Many references to sleeves on the swim, most say there is no restriction, but ymmv. I have a Castilli sleeved and never gave me issue under a suit...never swam in just the kit, though I will have to at Worlds in sept. Chatty is a fun race, great city. Enjoy!

If you want the aero advantage of sleeves, your sleeves need to be tight. If your sleeves are tight, they will restrict your swim.

I roll my PI suit down and cover the sleeves with body glide. It slides on nicely from swim exit to bike.

Thanks for the input. Glad to hear another vote for Chatty as a fun race - looking forward to it!

That sounds like a good solution but if I stick w/a 2-piece I won't be able to do that. Sounding like I may just need to get one and try it out to see how it feels on me. Thanks.

I have the M2 and the Spyder. Both are fine under a wetsuit. Tight on the arms does not mean inflexible.

Agreed.

I've got the new Fusion SLi speedsuit and it's tight to the point of mild compression, but strangely very flexible swimming in.

In fact I just tested it vs my swimskin and it came out equal or 1sec/100m faster. Seems their new material is more hydro and water wicking and much lighter so for me it now replaces the need for a swimskin.

Anyone shopping for a new Race suit I'd recommend they check out Fusions SLi kit in part of their considerations.

Swim with two piece sleeved Desoto tri-kit under my wetsuit without any issue. Heck, one can even purchase sleeved swimming pool tops and practice such a setup during your indoor pool swims.

I am going back to racing in a one piece non-sleeves. Although this time rear zip.

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Thanks everyone - appreciate the input/suggestions! Will check out the Fusion. Good to know the ones I'm considering will work well too.

Thomas - curious as to why you are going back to one piece sleeveless. Convenience? Comfort? Testing?

Be absolutely certain to check out Kiwami too. The new colors and materials are amazing, and sleeve or no sleeve. Although I prefer 1 piece, the new aero 2 piece are really nice and sleeves are no issue to swim in if you so desire. The 1 piece is only connected at the back, so is somewhat a "hybrid". The Spider is the only suit I know that has extra compression on the legs which feels awesome to me during the late stages of races when legs are fading. Just my opinion, but after looking at most of the others, Kiwami is a big step ahead.

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Testing both swim and bike. I also think a lot of people who test fast in a sleeved suit on the bike, many pros have not, also need to go back and test the suit 3 month later after use. I do think these suits stretch and become unaero. I knew after testing a specific piece on Wednesday when Brian came out of the control room that something was up. He wasn't talking. Almost like not to bias me for the next suit that we were testing next. But regardless the suit that test fast was also new and tight.

To some degree I think suits are going to be like chains. Limited lifespan. Which is why I brought up the UglyFrog suit last month that is $48 for sleeved. If it tests fast, who cares if it only lasts 3 races. 3 races might be what all these suits last anyway before they start to loose their aeroness. I have data coming out and some point but I am well behind on stuff.

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Whats the chamois like on that UglyFrog suit?

No idea, I didn't pick one up because I didn't know if I would be at a SHIPTO address by the time it arrived. I was going to circle back around on this thread though and see what others said. Sounds like a few people had picked them up and may have more feedback now.

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Chattanooga will be my first full distance IM. wasn't the first year of it wetsuit legal? We can hope again but doubtful. We can at least hope it's not as hot as last year

it boggles the mind that this needs to be said again and again

I was at a local tri today and *everybody* had their sleeves on, but then again they were all bottom of the barrel fabrics/cuts/brands

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