there is already the starbike weight weenie database which catalog tons of frames and parts. I would just head over there

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I did not know about that database, but it looks like there are not many tri bikes in there... I checked for Spec, Trek, Orbea and Look and none of their tri frames were there.... But it looks great for a lot of components!

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Yeah i searched a few months ago. Very few tri bikes listed. Even some of the main stream tri bikes are absent.

add yours!

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With or without the 4 water bottles????

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Answer: Too much. P3 with Bonti bars, SMP saddle and a middle-age bulge. 19.5 lbs. before flat kit and bottles. Just added a Quarq so probably even more now....

The weight I posted was without water bottles or flat kit.

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In fact, the last road frame on that list is from 2009. It's horribly outdated. I know the forums there are active, and I wonder why the listings aren't updated any more?

How heavy is the engine?
More importantly, how strong is the engine?

If the answers to these two questions indicate a fairly positive response then the bike weight doesn't really matter much.


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Just swaped out my cockpit and seat last week to upgrade. Put race wheels on this morning and couldn't resist the temptation to weigh it. I know weight is a minor consideration on a TT bike but I can't help myself.

2011 Jamis Xenith T
SRAM Force components
Profile Design CX3 cockpit (purchased on ST classified!)
Profile Design Altair 80 wheelset
Bontrager Team TT saddle

Weight: 18.34 pounds

Aerodynamics are much more important. This is an issue that has been beat to death. Weight becomes more relevant for the billie goats......

Thanks for posting your data! So far we have 3 data points: 20.5, 19.5, 18.34 - so far mine's the heaviest but even on a tough climb I don't think I could blame the 2 pound difference if you beat me. When I upgrade wheels and tires maybe I can come down 0.5 to 1 lb while also getting more aero.

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Scott Plasma 2 with race wheels, H3 and a Ren disc 17.46 pounds. Campy drive train and a Quarq.

As others have mentioned its the aerodynamics that count.

Two More data points, as shown.

Small Trek Speed Concept: 17.1 pounds
Small Scott Plasma: 17.9 pounds

Parlee TT XL/Tall Frame
SRAM Red
3T Brezza LTD Bars
Zipp Vuma Chrono Crank
Zipp 808 wheels (Clydesdales)

Weight 17.1

Weight has probably changed because I have swapped out the crank for a SRAM Red Quarq.

Funny my Parlee XL frame weighs the same as Speed Concept Small.

It's a peculiar site. I tried to add my Look 586 in 2006. Went through the steps several times. It never made it to the list. Don't visit the site much anymore.

Who cares? It's still fun to see what people's bikes weigh out of curiosity.

Trek Speed Concept 7.0 (Large)
SRAM components
Zipp 808 FC Carbon Clincher wheels

8.4 kg / 18.51 lbs

I would think it is a combination of your weight and the bike's weight that would affect your hill climbing. Losing 1.5lbs on your body, would in theory drop 1.5lbs from your total bike/body weight when climbing. Same weight loss if your stripped 1.5lbs from your bike. Other thoughts?

Imagine what it would cost to drop 1.5lbs from your bike. And my body weight fluctuates more than that on an average day.

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2006 cervelo p3c size 48 16 lbs
1992 Cat Chhetah traditional fork size 48 16 lbs
1992 Cat Cheetah Xfork Di2 size 48 15 lbs

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2007 Cannondale Ironman Six13 Slice --size 58cm
Syntace C3 and Stratos CX carbon bars
Zipp R2C
Shimano Ultegra front and back gears and brakes
Cannondale SI SL crankset with Time Iclic pedals and SRAM chain
Cobb saddle with Profile FF Carbon seat post
18.9lbs
Mavic SSC Kyrsium wheels

add for waterbottle cages, Wedgie

2012 S-Works Shiv (small)SRAM Red
SRM
Cobb V-Force
Hawk Racing BB
Hawk Racing 85mm Carbon Clincher

No water or flat kit (bladder installed)

Weight: 17.94 pounds

I call bulshit! (In the nicest way possible) I have a 7.5 and there is no way its under 20.

My MTB friends think it's light, and that's good enough for me.

Hi Ed. Welcome to hell :)

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Hell being slowtwitch or triathlon obsession? I guess this post combined with my screen name gave me away pretty clearly....

