Login required to started new threads

Login required to post replies

Prev Next
open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float
Quote | Reply
taking cost out of the equation for the time being.... looking at the Swim IT ($125-145) (http://www.theswimit.com/home.html) or the TriSports Safe Swimmer float ($45) (http://www.trisports.com/ishof-safeswim.html)

I've been doing a lot of open water swimming and some days the ocean is pretty rough. I used to fear those days and now I enjoy them - almost like skiing moguls combined with body surfing. I almost always swim alone. While I have finally become really comfortable in the ocean, I can see that this could be dangerous- for example, how a mis-timed breath could accidentally result in water aspiration, possibility for exhaustion or how even a jellyfish sting could even result in anaphylaxis, etc.

I try to always wear a bright yellow swim cap to avoid any errant boaters. (we have a "swim lane" that is supposed to be boat free but there are still kayakers, SUP's and even the paddling teams that occasionally encroach or cross paths.

One feature I see for the Safe Swimmer float is a place put a water bottle (tho I can go for an hour w/o a drink!) or even a GoPro (to catch the dolphins). Safety feature, as well, re visibility. One disadvantage is having to inflate it each time (too big to store inflated in my trunk). Also, another bulky thing to haul around? If inflated with a pump, yet another piece of gear needed. Most of our free divers do tow a dive float, so doing something for OWS would not look completely bizarre. Biggest downside I see is need to inflate it each time?

Swim IT seems like a great idea- as long as you are conscious and able to inflate it when needed (i.e., an arrhythmia with sudden death = no use. Then again, if you are 500 yds from shore and alone, you're dead anyway). It can't be used to "rest", it doesn't contribute to visibility. It is really just for "emergency" use. On the plus side, doesn't add a lot of bulk to gear bag. Also, adds almost no "prep time" to your workout- just strap it on. Comfort might be an issue? Especially if you have short-ish thighs?

Does anyone have any experience with either device? Comfort? SS float interfering with stroke? As "just" an emergency device, Swim IT seems reasonable. The float seems like a more useful device as it (seems to me that it) will assist visibility, can be used for "resting", can be used to carry some gear, etc.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Safe swimmer float is what I use when swimming alone parallel to the shoreline where a family member lives on the lake. I really do not notice the drag of the device and it does make me more visible in the water which is a good thing. The comments about inflating it are non-sense as it doesn't really take much to use your own lungs to do the job. One can put whatever they need in the dry compartment.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [Billyk24] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
re inflate- the "comments" were actually my questions, not statements. From pic on trisports.com kinda hard to tell how big it really is and how much it actually takes to inflate it. Sorry if that was not clear. Since I swim about 3x/week and would need to inflate/deflate before/after each swim, just didn';t know how big of a PITA that really was. (I get really tired of blowing up the sex doll, afterall. Wanted to make sure I still had enough strength and lung power left for the actual swim)
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
This is what I use:
http://www.getmyfloat.com/


Seriously, it's one of the best pieces of tri equipment I have. I do all my OWS alone, and I carry my sandals, car keys, even iPhone in this thing. Runkeeper will track my swim through the drybag, since it stays on the surface of the water. It stores completely flat, inflates and does up in seconds, and just does its job really well. Highly recommend.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [surroundhound] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
My chief concern in looking for a float is for visibility for safety when swimming alone or with a friend on shore, and sometimes a safe/dry place to put my stuff.

I bought a 20L bright yellow dry bag for $25, attached a webbing strap with a buckle to it and it works great. I've thought about the benefit of having handles like on the specific floats, but I have other places to spend my pennies.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
It is slightly larger than a football when inflated. I use one. The biggest advantage over the swim it is that it is bright orange and floats behind you. The swim it is invisible until deployed via co2. Drag is not a factor.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [jlee565] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
AWESOME answers and info. Thanks guys (gals). Knew I could count on ST. Lots of very clever folks.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
For my open ocean training swims, I feel safest dragging this behind me. My concern is swimming into a rip when exhausted.

Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
I have been using the Safe Swimmer for about a year. It was $45 well spent.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [Snapper10] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
+1
We have 2 safer swimmers and would not OWS out side of a race without them. Not much drag. Can be a "dry" bag for carrying stuff (I would be worried about non waterproof electronics though). While it is not a PFD, it is able to keep me afloat as long as I can hold on to it. Our first one has lasted 3 years and is still going strong.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [Mell] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Mell wrote:
My chief concern in looking for a float is for visibility for safety when swimming alone or with a friend on shore, and sometimes a safe/dry place to put my stuff.

