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A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11!
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The is a rewrite. Unfortunately the firt attempt didn't go through.



I'm talking about the "tempo run." For those of you who already do it, this is nothing earth shattering or new. For the rest of you, this is your chance to make breakthroughs in your training.

In my observation, the tempo run seems to be very underated by many many athletes. Some people understand the importance of a long run. They get it. They feel like they have really accomplished something when they come home and the spouse says "you ran how far?!!" On the other end of the spectrum people go out to the track and hammer out 800 meter repeats (often too hard). They see very quick results (25 seconds faster than I was a month ago!!) and definitely feel the gains of the pain!

But what about the tempo run? Frankly I think it gets over looked by many people because it doesn't *seem* like a very productive workout. It's not real interesting, you don't run particuarly far or fast, and you normaly don't hurt a whole lot when it's all done. Yet, it may just be the most important workout you can do.

A "tempo run," as I use the term, is very simply a 20 to 40 minute sustained run at your lactate threshold (LT). Your LT is essentialy the pace at which your body begins to produce significantly more lactic acid making it harder and harder to run faster. People with high lactate thresholds do very well in endurance events (like Lance Armstrong).

EDIT: It's actually run at MLSS (Maximum Lactate Steady State) which is much faster than you Lactate Threshold.

Without taking into full account individuality, your LT pace should be roughly the pace that you can maintain for a 1 hour long race. For some it will be a 10 mile race. For others it may be a 10K.

WHAT, WHEN, and HOW OFTEN? Simply run (after a warmup) for at least 20 minutes at this pace. For those with a heart monitor, you should be somewhere between 85-92% of your max. Nevertheless, this run should feel comfortably hard. When you finish you should feel winded yet feel like you could have run several more miles at that pace.

This workout is very very important and should be done to some degree (typicaly once a week) througout most of the year. You won't see very immediate results, but the long term benefits are priceless.

I definitely recommend it for distances up to HIM (there is a pretty valid debate as to the tradeoffs of intensity vrs more aerobic running for the IM). I also recommend it for marathoners who are not merely looking to "finish" but to actualy "race" (finishers may benefit more from a second long run during the week).

HIGH VOLUME? INTERVALS? and now a TEMPO RUN?! ARE YOU CRAZY?!

Read very, very carefuly. When doing your run training, you want to spend some time building up your weekly mileage first. Once you are comfortable running these miles you can then add in a 20 minute tempo run. Eventualy you may extend this to 40 minutes (some go even further). Only after you've gotten yourself in good shape and your races are approaching should you add in interval training, and some may not want to add it in at all (slower runners, injury prone, those training for IM). The Interval training shouldn't last for more than several weeks and the sessions should not be killers.

Anecdote: My third year of college my coach started to have us do tempo runs very regularly. We did them before, but not religiously. It was after he had a long lunch meeting with the coach from Georgetown that he finaly decided to have us run a 6 mile tempo run every Thurdsday morning from September through April. To this day he says that was when his program really turned around.

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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I'd say more people would see better results by skipping the track all together and doing tempo runs almost every week of the year.

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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Totally agree. Most people don't know what the hell they are doing on a track (including me).
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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Amen! RIGHT ON, BarryP.
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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks again for the informative posts.

Wrapping all three together, at least in my mind. How much of the year should you spend at "Full mileage". It seems to me what yor saying, at least teh way I understand what your saying is Mileage build>Tempo>Interval.

Expanded a bit Build your mileage to a point. Add in the tempo run and hold until some point from away from your race(s) and then add in track work.

When do you start the build up of mileage? How long do you hold your peak mileage? And how long can you hold peak mileage with the tempo run?

This was probably covered in one of the other posts, but I may have missed it.

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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I still do track workout, but slowed them down significantly to 1.30/400. Sustained a minor injury.

That amounts to about my tempo run pace. Could not agree more about the tempo runs. Once a week I get out there and hammer out 6 miles or so at 168-172bpm.

Month left till the last race of the year, thank god, one more temp run thrown into the mix starting next week. Running frequently is still the best way to get faster, I don't care what distance you race.



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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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hmmmmm tempo runs....my favorite running workout :D

good reading barryP

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [MJuric] [ In reply to ]
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It depends on what you are training for. The longer your race, the more emphais you place on mileage and the less on intensity. If you are doing ironman training again this year then you likely won't want to do any interval training......though I don't pretend to be an expert in that arena. There are others who could give yoy better advice.



Regarding 5k, 10k, sprint, Oly....and to some extent HM and HIM:

I prefer 6 months of preparation. A training progression MAY look like this:

Month 1:

25 mile per week by end of month, long run up to 8 miles

Month 2:

build to 34 miles per week, long run up to 10 miles, 20 minute tempo runs

Month 3:

build to 40 miles per week, long run up to 12 miles, 25 minute tempo runs

Month 4:

40 miles per week, 12 mile LR, 30 minute TR, add some quick 200s on the track (not a hard workout)

Month 5:

30 to 35 miles per week, 9 mile LR, 30 minute TR, 6K of intervals OR a race

Month 6:

Same as month 5 except drop the long run and taper the last two weeks. Goal Race!

Month 7, repeat cycle.



Do you see how the mileage builds, but then you hit a plateau once you start adding some intensity and then eventualy the mileage comes down as you need time to recover from harder workouts and races.

The same philosophy applies no matter how long your buildup. However, anything longer than 8 months I'll add a mini peak in early. ie...I might try to train hard in October and November to run a local 5K race then start my build up in January for a summer peak instead of building up for 9 months straight.


