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There is a new "challenge" commencing Feb 15. This will be the first challenge based on aerobic points, that is to say, the metric used to determine who's leading the challenge is not swim yards, or run sessions, but aerobic points (a way to normalize and aggregate a volume of work performed across various endurance disciplines).

There is an article on the home page discussing this challenge. You'll note that it's elementary to many of you, in that it goes over some things about Slowtwitch you already well know. The reason for the article is this: as it is a USAT National Championship, and as we are focusing on this race with a challenge, USAT is apprising its annual members of this in an effort to join forces, so to speak, and provide a robust training utility to their members -- many who are already Slowtwitch readers, many who are not.

This will be the official smack-talking, information-sharing, no-question-is-too-stupid-asking, thread. You'll note some new users posting here over the next few weeks, as some of the USAT folks click over, read, and decide to stay and participate. Do your best to be gentle ... with them. But for the rest of us old timers, may the bragging, wagering, prognosticating, and spit-talking begin. I'm pretty sure I'm going to win this challenge, tho I know I'm going to have to rub Mike Plumb's face in the dirt to do it (in every competition there is a casualty).

Dan Empfield
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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How about bike trainer workouts? You don't want to go by miles on a trainer (say, rollers with no resistance)...

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Just Old] [ In reply to ]
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Im in!

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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OK if you're going to have smacktalk this USAT Du Nationals Challenge will not be complete unless you SoCal boys do a duathlon on Palomar...5 K run out and back from the post that you start the climb on (you can do the run wherever is runable without doing it on the climb) and then hop on your bikes and head for the summit. Paul Thomas better be up the mountain in under an hour. You better have duathlon King Kenny Souza show up in a speedo and Nishiki.

We want live ST coverage. We should even have a donation page put up so you can fly in smackdown challengers from Missouri...any additional donations that remain after the guest racer is brought in from Missouri can be used for prize money :-) :-) :-)

I'll even host a version for your NorCal friends out of Palo Alto and we'll ride up Old Lahonda (I know, a mere bump compared to Palomar), the first week of April when I am supposed to head down for some meetings.

Dev
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Just Old] [ In reply to ]
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I would say it is pretty well honour system....if someone wants to put down 25 mph on their rollers or trainer, then they are only cheating themselves unless they are Floyd or Tyler (in which case...well we won't go there...). I just put 30 kph regardless of how hard or easy I go on my insideride rollers, cause that is pretty well what my outdoor rides end up averaging with hills and wind.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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expect no favors, I am on a roll this year. The knees are cooperating and I am running well. Swimming and biking are also going well. So I guess that means I am in for the Challenge.

Mike Plumb, TriPower MultiSports
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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If they are lucky, they have a PT rear wheel that gives all the information they need, even on the trainer! ;-)

And yes...I am definitely in. Du Nats is "A" race for the spring!

RBailey....where are you? And the rest of the 40-44 crowd?
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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Well if some guys are doing the palomar virtual climb duathlon they better put a phone book under their trainer, then they better turn on the fan to simulate the headwind, turn on the solar lamp for the sun and finally add a few cement bottles to the bike for training effect. Then insert their virual results somewhere between Floyd, Kenny Souza and Paul Thomas (did I just say that Kenny beats Paul Thomas to the top) ???

OK, better go out and run....20 min warmup bike to lubricate the joints and then 10K run.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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OK if you're going to have smacktalk this USAT Du Nationals Challenge will not be complete unless you SoCal boys do a duathlon on Palomar...5 K run out and back from the post that you start the climb on (you can do the run wherever is runable without doing it on the climb) and then hop on your bikes and head for the summit. ... and a run to the Observatory after that seems reasonable, don't you think?

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. Hopefully this will be the extra motivation I need to really crank out the bike miles. That's not going so well these days.