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2012 P2C size 58 20.1 lbs or 9.20 Kilo

All stock with the following adds/changes

Adamo Race 2
Dark Speed Works ,,,,, love this thing!!!
X-Lab water bottle holders x2 including the small bike bag
Carbon water bottle cage on Down Tube
Profile design computer/watch mount

ETA
Suunto Speed Sensor & Cadence Sensor

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How about 'dropping weight from your bike and dropping weight from your body can both be done utterly independent of one another'? You made it sound as if you gotta choose between the two... Why not drop all 3lbs in this example?

Imagine what it would cost to drop 1.5lbs from your bike.

According to Velo magazine about -$800. ;-). Or at least that was the differenece between two road bikes they recently tested. The cheaper bike was about 1.5 pounds lighter.

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That information was from last summer so I weighed it again this evening. It's still 8.4kg. By the time I've taken a few centimeters off the steerer tube, fitted the new pedals; I changed system over the winter, and fitted the Omega brake when it arrives, It'll drop another 100g or so.

I'd take yours back to the shop and ask for a lighter one. In the nicest way possible of course;-)

Well, I have a new medium SC 7.2 and it weighs in at approx 18.6 lbs based on my bathroom scale. Swapped the aero bars and base bar for a full zipp setup I bought in a weak moment a few years ago (blew my bike frugality creds for that year!), and swapped the wheels for some Rolf Vigors. Includes one bottle cage (I do long rides on the road bike and no long course racing, so one is enough). Swapped saddle for a Cobb V-flow but that added weight. Otherwise, stock Sram stuff that came with it. No draft box, bento box, rear bottle cages, etc. etc.; people add all that stuff and wonder why they don't have a light bike.

Of course when I get my Flo 60 race wheels I'll be adding almost 400 grams so that will bring it back up way over 19 pounds.

It goes up the hills much better than my old P2K (not that the 10 lbs I lost over the winter has anything to do with that, lol).

Slowtwitch. I remember before I knew about this place, way back when I had free time...


Yup :). Go ride!

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P3 Al
Vision base bar
Deda aerobar (soon to be vision ski bend)
404 clinchers with wheelcover.
Adamo Race

Never been weighed, but it's less than my SoftRide Rocket TT with H3s.
It's fast enough, even on hilly triathlons.

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Take everything I say with a grain of salt. I know nothing.

The weight of mine is just right.Not to heavy nor light.i love it.

2007 P3C
Sram Red
Zipp Vuma Quad Crank
Zipp SL145 Stem
Zipp Vuka Bull / Extensions
Zipp 808 tubular
Adamo Road

17.1 lbs

2009 P2c Ultegra 51cm
2011 Zipp 808 FC Clinchers
Adamo saddle
Dura Ace SPD-SL Pedals
Xlab carbon wing

20.1 lbs.

P3C with SRAM red build ~18lbs with ultegra pedals and 1 cage.

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Pinarello FT1 53cm

Mix of DA and Ultegra
Felt Devox cockpit
HED Jet 6/9 wheels

weighs in at 9.2kg or 20.3lbs according to bathroom scales

plus 75kg of engine

Yaqui Mariola
Bike components from the 90s
no base bar
Front Flashpoint 60, rear PT with cover

23 pounds

Chad

Kuota kueen-K Hellby edition 16,3
Speed concept upgraded 9 series 18,5

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Qroo lucero lite
Cobra base and aero bars
Dura ace 7800
Kforce lite cranks
Look carbon keos
Zero g brake set
Real design ultra 40mm wheels
Was 14.9 lbs before crash now a trainer bike because top tube is cracked. That weight is from adding up all componants seperartly


2012 Blue Triad black ops
7800 front and rear ders
Zipp teturn to center shifters
Jagwire
Sub 9
1080
Both zipp tangiente tires
Adamo
Look keo classic pedal
FSA Neo pro 170 cranks and tt rings
19 lbs. Spot on race ready on bike shops digital scale.
Recently got new custon carbon chainrings so probably around 1/2 lbs lighter with that. And another half lbs. with training wheels on.

2009 Fuji roabaix
mavic open pros
fizik airone saddle
105 components
5 pieces of plywood to fill in the gaps of my bike for a more aero look

I would have to say 45 lbs.

