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Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all)
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PBN Team Member (Jordan Rapp), just recorded what is arguably one of the greatest comebacks in our sport. I don’t want to dwell on the negative, because as Jordan has said: "I was involved in a hit & run. I was hit. And now I'M the one running!". With that, this was Jordan on March 23, 2010….



& this is Jordan nearly 8-months to the day later…


Photo courtesy of Timothy Carlson

To say this is remarkable would be a gross understatement & it’s been absolutely amazing watching this unfold. HUGE accolades to Jordan & Jill & cheers to what’s going to be a truly meaningful Thanksgiving for them, their families & friends.

Now, onto the reason you opened this thread….the nitty-gritty on another meticulously executed race & nutritional plan. As we noted w/ Jordan’s IMAZ Nutrition Report 2009, he has a strategy which works for him & as such, very little adjustment need to be made assuming the conditions are relatively similar. As such, you’ll notice his intake strategy is nearly the same, with just some slight differences which can partially be attributed to the change from the on-course drink moving from Gatorade Endurance to PowerBar Perform.

Please drop a reply if you have any questions & we’ll aim to get back to you ASAP. Enjoy…

Ironman Arizona Triathlon – November 21, 2010
Race Totals: 8:16:45
Swim: 51:57
Bike: 4:22:38 (25.59 mph)
Run: 2:58:02 (6:47 per mile)
4th place professional male

Complete race results posted here.

BREAKFAST:

PRE-SWIM: (1) bottle w/ (2) EFS + (1) scoop PreRace & (1) SaltStick

SWIM TOTALS: 51:57 (25th o'all)

Bike Nutrition:

Photo courtesy of of Kerry Yndestad


Bike Nutrition Totals:

  • Calories: 1757 (403 per hour)
  • CHO: 434g (100 per hour)
  • Sugar: 217g (50 per hour)
  • Sodium: 5932mg (1361 per hour)
  • Potassium: 1981mg (454 per hour)
  • Magnesium: 910mg (209 per hour)
  • Caffeine: 140mg (32 per hour)
*For reference, Jordan raced at ~155LBS (Hourly Caloric Intake (Bike): 2.74 calories /LB per hour)

BIKE TOTALS: 4:22:38 - 25.59 mph

Run Nutrition:

Photo courtesy of of Kerry Yndestad


Run Nutrition Totals:

  • Calories: 1165* (394 per hour)
  • CHO: 297g (100 per hour)
  • Sugar: 216g (73 per hour)
  • Sodium: 5712mg (1930 per hour)
  • Potassium: 1604mg (542 per hour)
  • Magnesium: 383mg (129 per hour)
  • Caffeine: 103mg (35 per hour)
*The run was assuming ~1.5oz of PowerBar Perform & ~1.5oz of Coke consumed at each of (24) aid stations (~36oz total of each)

RUN TOTALS: 2:58:02 - 6:47 per mile

If you would like to schedule a 1/2 or Ironman specific Nutritional Evaluation, please e-mail Brian Shea today for availability & additional information (Brian@PersonalBestNutrition.com).

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I'm sorry Brian but I'm a bit confused. Did you post this for Jordan? Is this what you came up with for him or is this what he actually did (or both)?
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I'm sorry Brian but I'm a bit confused. Did you post this for Jordan? Is this what you came up with for him or is this what he actually did (or both)?

Jordan & I have been working together on his nutrition for MANY years. With that, we've now gotten to a point where very few edits are needed in each race as we've found a recipe that works for him (as you'll notice if you review the last few IM nutrition reports of his which we've posted). Think of it like you going to a local chef to come up w/ a very special Thanksgiving dish. You go back/forth w/ that chef a # of times & when you get that recipe perfected, you put a stamp of approval on it & break it out every year on Thanksgiving.....no need to reinvent the recipe every year.

That's essentially what we're doing.

What's outlined above is that plan/recipe w/ his race-day modifications (ie only consuming 1/2 the Virtue bottle) of what he ACTUALLY consumed.

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Pardon my ignorance but why is so much sugar and salt needed?
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It is one of the greatest comebacks in any sport ever.

That seems like an incredible amount of sodium and a small overall volume of liquid but it sure worked. I can't imagine how much sodium and liquid he would need at a hot race.
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Brian,

I didn't read any mention of Rapp's water intake during the race. Does he drink it? If so, any idea how much/often the rate is?