I race duathlons and like it.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in although I sprained my ankle yesterday warming up for a triathlon turned aquathon because the roads were too icy to ride on...granted I sprained my ankle on the run course slipping on ice, lol.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [mcoughlin] [ In reply to ]
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Show up to the Irontour Whiteface mountain hillclimb on Friday June 19th at 4 pm at Mirror Lake beach in Lake Placid....since I really don't like running that much we do a the hillclimb for bragging rights and then return to Mirror Lake Beach and swim Beach to Beach to Beach (around 2.7K)...that swim at the end of a crazy hard 3 hour ride while not quite Palomar observatory "legendary" should be a suitable stand in for those of use stuck in the snow right now. My times on Whiteface and Alpe d'Huez are within a minute of each other for what it is worth...note quite Palomar gross elevation gain but pretty solid nonetheless total climb of 3522 at 8% (we actually end our climb at bit further up the road at the flagpole after the parking lot...the official race ends down the mtn at the start of the parking lot)

Sadly it falls outside the time frame of this challenge !
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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c'mon dev ...

"crazy hard 3 hour ride"

more like mind-mumbingly, quad-crushingly,butt-grindingly hard 1hr+ ride sandwiched between two easy cruises. but i am *so* there :)


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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [dawhead] [ In reply to ]
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You realize that when we were riding back to LP after Whiteface, Dave Harju's Powertap was spiking up to 300-400W on every hill...our perceived exertion meters were off after the pain of Whiiteface....OK, call it 90 minute super hard and 90 minutes of cruising around and softpedalling/tucking downhill
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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Are you already in the Old Man's category? I would be in except for two reasons: 1) I'm really slow right now (a mere shadow of my last year's fitness and 2) no money to travel either. They don't make for a good combination, but with me still cranking out regular Vasa workouts--as in six days a week. I swam my highest month in several years and the first time in 29P that I have "swam" at all in January. :) I doubt I'll be much of a duathlete until the end of May, but I may actually be a trithlete for the first time ever.

Chad
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [cyclonehockey21] [ In reply to ]
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Im no longer in the young shits category i just moved up to 25-29m

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge...I may be old but I am in [ In reply to ]
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OK. I am in and signed up for Du Nat. What the heck is the course like? I have heard good/bad things about this race......

May we save duathlons...

KK
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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I guess I'm in.
I've 'graduated' up to the 40-44 category this year. There is some incredible competition in that AG.

Today was my first day of being unemployed since.....I think since I was 15 years old.
Hopefully I won't have lots and lots of extra time to train between now and then, but it's not looking good.

Doug

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [cyclonehockey21] [ In reply to ]
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sweet one less person to worry about! thanks for being old
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [btmoney] [ In reply to ]
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Haha i don't think you have to "worry" too much about me. It will be my first du i actually trained for. I'm not counting worlds last year since that was just a clusterfuck and after starting 3hours late i hit a brick wall on the 4th lap of the bike.

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [cyclonehockey21] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. Seeing how I have nothing better to do than to bike and run.
That and I'm doing the Age Group race instead of the Junior race (which sucks because it's twice the distance).
18-19 Age Group FTW!! :D

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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I'll be leaving the 40-44 crowd this year and officially become an old fart. I hope to squeek onto Team USA at Nationals then get fit and take my A game to Worlds in the fall. With both races driving distance from NY, it would be pretty lame not to show up.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
R.I.P. Chris Gleason
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds like we're on the same plan...with the same reasoning. What about ML? He gonna toe the line in Richmond?

Nats, Worlds, AmZof...yup...gonna be a good year!
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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I think ML does plan on going, in which case we'll probably road trip together. Of course, we'll have to take turns driving, or the tires will wear unevenly given my copious weight and the fact that ML weighs less than my dog.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Did you not get the memo from cyclonehockey that 25-29 was old farts. You're not just dinosaur, 45-49 is more life fossilized dino age group (of course at the local tris, we just get trashed by all fossilized dinos...its rather pathetic! Good luck at du nationals and world's
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Did you not get the memo from cyclonehockey that 25-29 was old farts. You're not just dinosaur, 45-49 is more life fossilized dino age group (of course at the local tris, we just get trashed by all fossilized dinos...its rather pathetic! Good luck at du nationals and world's

Did you not get the memo on reading comprehension. all i said was im no longer in the young shits category. it had nothing to do with being old.

