strong is one's immune system? That's a lot different from knowing when to go slower and brake on a bike.

This is my view. I'm entered in the race but will pass on the swim. Just not worth it to me. There are more races on the calendar and I'd rather stay healthy to race another day.
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Re: Captex swim? [irontri] [ In reply to ]
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The most recent comment on the Captex Tri FB by Life Time confirms that they did not base their decision on actual water samples, but on some of the City of Austin's historical data. Interestingly, historical LCRA (Lower Colorado River Authority) water quality data from samples collected beneath the Lamar Street bridge, as well as an older USGS report, shows that total coliform and e. coli densities increased after stormwater runoff events. Seeing as how Shoal Creek discharges right into the swim course, I'm not confident about the water quality.

Btw, the comment is actually buried at the end of the thread of about the water temperature.
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Re: Captex swim? [irontri] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not racing there today. However, I don't have a problem with this decision. If it's cold, hot, windy, wet, dirty water, etc., it doesn't bother me to have the race director say, "Use caution but we're going ahead with the race. If you're not comfortable with this decision, here's your bailout option". People put in a lot of time and money to get to a race. This decision beats the heck out of the decision to cancel the USAT race in KC back in 2005 on the morning of the race.

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Re: Captex swim? [AustinDuDude] [ In reply to ]
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 I grew up in and around Austin. Other than canoeing, I can't recall a race in that lake in the 80's and early 90's. IDK maybe it is cleaner now but certainly not with the runoff from the Hillcountry. It was a great race when it was on loop 360. Doubt they could get 3k people on that course.



AustinDuDude wrote:
Good Luck to everyone racing tomorrow. I live here in Austin and know the issues first hand with those waters and I'm sorry to say they are asking for trouble by continuing with the swim tomorrow. Anyone with a weak or compromised immune system should stay far away from that water.
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Re: Captex swim? [DaveyHoy] [ In reply to ]
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DaveyHoy wrote:
" the water quality is safe and there is no danger of water borne illness."

Not sure with the amount of plaintiffs attorneys in the US you would ever get this type of affirmative statement.
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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone else having gut rot? Not sure if it was the swim or something I ate, but it started right at 48 hours post-Captex.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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fartleker wrote:
Anyone else having gut rot? Not sure if it was the swim or something I ate, but it started right at 48 hours post-Captex.

That sucks. Well within the incubation period for e. coli. Watch your urine, if it starts getting dark/tea colored and low in quantity, you may have kidney problems from it.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Not here and I even swam twice. Maybe it will pass.
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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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fartleker wrote:
Anyone else having gut rot? Not sure if it was the swim or something I ate, but it started right at 48 hours post-Captex.

No to your question.

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Re: Captex swim? [ajthomas] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, thanks for the responses.

Not yet. Will probably go through Hyvee as an amateur and take the card after that.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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I work with someone who did it, and he told me as soon as he transitioned from the bike he had to go....bad...about 4-6 times during the run. He hasnt stopped using the bathroom since, and he calls it the beaver fever.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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fartleker wrote:
Anyone else having gut rot? Not sure if it was the swim or something I ate, but it started right at 48 hours post-Captex.

Nope, everything's normal, and I've been paying very close attention. I also tend to swallow more than I should, so I was worried.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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I am sick today :( I am assuming from the water? But maybe not.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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I have three friends who just did CAPTEX and they are all fine and back to training with no complaints.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Yes. Bad. Started last night. For once I don't think it is something I ate. I don't know if it was the swim but it was certainly something.

Also, my dog got sick and the vet thinks it is from licking my skin after the swim. I didn't sweat it off like I normally would have. She said that she always sees a rush of dogs come in with GI issues right after a big rain if they get anywhere near town lake and that the water is often bad enough that simply licking my skin after swimming would have been enough to make a little dog sick.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Nope. I did the race and I have had no problems.
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So any health updates from people who raced ?

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Re: Captex swim? [Salmon Steve] [ In reply to ]
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Read up just a bit. :)

Most are fine. Lauren Goss, Duckie, and I all have something going on. Mine is a bad case of gut rot. Not sure how long it'll last but it's definitely putting me on the sidelines right now.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah Sam has come down with a sore throat - feeling shit. Just wondered if it could be related so dug the thread up....
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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Town Lake might be off the hook for me and my dog. While the timing is right and I did end up swallowing water on the swim, when I got home from the vet this evening, there was a notice that the campgrounds water supply is contaminated. I believe it is a well and not city water, but I am not sure. Either way, my dog spent the night at the emergency vet and I am dealing with the worst lower GI issues I can recall...ever.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, did you take anything? I did Captex and about 3 days later got the shits and still have them. I feel like I went to Mexico for week and ate and drank the water. I ve been ramping up for IM Couer De Alane and its nots fun having to stop riding and running to find some bushes :)



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Re: Captex swim? [dhyoung9] [ In reply to ]
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Nope. They've pretty much gone away on their own for me.

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Re: Captex swim? [fartleker] [ In reply to ]
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Only problem I had at CapTex was a horrible swim ;) No stomach problems or anything of that nature.

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