Thanks,
Jon
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Brain,

I didn't read any mention of Rapp's water intake during the race. Does he drink it? If so, any idea how much/often the rate is?

Thanks,
Jon

No water. Water makes me cramp.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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Pardon my ignorance but why is so much sugar and salt needed?

The sugar answer is easy. Ironman racing takes a LOT of calories. From a caloric standpoint, the total expenditure is not too much different regardless of time. I.e., whether you finish in 10hrs or 8hrs, the total calories are *approximately* the same. So the faster you go, the more calories you need ASAP. And sugar is really the only way to get those calories quickly and in a form that is easily and rapidly digestible. If I was doing equivalent training, I'd shift my focus to fat & protein. But that's just not realistic during an Ironman. You don't get to stop and eat lunch. Well, except for that guy with a 50+ minute T2.

As for sodium, it's just what I need based on trial-and-error testing to keep from cramping. Generally, though, folks have a skewed perspective about what "normal" is. I lose a fair bit of sodium, but I know folks that need 2x as much sodium as I take in. THAT is a lot.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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It is one of the greatest comebacks in any sport ever.

That seems like an incredible amount of sodium and a small overall volume of liquid but it sure worked. I can't imagine how much sodium and liquid he would need at a hot race.

Not really that much more sodium. More fluid. Probably I'd have done another 2 bottles of Perform on the bike.

In general, I tend to lose a lot of electrolytes when I sweat, but not a ton of fluid. This based off weighing myself before/after (not a big drop) and observing the salt on my skin/clothes after training in hot weather.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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That's very interesting to me, I assumed water would be necessary to aid in the absorption of other fuel, but you obviously don't have that issue? Can you explain the type of cramping you experienced from water? Was it sharp abdominal pain or other? I am asking, because I am trouble shooting a stomach issue I recently had at IMFL, and I was thinking it could have been brought on from a lack of water, I never even considered the opposite.

Oh, can explain how/why water would make you/someone cramp? Do you not drink straight water in training either?

Thanks,
Jon

PS - As many have stated, fantastic job on the weekend, it was awesome to watch you make your come back!
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Thanks for the post, very informative.
Not sure how anyone can drink that orange/mango drink on the run. The flavor is just awful (to me). The Power Bar Perform drink (any flavor) seems to work ok, no abdominal distress, but if the flavor is bad, I ended up drinking a lot of cola.
How do you carry you salt tablets on the run?
Karl from Simi

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That's very interesting to me, I assumed water would be necessary to aid in the absorption of other fuel, but you obviously don't have that issue? Can you explain the type of cramping you experienced from water? Was it sharp abdominal pain or other? I am asking, because I am trouble shooting a stomach issue I recently had at IMFL, and I was thinking it could have been brought on from a lack of water, I never even considered the opposite.

Oh, can explain how/why water would make you/someone cramp? Do you not drink straight water in training either?

Thanks,
Jon

PS - As many have stated, fantastic job on the weekend, it was awesome to watch you make your come back!

Water upsets my stomach. Makes me get a side-stitch type feeling. So yeah, "sharp abdominal pain." No idea why. I guess I never bothered to care. It just seems to happen, so I don't drink water. Don't drink it in training either.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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Thanks for the post, very informative.
Not sure how anyone can drink that orange/mango drink on the run. The flavor is just awful (to me). The Power Bar Perform drink (any flavor) seems to work ok, no abdominal distress, but if the flavor is bad, I ended up drinking a lot of cola.
How do you carry you salt tablets on the run?
Karl from Simi

I thought the PowerBar stuff was going to be awful after hearing the reports. But I *really* liked it. Much preferred it to Gatorade. My ONLY complaint is that the sport tops were crap. I had one that wouldn't close. And several others that as soon as you loosened them a bit the top would start to unscrew.

I carry my salt tablets in small vials. Two of them. I actually found the first ever Hammer product I like!

http://www.hammernutrition.com/...upplement-organizers

Ironically, I know the company that makes them. My dad did VC work for them.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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What's the calorie estimate of the one cup Perform and coke per aid station?

The amount of cals during the run is just amazing to me as it's almost the same as when you're on the bike...
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I had the same problem with the screw tops on the bike. One was loose and leaking all over me/bike. Good thing we had the rain to clean it all up ;)

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Hi Jordan (or Brian if you can answer), I see you have a pretty constant 100g CHO / hour. Are you looking to hit similar totals during long (> 3hr) training sessions? Or do you dial it back a bit? Also could we get an ~ breakdown of the (Calories / CHO etc.) for breakfast as well? Cheers.
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Rapp-
You are a very lucky man. I am happy for you, and I know you worked your ass off to regain your form after the accident.