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks, Dev. Of course, I'm playing the "age and treachery trump youth and exhuberance" card. The 25-29 year olds are young enough to be my spawn. Accordingly, I'm going to spank them, hard.

2015 American Zofingen Du is May 17.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [cyclonehockey21] [ In reply to ]
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OK, sorry the memo about 25-29 being old was from btmoney....anyway, it must be a youthful thing to put down a few workouts and project a 4:2x Half Ironman time....don't give the old guys or fossils on this thread too much smack cause we all have put down 4:1x times and Tetsoni might come out and spank all of you guys hard with a 4:0x....
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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OK, sorry the memo about 25-29 being old was from btmoney....anyway, it must be a youthful thing to put down a few workouts and project a 4:2x Half Ironman time....don't give the old guys or fossils on this thread too much smack cause we all have put down 4:1x times and Tetsoni might come out and spank all of you guys hard with a 4:0x....


SOoooo im supposed to think you're special that you've done 4.1x? If thats good for you then thats awesome. I try to be supportive when people are trying to hit goals. I guess if you are already faster then that time you don't need to be. thats cool though whatever floats your boat.

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [cyclonehockey21] [ In reply to ]
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No, I guess you were giving me a hard time about my reading so I decided to give you a hard time about doing some workouts and coming up with a virtual 4:3x finishing time (your first statement on that previous thread)....sorry man, but you can't put down studly training times and claim a virtual race time :-). In fairness, my best times on a legit courses are not 4:1x, it is 4:2x :-). In general I am actually quite supportive of people's efforts (or I would not waste time putting together challenges to encourage people to get fitter), until they insert virtual race times, then the smack talk comes out...and one can only back up smack with real results....and by the way, getting spanked by Tetsoni is really really bad news....you don't want that happening for sure!
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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No, I guess you were giving me a hard time about my reading so I decided to give you a hard time about doing some workouts and coming up with a virtual 4:3x finishing time (your first statement on that previous thread)....sorry man, but you can't put down studly training times and claim a virtual race time :-). In fairness, my best times on a legit courses are not 4:1x, it is 4:2x :-). In general I am actually quite supportive of people's efforts (or I would not waste time putting together challenges to encourage people to get fitter), until they insert virtual race times, then the smack talk comes out...and one can only back up smack with real results....and by the way, getting spanked by Tetsoni is really really bad news....you don't want that happening for sure!

You don't try to figure out how you are going to do at races based on your fitness level? Normally i can nail my olympic times within a minute or two based on how i am feeling in training. I was just trying to get a guage on where i was at. I guess we'll just have to see how i am feeling at Miami Int. Tri then in 6 weeks. What do you think i need to go there, to have a shot at 4:30?

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [cyclonehockey21] [ In reply to ]
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For me the only way to project a range for an A race is to do a few B and C races, where there is a timing chip and race day pressure. Anyone can perform in training, cause you can cherry pick the day that you feel good to test yourself. Racing on the other hand, the dates are fixed by someone else and whether you feel good or bad, you are surrounded by competition and have to perform or not. To me, that is a better indicator of how one is likely to do in an A race.

Frankly I have no idea of how my overall prep is going towards an A event, until I set foot in a B or C event. I do have various bike time trial courses and run workouts that I do, that give me an idea if I am on track, but these aren't items that I can realisitically lean on for anything else but a trend of which way the fitness is going. I need B and C events to get a grip on bringing things together mentally on race day. There are too many factors on top of fitness that also play into the final time and B and C races is where I get a feel for how I am performing on those items.

