God bless America.

Hand guns are illegal in Canada. Thank God.

This is a fantastic idea because I hear people are particularly good shots while riding a road or Tri bike, or when they've just gotten off of one and they're standing trying to aim in bike shoes with cleats still breathing hard from the ride.

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I carry a stun gun, I keep waiting for the safety to go off and schock my self while riding.

i have a concealed carry permit for my state and am (obviously) a huge supporter of the right to bear arms but I have never ever considered carrying while training. I once had an incident with some impatient dumbass (I was in a bike lane blocking him from cutting around someone who was slowing down to take a left) and he flipped out, coming up behind me, honking the horn, chucking me finger blah blah blah. I flagged down a cop. If you have time to dismount, unpack your gun, aim and shoot, you are going to get fried in a court of law because most likely, you had ample time to get away and not be forced to protect yourself with a firearm.

I'm moving to Canada ;-).

I live in GA and I don't carry when I'm riding or driving. I'm my 20+ years of driving, I can't think of any time when having one would have been beneficial.

I wish that everyone that ever said this, even jokingly, would have to. This opinion comes from a guy who spent 7 months in Baghdad defending the flag that some very ignorant people are eager to run from as soon as something doesn't go their way. Anyone who has ever said or typed this should be ashamed. You have no idea how good you have it here. You owe an apology to all these 1761 heroes:

http://icasualties.org/oif/Details.aspx

no Canadians by the way.

It was a joke, so please don't make of it anymore than what it was.

Please don't bother trying to dress me down when you obviously have no idea who I am or what I truly stand for. What if I were the type of person that has sent over countless CARE packages to the military over in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not to mention the moneys donated to the spouses of fallen soldiers.

Keep in mind what this is and we will all be better off. It is just a forum on that wonderful thing called the internet. Try not to be so sensitive-we all fall into that sometimes, and try to take what is said with a grain of salt.

BTW-For what it's worth, I greatly appreciate your service to our country.

I hope this doesn't turn into a hijacked totally OT thread, but your post was totally uncalled for! If you're looking to start fights about who loves the US and who doesn't who should live and who shouldn't then you need to jump over to the Lavendar Room.

Now for the subject at hand, never carried a hand gun, riding or otherwise, and likely never will.

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Dan Hollingsworth

Nobody grows old by merely living a number of years. People grow old only by deserting their ideals. Years may wrinkle the skin, but to give up interest wrinkles the soul." - Douglas MacArthur

you just don't understand...if you dare say anything vaguely suggesting that some other places may be better for something than the US, then you are against the US, and should move your cowardly french butt out of here... ;-)

guns? no thanks...and I live in Good ol' Texas!

I don't carry, but I once rode for a team that had the outline of a gun silk screened halfway out of the back pocket. It looked good from a distance. I have a friend who packs a .38 Taurus, and he hasn't had to use it with a motorist, but he did thwart a convenience store robbery in progress during one of his long rides.

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liquidblue,

I couldn't really tell if the concept of carrying a handgun while riding one's bike was for purely defensive purposes or for intimidation purposes.

I must admit that since I started carrying a shoulder ground to air missle and launcher while riding my bike, no one has dared to "mess" with me. It is actually pleasurable to stared down a soccer mom who doesn't think I belong on the road. They just don't have the "courage" anymore to make their thoughts known. They won't even try to brush me off the road with their minivans. Go figure.

I have gotten a few strange stares, though.

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Better to aspire to Greatness and fail, than to not challenge one's self at all, and succeed.

Sorry, handguns are entirely LEGAL in Canada, however, you must have a restricted weapons permit. They cannot be carried, concealed or not, other that from your house, to the trunk of your car, and to the range.

Hey, I'll be over in the morning to help you pack ;-)!

One of the many reasons I have for wanting to move to Canada (vancouver or victoria) someday. My grandpa was canadian, so it should be too hard to get in, right? :)

-Colin

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Any run that doesn't include pooping in someone's front yard is a win.

What the hell are you guys talking about?." By the time you dismount" Isn't that what those gunrests on the aerobars are for? Like a jet fighter aim the guns with the nose of the plane. Heck you can even use a two handed grip. Just watch the kick on the bigger heaters.

you mean, bike companies are thinking about releasing the B17 as a bike?
smart! ;-)

I must add my plug....

Vancouver and Victoria are the best places to live in the world (IMO).

Friendly people...incredible scenery...mild climate....mellow and laid back compared to big cities like Toronto...we have it all baby!

As for hand guns...no thanks.

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Funny thing, I was hanging out at the bike shop today and we had a similar conversation. I am a firm believer in the second amendment and the right of responsible people to bear arms. I carry a weapon with me just about at all times when I am off duty. Twice, carrying a firearm has saved my life. However, I thought about carrying a sidearm while riding, but I decided not to. I figured that it wouldn't be of any benefit. What threatens us most on the road are careless drivers, I don't see how a firearm will protect us from these people. Those drivers who are stupid enough to intentionally try and hurt a cyclist would more than likely just try to hit one of us with their car... again a firearm will do us no good here either.

I do carry on some of my trail runs in the Superstition Wilderness but thats a different situation.

Now, I live in a "right to carry" state, and can legally carry a firearm openly. There are times when I do carry "in the open" and have found that it can cause more problems than it will solve. There is a time and place, I just don't feel that cycling is that time or place. If you are given an oportunity to see my firearm, you are either a friend or have been stupid enough to do something that forced me to draw it. Carrying a firearm with the intent to intimidate or scare someone is not only stupid but criminal.

Be Smart, Be Ready, Be Safe!

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"The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten." - (John) Calvin Coolidge

This really is a no-brainer, and debating whether to carry a gun at any particular time is a deliberate distraction.
Guns should be carried, loaded with the 'safety' off at ALL times - no exceptions. ("Safety" - what a crock! There is nothing safe about a gun that you can't fire instantly!)
The first time you don't have it is sure to be when you need it. Having it in your jersey pocket is a waste as well. As correctly pointed out, by the time you have stopped and grabbed it, you are already dead meat. If you can't ride with it in your hand, practice 'till you can. If you still can't, get it mounted on your bars, fer Chrissakes. Otherwise you might as well paint a target on your back.
When will people learn that true safety (not to mention DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM) only exists when your finger rests on the trigger.
If your gun is out of reach, you pretty much deserve to be killed by the guy who kept his warm and close and useful.
If you are one of those cockroaches that doesn't like guns, you should never have been born, you low-life!

Have a nice day!

you're dumb.

I can only hope you are an anti-gun person trying to be sarcastic.

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"The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten." - (John) Calvin Coolidge

I believe Luis Herrera used to have tyo carry a gun in his pocket whilst training in Colombia.

A few Pro cyclists have been kidnapped out there - it's awful.