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Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [Devlin]
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Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [Staz]
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Staz wrote:
I think I see what you're saying now. You're saying that money overrode their "ethics" meaning that they don't actual exist but rather that they will do what they have to to maximize their revenue.Exactly.
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Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [JSully]
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JSully wrote:
Devlin wrote:
rhys wrote:
I'm torn. I dont really care about cycling problem, nor NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL...all sports entertainment to me. But when this cheating comes to my start lines I think we should be taking a stand and rid ourselves of pre-meditated, clearly "Tier 1" doping with life bans. By tier 1 I refer to blood boosting, HGH etc. clear intended PEDs. Especially in these, I will call more educated times in sport. Ie: post Barry Bonds, Lance etc where public far more aware of the cheating.
You either care about clean sport or you don't.
I have a poem for you:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Prime example of "I don't give a damn about anything until it affects me" attitude.
John
I don't think sports and people ending up in gas chambers are quite on the same scale. It seems a touch disrespectful to compare the two.
For those scoring at home, Godwin's Law was evolked on the ninth post. Not bad.
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Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [pattersonpaul]
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Looked it up on wiki...learned something new today...thank you!
Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [rbuike]
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Exactly.
"When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck." - James Whitcomb Riley
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yeah, but it could be a swan, and we --- ah, fuckit there are black swans
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Hughson CA
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Exactly.
"When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck." - James Whitcomb Riley
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yeah, but it could be a swan, and we --- ah, fuckit there are black swans
.
RayGovett
Hughson CA
Be Prepared-- Strike Swiftly -- Who Dares Wins- Without warning-"it will be hard. I can do it"
Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [pattersonpaul]
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pattersonpaul wrote:
JSully wrote:
Devlin wrote:
rhys wrote:
I'm torn. I dont really care about cycling problem, nor NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL...all sports entertainment to me. But when this cheating comes to my start lines I think we should be taking a stand and rid ourselves of pre-meditated, clearly "Tier 1" doping with life bans. By tier 1 I refer to blood boosting, HGH etc. clear intended PEDs. Especially in these, I will call more educated times in sport. Ie: post Barry Bonds, Lance etc where public far more aware of the cheating.
You either care about clean sport or you don't.
I have a poem for you:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Prime example of "I don't give a damn about anything until it affects me" attitude.
John
I don't think sports and people ending up in gas chambers are quite on the same scale. It seems a touch disrespectful to compare the two.
For those scoring at home, Godwin's Law was evolked on the ninth post. Not bad.
To continue the theme I will be a grammar nazi and inform you that the word evolk doesn't exist and you must have meant invoke.
Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [JSully]
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JSully wrote:
Devlin wrote:
rhys wrote:
I'm torn. I dont really care about cycling problem, nor NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL...all sports entertainment to me. But when this cheating comes to my start lines I think we should be taking a stand and rid ourselves of pre-meditated, clearly "Tier 1" doping with life bans. By tier 1 I refer to blood boosting, HGH etc. clear intended PEDs. Especially in these, I will call more educated times in sport. Ie: post Barry Bonds, Lance etc where public far more aware of the cheating.
You either care about clean sport or you don't.
I have a poem for you:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Prime example of "I don't give a damn about anything until it affects me" attitude.
John
I don't think sports and people ending up in gas chambers are quite on the same scale. It seems a touch disrespectful to compare the two.
It is a polarizing bit of verse, I will agree. However, it's been used many times in many settings to show the dangers of not speaking out against something until it affects you personally.
John
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Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [Staz]
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Staz wrote:
pattersonpaul wrote:
JSully wrote:
Devlin wrote:
rhys wrote:
I'm torn. I dont really care about cycling problem, nor NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL...all sports entertainment to me. But when this cheating comes to my start lines I think we should be taking a stand and rid ourselves of pre-meditated, clearly "Tier 1" doping with life bans. By tier 1 I refer to blood boosting, HGH etc. clear intended PEDs. Especially in these, I will call more educated times in sport. Ie: post Barry Bonds, Lance etc where public far more aware of the cheating.
You either care about clean sport or you don't.
I have a poem for you:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Prime example of "I don't give a damn about anything until it affects me" attitude.
John
I don't think sports and people ending up in gas chambers are quite on the same scale. It seems a touch disrespectful to compare the two.
For those scoring at home, Godwin's Law was evolked on the ninth post. Not bad.
To continue the theme I will be a grammar nazi and inform you that the word evolk doesn't exist and you must have meant invoke.
I misspelled "evoked", it doesn't have an "L".
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evoke
Find out what it is in life that you don't do well, then don't
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Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [Devlin]
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And it's used inappropriately every time it comes up.
Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [Quantum]
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Quantum wrote:
And it's used inappropriately every time it comes up.Yes, god forbid we ever mention anything to do with the Holocaust or the writings thereof. We might (gasp) offend someone.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
John
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Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [Devlin]
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Devlin wrote:
Yes, god forbid we ever mention anything to do with the Holocaust or the writings thereof. We might (gasp) offend someone. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
John
And those who did not pay attention in historyclass are doomed to use it totally out of context...
Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [rhys]
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Helle Frederiksen, who finished 2nd behind Hütthaler on Saturday, summarizes mine and many others thoughts perfectly in her video report after the race.
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Re: EPOer Hutthaler European Champion [BLeP]
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BLeP wrote:
That's a man, baby.
Just trying to figure this out.
I'm Canadian. So most of Americans by default think I'm a socialist because I believe in universal health care
I'm a banker though, and as such clearly a capitalist! But given I am in retail not investment banking I'd say a liberal capitalist.
I am raised Salvation Army from valley of Wales and as such my mom would say Jew, German, Jehovah Witness, Muslim and even; yes, English, we are equal and all one.
So I really hAve no idea what you're trying to say. Given the context from where I come from. I do know this....life is grey. Know as much as you can to make informed decisions. And do our best to share wisdom. Never hate. And don't be late! You'll do all right from there!
It's just sport mate! Just don't start mine doped!!
@rhyspencer
I'm Canadian. So most of Americans by default think I'm a socialist because I believe in universal health care
I'm a banker though, and as such clearly a capitalist! But given I am in retail not investment banking I'd say a liberal capitalist.
I am raised Salvation Army from valley of Wales and as such my mom would say Jew, German, Jehovah Witness, Muslim and even; yes, English, we are equal and all one.
So I really hAve no idea what you're trying to say. Given the context from where I come from. I do know this....life is grey. Know as much as you can to make informed decisions. And do our best to share wisdom. Never hate. And don't be late! You'll do all right from there!
It's just sport mate! Just don't start mine doped!!
@rhyspencer