There are practices, regular season games, playoffs, and finals. You want to perform in the finals, the best gauge is how you did in the playoffs...practice time is practice time, but the puck slides and bounces differently in the finals.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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So, I train @ 15 mph but I'm going to do :56 on the bike, and I run @ 8:30 pace but I'm going to lay down a :38 and :18 at Du Nats!!! Yea.

25-29er
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]
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Sure, if you can run at 15 mph, not only do you have the engine to ride 56 on the bike, but while you are at it let Haille know that you have plans to run a sub 1:45 marathon :-)...you did say "train at 15 mph..."
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Haha, if only life were so sweet.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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old=older than myself....sorry bout your fossilized self :) I'd hope someone with 10-15-20+ years of training in the sport could kick my ass.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [btmoney] [ In reply to ]
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One would certainly hope so. Old people have no excuse, right?

"Get better with age" and all that stuff.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [btmoney] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds like a weak excuse for not being able to beat some older guys.......:-) :-) :-). I think Tetsoni and you will be at Du nationals and he's already made some statements about spanking the kids :-)
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Works for me even though I have my qualifying race in 2 and a half weeks (already logged a bunch of training) but it's ok I plan on qualifying for worlds in September so I can still train and log more than all of you ;)
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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This is perfect for me, as I am going to try my first Duathlons this year. If the weather would just cooperate a little bit, I might even be able to ride my road bike in February :D
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Jamison] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome.
Natties is a little short for my taste, but it should be good fun regardless. I hope we get a good turnout in Richmond, Du can use all the support it can get, and it would be nice to shake up the podium at worlds. Best luck to those racing, especially the newbees.
See you at the finish line!
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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damn it you old dog, you mean i actually have to race you head to head to make worlds? ah, whatever, world's wasn't the goal for me anyway :) if i can't make it this year, i'm definitely never going to. the running is solid, and once i get back to the US (feb 17th), the riding starts up again (outside & in). i should be as fast as i've ever been, and if that can't take out your overstuffed sofa cushion of a beer gut on this course, then i'm just going back to stationary embroidery as my main athletic endeavour. anyway, mrs. d. will be there to provide the real athletic competition, although she hasn't had a good winter at all (she had a hamstring pull just before the berlin marathon).

what i don't get, well maybe i do, is all the fuss about "world's du in the USA" when it was held in the exact same venue 2 years ago. ok, it was long course and USAT hadn't decided to try to promote it a little more widely.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [dawhead] [ In reply to ]
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Save your pistons of the Whiteface hillclimb at Irontour....we need some someone to give Triyoda, lavery and Harju a run....we need to get Tetsoni up for the hillclimb with his overstuffed yada yada yada....
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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When is Irontour?
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [eganski] [ In reply to ]
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Mirror Lake LP, 4 pm Friday June 19th for the Uphill TT stage up Whiteface with Beach to Beach to Beach swim+all you can eat chinese buffet. Mirror Lake LP 6 am Sat June 20th for the beach to beach to beach Mirror Lake swim+190K bike (2xToll Road to Whiteface gate, one reverse loop up Keene, one forward loop)+Mirror Lake Loop Run

This is a "Bjorn Friendly/ST Approved", with ~5.5 K swimming, ~260K riding, 7K running in lesss than 20 hours :-). You guys from Philly should ship up a full busload of studs to flatten Whiteface with your massive quads. I'll see if I can get a suffieciently large group of posers and hangers on from Canuckistan....
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I may have to come up for that. Assuming I'm recovered from TTT, I'll shift my focus to LP and get in some recon. It would be worth it just to meet Murphy'sLaw. Hey ML, you're a PU$$Y and can't respond until spring!!! I OWN YOU!