EDIT: This may be a bit aggressive. I don't know how fast you run or how far you are used to. Multiply each month by a fraction if that helps give you a better picture.

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Barry, I know you run more miles than that. You dumbed it down for us volume shirkers. :-)

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Barry,

While I do not agree with everything you post, this post was [IMHO] one of your best.

Great points, tempo runs, when done correctly, will make not only make you faster but lessen the chance of injury one might garner from spending too much time at the track [too fast] : ) ! As you stated, the beauty is, you can pretty much do 'em year round once you've established a solid run foundation.

Best

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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The other important aspect of tempo runs is that when runners that haven't been doing them start, they see significant gains in pace at LT very quickly. In fact, studies show that "the rate of change in lactate threshold is fastest in the first 2-3 weeks of training".

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Another well written piece by BarryP and I'd like to add another vote of confidence for the tempo run.

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Are you trying to make it so that any gains in speed you make in cycling and swimming are offset by everyone else getting faster in the run?
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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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I totally agree.

Barry, am I a wuss if I am all about "cruise intervals" these days? Are they pretty much as good as tempo???

Example: Yesterday I did a 10-mile marathon tempo run: My GP is 6:50 (guess my stupid goal). The run went like this: 1 mi. EZ; 2 mi. GP; 3 mi. 'cruise' (6:10 pace) w/ 20-30 sec. jog/ shuffle; 3 mi. 'marathon' tempo (6:30 pace) 1.5 EZ ... It just seems so much easier to run real brisk miles a bit faster than tempo then catch my breath for < 30 sec. and do it again ... I admit I have never done more than 25-30 min. of nonstop tempo outside a race :-)
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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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In Reply To:

I definitely recommend it for distances up to HIM (there is a pretty valid debate as to the tradeoffs of intensity vrs more aerobic running for the IM). I also recommend it for marathoners who are not merely looking to "finish" but to actualy "race" (finishers may benefit more from a second long run during the week).

Only after you've gotten yourself in good shape and your races are approaching should you add in interval training, and some may not want to add it in at all (slower runners, injury prone, those training for IM). The Interval training shouldn't last for more than several weeks and the sessions should not be killers.


Coach Barry,

This is a good post. IMO running at tempo pace is about the only run intensity work that most triathletes need to do. I have found that by completely eliminating interval training from my run regimen and using only tempo and base pace running I have achieved superior gains as compared to the days when I was doing significant interval training. This has even been at distances as short as 3K; I may even have been faster at shorter events but I have not raced less than 3K in several years.

I think the other benefit of tempo as compared to interval running is that it is harder to screw up. Besides the fact that intervals are more polish than foundation to training, their greatest danger is that they are often done much too hard for the athletes given fitness. Since the pace is slower and tempo running is done on the roads (rather than a measured track) there is less of a tendency to "race" the workout. It is much easier to focus on the correct effort when there is not measured distance to benchmark.

For a well trained athleter tempo running will be very close to a HIM run (when the bike is properly paced) in terms of effort and heart rate.

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [Tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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I'm right with you Yoda! In fact, I've also PRd several races this year doing this (i.e. lots of long base runs and tempo runs only except some mile repeats since I have an upcoming marathon). This also surprised me when I ran a PR (well, recent age anyway) off this with no intervals. I'm done with those and track work for sure!

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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Great advice BarryP. I think that the tempo run is THE MOST important run of the week. I start at 20' and build to 60' (friggin' tough session, in my base and early build). Then in my later build, I like to do two repeats, say 2x20' or 2x30' with up to 5' recovery between. This is also a good way to build tempo running volume if an athlete does not want to run 40+' continuous.

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [Tri_yoda] [ In reply to ]
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but there is nothing to preclude doing them on the track, right? I'm just learning how to do these runs so for my first few allows a steady consistent surface.

Hopefully in a few weeks I will have my pace dialled in and can continue from there.


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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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These are also my favorite runs, mainly because I get to feel kind of fast, run a fair distance, and it's easy for me to see where my fitness is.

Is there any reason to not do this more than once a week? I prefer it to the track, since I can just walk out my front door and do it.

Thanks for the posts -- I enjoy reading them and find them useful.

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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When I do a brick, I make my transition run a tempo run.

Bad idea to do this after a long bike?
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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [el fuser] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you for your posts Barry! very helpful

now if i can just get some resident experts in cycling and swimming to break things down like this for me...;p
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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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good stuff Barry, During IM build I like top throw some tempo into my long runs (z3 and start to creep up into 4 by the last one)...maybe a main set tempo as 20'tempo/10 easy/30 tempo/10 easy/40 tempo/easy cool down. Its a TOUGH long run and you can get some good race efforts.

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [kdw] [ In reply to ]
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Are you trying to make it so that any gains in speed you make in cycling and swimming are offset by everyone else getting faster in the run?
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I'm hoping someone will start writting similar posts on cycling and swimming (in addition to Stern and Sousa).

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [BarryP] [ In reply to ]
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That's what I was looking for. Thanks.

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Re: A VERY IMPORTANT WORKOUT THAT MIGHT BE MISSING IN YOUR ROUTINE....NEWS AT 11! [TBinMT] [ In reply to ]
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am I a wuss if I am all about "cruise intervals" these days? Are they pretty much as good as tempo???
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Crusie intervals are, IMO, a great substitute. Just make sure you don't use the 30 second breaks so that you can hammer harder. They should feel more like "mental" breaks.

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