Congratulations!

Considered publishing your experience(s)?
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Hi Jordan (or Brian if you can answer), I see you have a pretty constant 100g CHO / hour. Are you looking to hit similar totals during long (> 3hr) training sessions? Or do you dial it back a bit? Also could we get an ~ breakdown of the (Calories / CHO etc.) for breakfast as well? Cheers.

I take in WAY less CHO during training. What do you think all that bacon is for?! On race day, the vast majority of my calories come from CHO. During training, my diet is roughly 40% protein, 30% CHO, 30% fat.

The breakfast has WAY more fat calories. I'd say that probably 50% of the breakfast calories are fat.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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With only that aero bottle on the bike, where did all the other drinks come from?
At the races that I have completed, the volunteers hand me a bottle and I usually have no idea what's in it.

Do pros have special handlers for nutrition?
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There's a bottle cage between my bars.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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On race day, the vast majority of my calories come from CHO.

Do you actually get hungry during the race or do you just take in the predetermined calories/hr regardless?
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Did your supernatural ability to process calories (especially on the run, 400kcal/hr, sweet $DIETY, that's amazing) come through training, or have you always been able to do it?

Congratulations and respect for the huge effort and hours involved in the recovery.
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Jordan,

I must say you're a super nice guy and very patient man. More than half of these questions have already been posed to you before on this thread from last year: IMAZ 2009 Nutrition Report. Again, hat's off to you for that and more.


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Good stuff. Thanks for posting. And again, great job Jordan!
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Thanks for posting this great information and great job Jordan.

It certainly makes me stop and think about my nutrition, especially my pathetic calorie intake during racing. More trial & error required on my part.
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On race day, the vast majority of my calories come from CHO.

Do you actually get hungry during the race or do you just take in the predetermined calories/hr regardless?

I just eat what I know I need to. Believe me, I do not "desire" to eat that much. Especially that much of that sort of "food." Bacon? Maybe. But not that much sugar...

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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Did your supernatural ability to process calories (especially on the run, 400kcal/hr, sweet $DIETY, that's amazing) come through training, or have you always been able to do it?

Congratulations and respect for the huge effort and hours involved in the recovery.

I think it's mostly just dumb luck. Sorry. I guess I just picked good parents.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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Hi Jordan, I use a lot of FE products (Ultragen, Liquid Shot, PreRace and EFS) and find them all really good (albeit the taste of the liquid shot and to an extent the EFS leaves a lot to be desired, at least you cant taste the pre-race with lime flavoured Gatorade) But anyway to my point, why do you have Ultragen in the morning for breakfast?? Doesnt the protein upset the stomach?

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I take in WAY less CHO during training. What do you think all that bacon is for?! On race day, the vast majority of my calories come from CHO. During training, my diet is roughly 40% protein, 30% CHO, 30% fat.



I've heard of similar percentages in the past. What I'm wondering is how you go about trying to meet these daily ratios with the complexities of meal planning. I just spent 10 minutes trying to put together a meal and it was difficult. Do you have a weekly grocery list that gives you these percentages?
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I take in WAY less CHO during training. What do you think all that bacon is for?! On race day, the vast majority of my calories come from CHO. During training, my diet is roughly 40% protein, 30% CHO, 30% fat.


I've heard of similar percentages in the past. What I'm wondering is how you go about trying to meet these daily ratios with the complexities of meal planning. I just spent 10 minutes trying to put together a meal and it was difficult. Do you have a weekly grocery list that gives you these percentages?

Not Jordan, but from my experience, after you chart out your meals to hit your targeted ratios, you then never have to do it again...it's done. So, the up front leg work can be a bit laborious, but it's not repeatable. Hope that makes sense.

Jordan, it will be a great Thanksgiving this year, won't it? God bless you, my man.
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Hey Jordan I was racing Sunday and I meant to find you after the race to say congrats, coming back so far to be only a couple minutes off last year's time, esp with the wind this year, is an amazing achievement and incredibly impressive. Nice job.
Don
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Hi Jordan, I use a lot of FE products (Ultragen, Liquid Shot, PreRace and EFS) and find them all really good (albeit the taste of the liquid shot and to an extent the EFS leaves a lot to be desired, at least you cant taste the pre-race with lime flavoured Gatorade) But anyway to my point, why do you have Ultragen in the morning for breakfast?? Doesnt the protein upset the stomach?