The longest "climb" I do here in Philly is about 1k, so I imagine that I'd get killed on the Whiteface climb.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [eganski] [ In reply to ]
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You can stay back for Sunday and do 2 forward loops to get the full recce. The course for this traning event is designed to take trigeeks off the "beaten path" that being the exact IMLP Loop. On Sunday the rest of us will be shelled and heading home, but if you do two forward loops preceeded by a 50 min swim, you should get a good appreciation for the course (again). I think ML usually comes up with some excuse about his wife's birthday that weekend, however, I think the real reason is cause he does not want to get spanked by triyoda on the hillclimb...
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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really hope to be in for inrontour this year...really wanna ride up that lil hill for some reason. Tetsuoni is gonna crush some kids dreams for sure BTW, dude is down right speedy and as he will have a P4, well, you know the rest...
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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Cervelo must be getting really serious if they won't equip their factory team with a P4 for protour events, but will equip Tetsoni for du nationals to spank the young guns!!!!
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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he has more $ than the test team...
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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No, I am pretty sure the Gerard thinks that the P4 needs a 45 year old on top to show how fast the bike really is. We already know that Sastre is fast regardless of bike underneath him. If Tetsoni can spank young guys while he rides a P4, then Gerard gets the perfect marketing. All the 45-49 guys are the one with fat wallets and the moment they see one of their peers cleaning up on a P4, they will open up the wallets...recession or no recession.....
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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When are you getting yours?
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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I'm too slow for a P4 or even KueenK...I'm on Kalibur....and heck, Normann's done nothing since he stopped riding his Kalibur so maybe he should just get his ass back on one....(although I've done nothing with mine aside from posting a zillion times...)





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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Did u at least get a power meter yet?
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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OK, Murphy's Law might not be reading ST, but he's dropped down to the level where he is posting smack through me :-)....Eganski, are you reading?

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I can’t read that. My IT department (me) has blocked that website until April ’09.
(ST forum is blocked for me at work anyway. Not that that matters at the moment.)

Who are they, and how do they define ‘smacking’? About the only ST pos(t)ers who could actually make me work on Whiteface are Yoda, Lavery, and maybe 2-3 others. Anybody else, I’d crush them like a grape.

Climbing is all about power/weight ratio. I don’t have a clue where the power part of that is now (probably kinda low, but my “low” is still more than most folks best).
However, the weight part is very favorable. My peak race weight is 155. I’ve been at, or below that, since before AmZof last year. ~153 the last few days.
I’m planning on racing in ’09 at 150-153. Slap a 295 FTP onto that (my usual mid-season fitness),
and that’s 4.28 w/kg – which is quite a bit higher than the ~4.08 w/kg I was at when I did the 56:30 on Whiteface back in ’07 (for my Stupid Human Trick the evening before Epicman)

Happy Friday!
-M

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By the way, they are talking about smacking you on Whiteface over on ST:

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=2188457;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;page=last;#last

You might need to come out of your hiatus to respond....

Dev

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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nice...I talked to him last week and he pretty much assured me that he would be crushing any and all dreams I may have for this year with authority.

How much time are you guys spotting me at Timerberman anyhow?
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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OK, ML continues his virtual posting smacktalk....we have now totally hijacked slowman's du national's thread with "smack Murphy's law..." ...although he does plan to be at Du Nats and World's so it is slightly on topic and he assures me that he is doing the ST Du World's training camp challenge in stealth mode (does not want us to see his workouts...)

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Anybody who wants a piece of ML , can find me on

ML’s East Coast Smackdown Tour ’09:
Du Nats
Harriman HIM
Epicman (I’ll be cruising at Dev Speed this year, I have a sprint the following day)
Tupper Lake HIM
Timberman HIM
Westchester Toughman HIM (tentative)
Du Worlds (tentative, gotta qualify at Nats first)
American Zofingen LC

Talk is cheap.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Why bother to show up, all I need to do is send along my power and weight, and have ML plug the numbers in ;^)
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [eganski] [ In reply to ]
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ML's numbers don't account for 7 out of 8 miles of headwind up Whiteface when we did it last year :-) For a while I thought even a lame guy like me was going to come in on ML's 56 min time but got beaten by the mountain wind gods and crawled in at 57:20. Lavery and Harju were down at 51ish so you should have plenty of people to smack around....
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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No one's gonna out-smacktalk me. Send him this post:

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...murphy'slaw;#1407089
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [cdw] [ In reply to ]
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Isn't Desert Du one of the othe qualifiers? Not so far from you. Then you could roll your pennies and get to worlds out here in Charlotte!