I bought a 20L bright yellow dry bag for $25, attached a webbing strap with a buckle to it and it works great. I've thought about the benefit of having handles like on the specific floats, but I have other places to spend my pennies.
Same here, dry bag, red/orange. I have a safety device for OWS, and a dry bag for other activities. Better also than leaving my keys on beach.

Francois-Xavier Li @FrancoisLi
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." George Bernard Shaw
http://www.swimrunfrance.fr
http://www.worldofswimrun.com
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
I use something similar to the float that I bought through Clever Training via DC Rainmaker. I had my wife stand on shore the first time I used it and she was amazed at how visible I was, even from far away. It also acts a a float for my fat ass (almost 200 pounds), which gives me extra peace of mind should I ever get in trouble.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [TRIing2Run] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Curious if any of the pulling along an inflatable crowd uses it in the rough ocean the OP is describing. That doesn't sound fun.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [Breezie] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
What's the brand name for your float?
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [chris948] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
I've used it on rough days in the Chesapeake Bay, you know it's there when you swim into the waves but it isn't a big deal. When the water is calm, I don't even notice it.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
http://orca.com/us-en/safety-buoy/

Kurt Luoni
US Sales Manager
Orca Wetsuits
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [Snapper10] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Snapper10 wrote:
I have been using the Safe Swimmer for about a year. It was $45 well spent.


http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/06/safer-swimmer-review.html


Ray's review of it.
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
ISHOF sells direct. They have an "H2O" version that allows you to carry a bottle with you.

http://www.saferswimmer.com/phone/index.html

___________________________________________
http://en.wikipedia.org/...eoesophageal_fistula
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_palsy
2020 National Masters Champion - M40-44 - 400m IM
Canadian Record Holder 35-39M & 40-44M - 200 m Butterfly (LCM)
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
I only swim OW and i use the Safe Swimmer. it can lag and pull a bit if you keep the leash long on rough water but i love the floating aspect of it. i rarely deflate it and it can get a little moldy on the inside and i actually had one leak but the manufacturer replaced it very easily. i really have no complaints and use it 3-4 times a week all year long. i'm on my second one.

http://harvestmoon6.blogspot.com
https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/katasmit


Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [chris948] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
chris948 wrote:
Curious if any of the pulling along an inflatable crowd uses it in the rough ocean the OP is describing. That doesn't sound fun.
I do. No big deal, barely notice it

Francois-Xavier Li @FrancoisLi
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." George Bernard Shaw
http://www.swimrunfrance.fr
http://www.worldofswimrun.com
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
I have the safer swimmer as well and love it. I put my car keys in it and my sandals in case I need to walk back. I can blow it in 2-3 breath so blowing it not an issue. It comes in 2 sizes and I have the bigger of the 2 and I can fit sandals(crock style), t-shirt and a small towel in it.

Cheers,
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
thanks for all the info and leads.
After review, I decided to purchase the MyFloat (http://www.getmyfloat.com/).
It is pretty similar to all the others EXCEPT that it has "straps". In addition to being easier to grab in an emergency, I thought that the straps would be a good place to attach a whistle to. Also, I could even clip a camera to the straps so it is easily accessible if I wanted to bring one along. (Currently just stuff a GoPro in my shorts- I can either look like a porn star or like I have a full diaper).

The straps were the only significant difference between this float and the few other floats people listed. The new Safe Swimmer had a large outside pocket- another options but seems less secure for something like a camera. The color of the MyFloat is yellow vs. most of the others which are orange. The MyFloat was a few bucks ($~20) more than the other floats but amortized over the amount of use it will get, that is pretty insignificant.

I think the REAL LESSON here is that it is probably better to use SOME device for solo OWS than NO device. While training deaths for experienced OWS's is probably low, there are a lot of things that can go wrong and even being just a hundred yards from shore is too far to easily be noticed or expect a timely rescue. Also, the risk of getting hit/run over is certainly real for many venues. Certainly true for where I swim in Kailua Bay.

Thanks again to everyone who replied.
Quote Reply
Post deleted by h2ofun [ In reply to ]
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [DrAloha] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Like many products I see, they are both good, but could do with some more development.

I see that having to blow it up yourself can be an issue. CO2 inflators are small & cheap enough (look and the inflatable life vests on the market)

I do like the storage idea tho, for keys, phone etc. Better than leaving them in the car or hidden somewhere.

TriDork

"Happiness is a myth. All you can hope for is to get laid once in a while, drunk once in a while and to eat chocolate every day"
Quote Reply
Re: open water safety devices: Swim IT vs. Safe Swimmer float [tridork] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
You blow it up BEFORE you get in the water.
Quote Reply

Prev Next