Calories. And non-sugar calories - protein, dextrose, and some fat. And dense calories - i.e., I don't get bloated. I eat at 4:15-30am, so that's a long time to digest. Most people I talk to eat stuff that retains too much water and eat too late.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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I take in WAY less CHO during training. What do you think all that bacon is for?! On race day, the vast majority of my calories come from CHO. During training, my diet is roughly 40% protein, 30% CHO, 30% fat.



I've heard of similar percentages in the past. What I'm wondering is how you go about trying to meet these daily ratios with the complexities of meal planning. I just spent 10 minutes trying to put together a meal and it was difficult. Do you have a weekly grocery list that gives you these percentages?

I don't hold myself to the percentages. I've found if you eat clean, good, real food, your body tells you what it wants. And so I just spend a lot of time thinking, "what do I want to eat," and then, when I look back each week/day/month, I'm pretty bang on. After IMAZ, I was craving non-sweet stuff, so that's what I've been eating. Lots of greenery and protein. Not much starch. That was after I got my must-eat-hamburgers craving out of the way... :D

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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Hey Jordan, I've gotten worn out on EFS liquid shot. Any other suggestions? I also have a tough time with a ton of gu.

Is it a bad idea to take dextrose from something super cheap like sweet tarts? And if you do that, where can you get more calories to supplement?
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Thanks for the nutrition info Jordan. I also just wanted to say that it was awesome seeing you out on the course. I shouted at you each time we passed on the bike. When you guys finally lapped me on your third loop I couldn't believe how fast you were moving into that headwind!

Also, another thread here on ST was focused on the AGers on the bullhorns. Well, I was on the bullhorns when you guys and the camera crews passed me, but that was just so I could sit up and appreciate how much you were dominating the bike!

Great race.
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I take in WAY less CHO during training. What do you think all that bacon is for?! On race day, the vast majority of my calories come from CHO. During training, my diet is roughly 40% protein, 30% CHO, 30% fat.

The breakfast has WAY more fat calories. I'd say that probably 50% of the breakfast calories are fat.

Jordan,

Given your protein/fat focus during training (and water avoidance), what do you use for nutrition/hydration on bike/run long workouts?

Thanks!

guido
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Rappstar wrote:

I take in WAY less CHO during training. What do you think all that bacon is for?! On race day, the vast majority of my calories come from CHO. During training, my diet is roughly 40% protein, 30% CHO, 30% fat.

The breakfast has WAY more fat calories. I'd say that probably 50% of the breakfast calories are fat.

Jordan,

Given your protein/fat focus during training (and water avoidance), what do you use for nutrition/hydration on bike/run long workouts?

Thanks!

guido

During workouts, I make do with what's convenient and available. So I bring EFS and either an EFS bar or gel on long rides. And if I need to stop for gatorade or something, I do. But I try to eat a good, solid breakfast beforehand so that I don't need a ton of calories during the ride. For runs, on anything 90min or less, I don't consume any calories. For 90-120min, I will consume an EFS gel flask. Again, good meal BEFORE is key.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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During workouts, I make do with what's convenient and available. So I bring EFS and either an EFS bar or gel on long rides. And if I need to stop for gatorade or something, I do. But I try to eat a good, solid breakfast beforehand so that I don't need a ton of calories during the ride. For runs, on anything 90min or less, I don't consume any calories. For 90-120min, I will consume an EFS gel flask. Again, good meal BEFORE is key.

Interesting. How long do you generally need to wait between the good meal and the workout?

Thanks!
guido
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Jordan, I have been wanting to stock up on some efs bars for the upcoming season. Do you have any idea when the new batch of EFS bars will be available to the public? Are they coming out with some new EFS bar flavours? I thought you might have some inside info you can pass along.

Thanks

Good luck In Costa Rica!

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There was a tweet from First Endurance a couple weeks ago regarding the EFS bars. It seemed like late February they will be available again.

http://yfrog.com/h8zzykj This just approved. Next step means YOU can try the new EFS bar in late Feb!! these are better than previous!
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SLOW&STEADY wrote:
Jordan, I have been wanting to stock up on some efs bars for the upcoming season. Do you have any idea when the new batch of EFS bars will be available to the public? Are they coming out with some new EFS bar flavours? I thought you might have some inside info you can pass along.