Of course worlds are my biggest goal for the year. And I'm heading back to AmZof too.

PM me and let me know how things are for you...
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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sweet Kalibur, Paul. What tires are those? I've never seen so much whitewall (brownwall?) on a bike tire before. I really hope when I get my fitting done, they say I'll be fit for a Kueen K....
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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You know...I'm starting to see ML's logic...stay the hell away from ST for six months...train like a madman...come back...talk BIG smack...and follow through with some serious whoop ass.

A master of his domain, of a sort.




I'm out!
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [btmoney] [ In reply to ]
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Front tire is Vittoria Corsa CX. Rear tire was an el cheapo Clement Criterium (found it in the LBS gathering dust and bought it on clearout). Frankly it seemed no slower than any other tubular.

Tribriguy, ML and I are up for good smackdown at Timberman...he spanked me solidly at Demi Esprit, and my lame excuse is I was coming off Ironman Canada 3 weeks before, followed by a business trip to China and Japan during which I got violently sick and only returned from 3 days before the race. I'll give ML the win (he beat me by a solid 8 minutes....but with no sickness or travel right after an Ironman, the gap could be a bit closer...and since he is not posting, I can say whatever the hell I want.....). I'll have a chance to redeem myself at Timberman. (As a point of reference, ML's whiteface time is 1 min faster than mine, so yes he is studlier, but I don't think a full 8 minutes over a half Ironman) :-)
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Fiddlesticks, was just....reminded....that my cousin's wedding is that weekend. I really wanted to get up there for that, maybe I'll go up the weekend before and send ML my powerfile.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [eganski] [ In reply to ]
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Then come up Friday June 5th for Epicman (3K swim-180K bike-21K run). You can do like ML and come up on Thursday early and do the Whiteface climb and then do Epicman the next day (and bonk). It is in honour of ML that the Irontour format is the shape that it is (Minus the long run on Day 2, thus saving ourselves from the bonk).

Dev
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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I think ML sets the spread, but I think I should spot you half the spread between my LP finish time and yours.....what's that....1.5 minutes?
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I'll open by saying I've signed up now and am ready to train. That being said I have a question about training. I had a torn medial meniscus repaired 3 weeks ago but am now ready to resume training. What is the best way for me to get ready in the next 10+2 weeks? I haven't lost too much base as demonstrated by my 8.5 mile run this morning near usual pace. I just came off marathon training so I could use some extra work on the bike.

Anyone got any really good ideas on how to set up my weeks? I was thinking of a two week cycle to add an extra work out every other Friday. I typically only work out Tuesday, Thursdays, some Fridays, and both Saturday and Sunday taking Monday off completely as a rest day. Wednesday is usually just active recovery commuting to work (and the same with working Fridays). Let's hear those excellent suggestions!
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I think ML sets the spread, but I think I should spot you half the spread between my LP finish time and yours.....what's that....1.5 minutes?
very generous, how about half the split from 2007?
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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I thought "you are only as good as your last race"....2007 version was a much studlier athlete who was actually capable of some semblance of running off the bike....and I did 2 IM's in 2008, so you can pick your spread from either of those :-)
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I thought "you are only as good as your last race"....2007 version was a much studlier athlete who was actually capable of some semblance of running off the bike....and I did 2 IM's in 2008, so you can pick your spread from either of those :-)
Deal, lets call it 5 minutes.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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wow, I found out about this through my email and after reading the threads here, I'm a bit intimidated.

