Dear forumites, I don't do tri's anymore because running is hard because of a bad back. I bike a lot, run some, and do Crossfit currently. I'm 58 yo. Any tips on cardio-vascular / aerobic training? It's not quite what it was ten years ago and I'm not ready to just give it up to aging. Thanks!
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Re: Training advice for men over 50 [tpolitzer]
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Re: Training advice for men over 50 [tpolitzer]
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tpolitzer wrote:
Dear forumites, I don't do tri's anymore because running is hard because of a bad back. I bike a lot, run some, and do Crossfit currently. I'm 58 yo. Any tips on cardio-vascular / aerobic training? It's not quite what it was ten years ago and I'm not ready to just give it up to aging. Thanks!Uh, you gave up running because you have a bad back but you are doing crossfit. Something does not compute.
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Re: Training advice for men over 50 [bhc]
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Hi,
I go light with Crossfit and really good form. The repetitive motion of running is what gets to my back. I can still trail run for up to an hour, so may start doing Xterra's again.
I go light with Crossfit and really good form. The repetitive motion of running is what gets to my back. I can still trail run for up to an hour, so may start doing Xterra's again.
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [tpolitzer]
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Just keep going!
David
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Re: Training advice for men over 50 [david]
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david wrote:
Just keep going!/\ /\ /\ /\...this. And find your way to a pool...
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Re: Training advice for men over 50 [mdtrihard]
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mdtrihard wrote:
s.......w......i......m......Do some serious tempo work on the bike all year long. I don't let my fitness fall off as much in the winter because it is so hard to get it back! 2x20 at about 85% of FTP a few times a week.
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [tpolitzer]
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Ultra's................Seriously. Swim to keep hr up and core. Most Ultra's can be completed walking/running. 15 min mile is a good pace.
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [tpolitzer]
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If you can do the repetitions of cross fit arguably with higher force per rep but can't for running, perhaps you don't have proper spinal/bone alignment and your gait is off. Perhaps you need to do a lot of core strengthening exercises on one leg at a time which will force your spine into the proper alignment. Watch the top runners in the world and they are 100% symmetrical. Watch any marathon from 3 hours onwards and lots of swaying and twisting and hunching. Where is your head relative to your body...is it rolling around on your neck....it is a really heavy weight. If you can run "a bit" then eventually you can "run a lot" assuming that you're not slightly alignment on each stride. I've coached a few guys in 60-69 to really strong IM finishes, but both have pretty good symmetry while running. Not always the fastest guys out there, but age graded, they are awesome and could handle decent running workloads, but they had better overall run form than many younger guys who will not be able to run when they get to that age.
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [tpolitzer]
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I'm 61.
Two things have helped my running:
1. Taking Galloway walk breaks on my long runs to help protect my joints.
2. Losing 25lbs.
Mark
Two things have helped my running:
1. Taking Galloway walk breaks on my long runs to help protect my joints.
2. Losing 25lbs.
Mark
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [tpolitzer]
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8 hrs sleep on average every night.
Limit training to 15 hrs a week, bumping that up to 20 max building to full distance tris.
Swim a lot, bike a lot, run less.
Well balanced diet with limited red meat, no soft drinks, no junk/fried/fatty foods.
It works for me.
Limit training to 15 hrs a week, bumping that up to 20 max building to full distance tris.
Swim a lot, bike a lot, run less.
Well balanced diet with limited red meat, no soft drinks, no junk/fried/fatty foods.
It works for me.
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [arby]
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Hi everyone,
I am loving this advice! Feel free to keep it coming.
Thanks!
I am loving this advice! Feel free to keep it coming.
Thanks!
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [Redcorvette]
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Redcorvette wrote:
I'm 61. Taking Galloway walk breaks on my long runs to help protect my joints.
*Citation required
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [mdtrihard]
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mdtrihard wrote:
s.......w......i......m......No doubt.
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [tpolitzer]
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63 yrs old here. Haven't done a tri for three years. My back is fine but I've more or less given up running except for with my dog on the nature trails. Still bike regularly and swim moderately. For aerobic you can't beat x-country skiing if you live in a northern clime. For indoor replace the tread mill with an elliptical. I'm thinking about trying cross fit btw.
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [cerveloguy]
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63 yrs old here. Haven't done a tri for three years. My back is fine but I've more or less given up running except for with my dog on the nature trails. Still bike regularly and swim moderately. For aerobic you can't beat x-country skiing if you live in a northern clime. For indoor replace the tread mill with an elliptical. I'm thinking about trying cross fit btw.I hope you enjoy Crossfit. I really have enjoyed it. I come from a power lifting background. I had to leave my ego at the door because everyone was stronger than I was and I really wanted to just concentrate on some fitness. I've kept the weight on the lighter side and with good form. It has actually helped me heal a few injuries, e.g. chronic sore shoulder from multiple separations from bike crashes.
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [TunaBoo]
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TunaBoo wrote:
Redcorvette wrote:
I'm 61. Taking Galloway walk breaks on my long runs to help protect my joints.
*Citation required
I can offer my N=1 experience:
Chronic patella tendinosis in my left knee and degenerative Achilles tendinosis in both legs (tore my left Achilles in 2010 and was laid up for nine months). Also starting to develop some arthritis in my left hip. My orthopedic surgeon tried to talk me into giving up running completely after I tore my Achilles. At the minimum he got me to agree to give up any sports that require sudden changes of direction, starts or stops or jumping, i.e., basketball, tennis, softball, etc.
Started doing the Galloway thing when I was rehabbing the Achilles. Can't run more than about four to five miles without walk breaks or I'm too sore to run for two-three days. Taking the walk breaks lets me run four days per week.
Mark
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Redcorvette: Nov 22, 14 16:08
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [Redcorvette]
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I agree totally on the Galloway method. I'm a 66M and slowly improved my running fitness with this method. No injuries so far. At this point, no "run walk" for my 5K runs, but I incorporate it into my 10K runs.
Re: Training advice for men over 50 [mdtrihard]
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mdtrihard wrote:
s.......w......i......m......+2
arby wrote:
8 hrs sleep on average every night.Really?
For me 5 hours seem to be enough. I hate to stay in bed when I'm awake ... why waste time?
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