2011 P2C 56
Zipp 404FC Tubs
Carbon Disc Cover
Dura Ace
SRAM Quarq Compact
Cobb Max
PD base bar and ZBS extensions

7.9kg/17.4lbs

Just weighed it.

with training wheels: 19.2
with racing wheels: 18.0

P3C (51)
Stinger 60/90 (Vittoria Corsa EVO CX) *training wheels are Mavic Ksyrium Elites with Conti Gatorskins
FSA SRM wireless crank
Adamo Prologue
Ritchey Adjustable Stem
Profile Design CX3 bars
SRAM R2C shifters
SRAM Red (brake levers, front/rear derailleur)
Zero Gravity Negative-G Ti brakes
Ultegra 11-25
SRAM OG-1070 chain
Jagwire housing/cables
CeeGees pads
Fizik Microtex tape
Arundel carbon cage (no bottle)
Cycleops Joule 2.0 headunit
Speedplay Zero Stainless pedals
Profile Design computer mount
Ti skewers

...that is all I think

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with me on it? not saying.
with me off, about 18lbs

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Qroo CD0.1 - large
Vision carbon cockpit
SRAM RED all except shifter (tt500)
American classic clincher 58's
19.45 lbs

To be truly useful, you'd want to have people weigh their bikes "as racked" at a race.

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WAY LESS EXPENSIVE TOO!!! Unless you can't lose any more weight, then it's your bike

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2012 Felt B12 frameset
Zipp 808/404 carbon / Alum clinchers
ISM adamo road saddle
Zipp vuka bar system, carbon vuka clips
temporary (heavy) alum stem
SRAM force components
TT900 carbon shifters
TT900 carbon brake levers
Speedplay zero's
no cages or bottles included

18.75 lbs,

Bike that no one has:
Devinci Leo T2 Frame Leo TT FORK Carbon Aero Der Rear Shimano Ultegra 6600 FRONT Shimano 105 5600 Crank FSA Team Issue Mega Exo 53/39T FRONT SHIFTER Shimano Dura-Ace BS78 Rear SHIFTER Shimano Dura-Ace BS78 CASSETTEShimano 105 5600 10s 12-25T CHANE 5600 Shimano 105 WHEELS Xero XR-1 TIRES Maxxis Xenith Hors Category 700x23C 120tpi BRAKE FSA Gossamer STEM Vision Sizemore OE HANDLEBAR Vision Aerodynamic / TT Clip-on + FM Custom EVA Heat moldable pads
SADDLE Custom FM Heat modable EVA
SEATPOST Devinci aero carbon 76 & 78

Weight = Just under 18 lbs


Pinarello FP1 Stock = 20 lbs


Rocky Mountain Hybrid RC10 a whopping 36 lbs - winter and off-road beater.

Used a fishing scale.

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take off those crank aero covers and you'll weigh even less.

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Yes, that would be true. I am hoping that the total weight of 30 grams for the covers do not weight me down too much..... ;o)

Kuota Khaliber (M) with Bora Ultra wheelset: 18.1 lbs.

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Fuji D-6 18.3 lbs
Sram Red
PD CX1.5 Bars
Shitty Tektro R725 brakes
Ditched the rear Xlab mount

Chances are we could all lose a few lbs of body fat. Ride more, pay less.

Medium Trek Speed Concept 9.9
SRAM Red build
100/10 stem
Tririg clamps +1 stock spacer per side
new-style cba bontrager xxx levers
Zipp R2C shifters
TT Chainring
Force FD
Ceramic BB bearings
Zipp 808 Firecrest Tubular Front, 23c Tangente Tire
Zipp Sub9 Powertap Tubular Disc, 23c Tangente Tire
Garmin Edge 500
Profile waterbottle mount between the extensions
Bontrager Speed Bottle and mount
Draft Box
Dark Speed Works Speedpack (Training or HIM distance+)
18.8 lbs

Though not a tri bike, my 2012 Trek Madone 4.7 is 19 lbs.




Ultegra components, cassette 105
Bontrager Race wheels and carbon seatpost
It does an excellent job soaking up most of the bumps in the road (compared to aluminum).
After using an aluminum Giant TCX cross bike for commuting, riding this Madone feels like I've got nothing underneath me.
I chose this one not only for the components and price point, but, for the color scheme (more visible in traffic).

Mine weighed in a hair under 20 lbs on my walmart bathroom scale.

56cm Plasma 2
Dura Ace
Sora crank at the moment as I'm experimenting with crank length
Speedplay Zeros stainless steel
3T Mistreal
Adamo Road
Shimano RS-10 wheels w/ Michelin Krylions

With race wheels/tires and a decent crank I think it would be around 19 or 19.5 lbs.