Thanks

Good luck In Costa Rica!

Yup, late Feb is the projected date. Fingers crossed.

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guido wrote:
Rappstar wrote:
During workouts, I make do with what's convenient and available. So I bring EFS and either an EFS bar or gel on long rides. And if I need to stop for gatorade or something, I do. But I try to eat a good, solid breakfast beforehand so that I don't need a ton of calories during the ride. For runs, on anything 90min or less, I don't consume any calories. For 90-120min, I will consume an EFS gel flask. Again, good meal BEFORE is key.

Interesting. How long do you generally need to wait between the good meal and the workout?

Thanks!
guido

Depends on the meal and the workout. I can eat a big meal less than 30min before a long ride. But I'd want 90min before a long run.

VERY rough guide
30-60min before bike
60-90min before swim
90-120min before run

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Rappstar wrote:

Depends on the meal and the workout. I can eat a big meal less than 30min before a long ride. But I'd want 90min before a long run.

VERY rough guide
30-60min before bike
60-90min before swim
90-120min before run

Thanks Jordan!

This will work great for weekend rides. Now i just have to figure out how to get proper protein and fat 30 minutes before my weekday afterwork ride and still make family dinner with some appetite left!

Appreciate your insights!

guido
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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [SLOW&STEADY] [ In reply to ]
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SLOW&STEADY wrote:
Jordan, I have been wanting to stock up on some efs bars for the upcoming season. Do you have any idea when the new batch of EFS bars will be available to the public? Are they coming out with some new EFS bar flavours? I thought you might have some inside info you can pass along.
FYI on the EFS Bars....we just received another update from 1st Endurance & they're now looking at a May '11 ETA. If I get any additional information, I'll be sure to post it.

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Brian Shea
http://www.PersonalBestNutrition.com
Open-Water/Masters Swimming at the Jersey Shore:
Monmouth County NJ Ocean Swim/Masters Workouts
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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [BrianPBN] [ In reply to ]
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Tremendous thread !
Very very scary picture indeed. Incredible to see the pictures in the order of ER and then tremendous success. I'm very sure there are not many stories like this , especially in an 8 month time frame.
That is a real Ironman and success story.

Great to see you back at the peak of the sport Jordan and thanks again for sharing your race details.
Best of luck in your future races !

Terry

"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream" - Les Brown
"Discipline is the bridge between goals and accomplishment" - Jim Rohn
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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [canuck8] [ In reply to ]
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havnt figured out how to subscribe thread lol, but I know I won't lose this info if I post :)

I'm gonna need this later hehehe
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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [IanH] [ In reply to ]
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Curious, how did you carry your nutrition (GU) on the bike and run since you weren't using the on course gels?
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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [oceanlife] [ In reply to ]
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I have one of these for the bike:
http://www.personalbestnutrition.com/cgi-bin/pbn/323.html


And I just tuck the gel flask under a shoulder strap on my trisuit on the run.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
Last edited by: Rappstar: Feb 3, 11 14:46
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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, I thought so. Thanks for the response!
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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [BrianPBN] [ In reply to ]
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Ok. thanks, Brian. I've been waiting a long time to try the new bars so I guess I'll wait a little longer:(

"I swim because that's how I get to ride my bike."

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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Jordan,
Can you give us an idea on how your nutrition, especially salt intake would change in a 70.3 event? Is it just half of your ironman or substantially less? I imagine it is temperature related, right?
Thanks!

Team Zoot So Cal
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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [Karl] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [BrianPBN] [ In reply to ]
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BrianPBN wrote:
FYI on the EFS Bars....we just received another update from 1st Endurance & they're now looking at a May '11 ETA. If I get any additional information, I'll be sure to post it.

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Argh. Best pre-workout fuel I've found! I would kill to have a bar or two for pre-race fuel for the austin marathon on sunday...


Austin, TX
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Re: Rappstar's 2010 IMAZ Nutrition Report (8:16:45/4th o'all) [Karl] [ In reply to ]
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Basically just half. I don't, however, tweak it too much for temperature. You can still sweat a LOT in cool weather. Having done some sweat tests in cooler weather, I don't think it's nearly as substantial a difference as you might think when the temperature drops. Especially since cool is also often very dry, that can sap even more than you think.

"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
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