Kim
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [europhia] [ In reply to ]
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"wow, I found out about this through my email and after reading the threads here, I'm a bit intimidated."

welcome to our forum, and to slowtwitch! i think "a bit intimidated" is just about right. you don't grow very much -- in any endeavor -- if you're not taken out of your comfort zone by those around you who set the bar higher.

we certainly have those bar-setter-higher folks here. but in the true spirit of triathlon all abilities; all levels of commitment; are accepted and respected here. i think you'll be safe.


Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman

Is this still happening? I know it was originally slated to start tomorrow, the 15th.
As a beginner I would love to get involved for a little extra motivation. I ask because I still do not see it under the challenges.

Thanks
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [OldFart] [ In reply to ]
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I was wondering the same thing.

Its the things you do that you don't have to that make difference when its to late to do anything about them.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Bobwo] [ In reply to ]
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I just finished a 50 mile ride. Inquiring minds are wondering.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [xbaytri] [ In reply to ]
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Its up!!! I'm in first!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!! until somebody else joins that is...


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Jack
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Vagabond] [ In reply to ]
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Nope.
I joined and you are still first.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [OldFart] [ In reply to ]
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If anyone thinks anyone other than Mike Plumb is going to finish this with the most points...(of the people actually coming to the race, that is*...)...they've got another thing coming.



*methinks Dev is just in the challenge for fun...hard to see him at the start line...
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Are we there yet?
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [lrobb] [ In reply to ]
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Just posted my last workout. And while I didn't make it to the magical 2000 pt mark, the challenge did take my training to another level...though I come away amazed at how some folks squeeze it all in: training, work, family, eating, SLEEPING (?). (Btw, any other CPAs in the challenge?)

Congrats to all who participated and best of luck to everyone racing in Richmond.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [lrobb] [ In reply to ]
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I've got a 40 mile ride to do tonight, but even with that I'm going to fall just short of 1500 points. Oh well, this is my first year of training like this so I should just be happy I'm not injured.
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [Jamison] [ In reply to ]
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Well...I was WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY off above.

Quarter Horse has done some outstanding work. I have no idea who or how fast he/she is...but I know if I had done what is more than double my own effort these last two months....I'd be in serious contention for the overall. But I have no hope of putting in that kind of training time. I thought I was doing well being on track for a ~700 hour training year...with job and family in the balance.

Congrats to all who reached the 2000 pt mark set out by Slowman. For those who didn't, bring whatcha got anyway....Its all good!

See you all at the race!
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [lrobb] [ In reply to ]
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Currently at 757.9 points (behind by 1242.1 points)

oh well.. actually did more training than usual but nowhere near the 2000..
my du is the Barking Dog on 5/9, 5k/30k/5k, so we'll see then. PR on the course is 1:28 but last year was a Fail in 1:31.

Good luck to the Nationals racers.. I'll be in glamorous Tuscaloosa in August, for the other Nationals..
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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Are you still racing at nationals? I wish I had a little money to spare, but I can't really justify it right now with Carissa starting nursing school in the fall. On the positive side, I checked the splits on my 3rd overall at the Devil Dog Duathlon at the end of March and found the guy who ran 15:30 and 15:13 for the 5Ks last year ran 17:01 and 16:30 this year. That means my 18 and 19 flat 5Ks were probably more like 16:30 and 17:30 for an accurate 5K (the course was changed from previous years for construction). That leaves me hope to still go back and defend my title at the Orange County du at the end of May. Such are my humble goals these days with no money.

Good luck.

Chad
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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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Is there any award for the *least* amount of points? Cuz I think I've got that locked up.
I've got a ways to go to get my YTD avg back up over 5:xx hrs a week at this point.


float , hammer , and jog

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Re: Du Nationals Challenge [cdw] [ In reply to ]
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Oh...I'm all over nationals. I think I might actually have a little something for the boys this year...

;-)
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