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I can only afford to run one nice bike, so it's not a TT machine, but a Specialized SL4 Sworks.

A shade over 13lbs for normal road use, and bang on 14lbs with aerobars for triathlons. (Wheels are Mavic Carbone Ultimate, so they are happy in both disciplines, light and reasonably aero).

Needless to say, I prefer hilly courses.....!

This is like a what is your avg speed thread...
It doesn't really matter about the bike....
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I think I did an unofficial weighing of mine once and came up with 23 lbs, however, it's gotten a lot faster for me when I dropped about 35 lbs. My bike now weighs -12 lbs.

Softride Rocket- 20.5 lbs

Sub 14lbs.

Glen, great crank cover and fairing. Off weight topic question regarding your power meter set up. You may have changed your set up but I had seen a pic of your set up and it looked like you had your cyclops shark fin hooked up to an ant+ transmitter. Is that the case? Can you describe how you did that with perhaps a parts source list if it is not too much trouble? I have a few wired power tap wheels that I would like to use on another bike WITHOUT external cabling and preferably ant+ to hook w my garmin and I would like to avoid the expense of buying new hubs. Thanks and feel free to pm me as this question is not thread specific. CL

Hello RowToTri and All,

18.5

P3C 54 with SRM - Ventus Bar - Rotor rings - Zipp 404 Front - Zip 1080 Rear

Ti Speedplay pedals with aluminum butterfiles.

Titanium or Aluminum fastners throughout where appropriate.

Full flat kit with Ti wrench and tire tools - spare latex tube and patches - 2 Co2 Carts - small can of pressurized sealant.

No water bottles (except flat kit).







Note View-Speed.com aero front and rear titanium skewer at about 19 grams rear and a bit less for the front.

Small individual weight and aero savings here and there add up for a lighter and faster bike.

Cheers,

Neal

+1 mph Faster

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10' Kestrel Dura-ace, carbon cranks, fork, brakes, etc... 58cm
21 phat pounds.

2011 Trek SC 9.9
Hed Jet 90 C2/Hed Jet Disc
Vittoria Evo corsa with latex tubes
SRAM RED

21.1 pounds :(

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Cervelo P5. 20.0 pounds exactly, according to my bathroom scale (computed based on me with and without the bike)

Size 56 P5 frame + Aduro bar with no spacers.
2012 Zipp 808 Firecrest Carbon Clincher front
2011 Zipp Hed Jet Disc with Powertap Pro+ rear
Adamo Racing 2 saddle
Shimano Dura Ace 7900 shifters, front and rear derailleur, 11-28 cassette, and pedals
Rotor 165mm 3D+ crank with Rotor 53/39 chainrings.
Carbon water bottle cage
22m Bontrager R4 tires with latex tubes pumped to 110 PSI
Bottle and computer in picture NOT included when weighed.

I could drop over half a pound from the rear wheel by going with a 2012 Hed Jet disc FR + Powertap G3. Not clear it's worth the $$$ though.

2011 Felt B10. Stock with the following additions:

with a heavier Profile Design tri stryke saddle (310g)
X-lab aero cage (29g)
torhans mount up front (no bottle) not sure of weight, probably 50-60g with zip ties
Pedals: Look Keo max 2 (260g)
garmin edge 500 mount- but no garmin

so that's about 1.5lbs of extra stuff. the stock seat was lighter, so maybe 1.2lbs.

20.7 lbs

the TTR3 wheels are pretty heavy. I weighed the rear, without skewer or cassette and it was 1070 g.
Just built up a Powertap SL+ on a Kinlin XR 380 (38mm aluminum clincher which is 565g in the rim alone), with Sapim CX-rays and it came out at 1110g. Only 40g more.

Felt B10 with the follow additions
Zipp 404 tubular
Ultegra pedals
Sram red quarq
18.43 #

My weight scale says 180lbs, and 200lbs when I'm holding the bike. :-D

So I guess 20lbs roughly.

Specialized Shiv 2012
SRAM Red
SRAM S60 front SRAM S80 back

18.43- Nice!
A set of Zipp 404 tubulars are about 1.7lbs less than the Felt TTR3's. that's huge- especially on wheels. -most of the difference right there,
all but 0.57lbs (260g). I'll bet the SRAM Red even with the quarq is probably lighter than the stock Vision Trimax cranks, so that buys you the rest.

Could probably save another pound with a different cockpit I expect, although the stock one is pretty aero.

maybe if I get rid of all those spacers and cut my headset tube down I'll save another 50g. ;)

2008 giant trinity alliance (large)

hed disk back and hed jet 90 front
ultegra build
hed aerobar
adamo saddle
race ready (2 co2 bottle, 1 spare clincher, 3 levers, and 2 empty water bottles)
cat-eye computer
look pedals

22.02lbs.

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2012 Cervelo P2 51cm
Zipp 404 Carbon/Alum Clinchers w/SL+ PowerTap
Selle Italia Saddle
Speedplay Zero
18.1lbs

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Forgot to add Adamo saddle and Shimano 7800 front brake and a Sram ceramic BB. I think thats it.

Scott Plasma Premium. Stock weight: 16.52lbs

I have 3T Brezza Bars on mine though, which might shave a few ounces here and there but I probably lost that with the Cobb saddle.

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2013 Shiv S-Works (Small)
- 2013 SRAM red components
- 2012 Zipp 808 FC Clinchers
- Pro Missile Evo Bars and Stem
- 2012 Quarq PM
- Gorilla Rear Cage
- Selle Italia SLR Superflow Saddle
- Bladder Not installed
- Durace Pedals
- Continental gp4000s tires

18.60 pounds... about a pound heavier than I expected :(

Wayyy too much, probably the 30 year old sachs-new success cranks

I love how some people on this forum know the weight of their skewers, and others used a bathroom scale to figure it out - interesting. Most people aren't posting sizes either, so I'm not sure how that affects your data and how useful it is. I ride a size 61 tarmac, but a short female (or male) riding a 44cm stock 650c carbon bike could come in with some crazy weight.

56 cm Argon 18, Aluminum - I think it was made in the mid-2000s.
Saddle bag w/flat kit
Syntace Aero Bars
Mavic Ksyrium wheels

21.0 pounds

You can easily drop a pound from the Shiv by swapping the stock wheels for some aero race wheels.

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I don't know how much my tri bike weighs but I do know I should cut off some of the excess seat post. It's massive on my Trek E9.

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We are right at 200 lbs. mated up.....176 as of my dump this morning + 23.xx bike = 200

58cm P3 alum
SRAM stuff
Adamo
No bottles or electronics
Zipp 900/Trispoke

sworks transition size large. sram RED, ZIPP Vuka, Zipp 404's. right around 18 lbs.

  
2010 Cannondale Slice Hi Mod --size 58cm
Syntace C3 and Stratos CX carbon bars
SRAM R2C
SRAM RED front and back gears and brakes
Cannondale SI SL crankset with Quarq powermeter, Time Iclic pedals and SRAM chain
Cobb Max saddle
Zipp 404 wheels with Mavic pro race 4 tires
17lbs 10 ounces



of course, one has to add for the waterbottle cages and what ever elese is put on.

2011 Cervelo P2 size 54
Rolf Prima TDF 58SL wheel set
Ultegra components
Fsa brakes
Alloy Vision aero bars
Fizik Arione Tri 2 saddle
Chris King ceramic bottom bracket
XLab torpedo with a carbon cage

17.2 pounds

 
Kestrel Airfoil 56cm
Syntace Stratos basebar and C2 extensions
DA components
Ergomo meter
"Heavy" Selle Italia seat and Look Style pedals
19.5 lbs with flat kit

My tri bike:

Kestrel 4000 LTD
Di2 R8090 11 spd (shifters on aero bars and lower handle bars (oh snap!))
Super Team carbon wheels
carbon aero bar setup
Shimano Ultegra groupset
Size: 57.5
Saddle: I switched the ISM saddle for Prologo.


w/ out pedals: 17.85 lbs

Damn, most of the bikes posted here are as light as my road bike (BMC SLR01 in 51).

I have an Orbea Ordu OMP (similar to M20 stock), weighs around 20.4 pounds.

2010 56 cm Cervelo P3
Zipp 404 front/900 disc (Specialized tubular turbo "Mountain All Around" tires)
Sram Red gruppo
3T Brezza II Limited bars
3T Team stem w/ti hardware
Zipp BTA w/Gorilla cages
Look Max Keo2 steel spindle pedals
Ti skewers
Joff 55 saddle

Total: 17.25 lbs race ready (same set up no matter what the distance..sprint through Ironman)

Andean 22.0lbs