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felt IA FRD rear brake issue
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Anybody else had problems with there rear brake hanging up/locking up on their IA FRD. The brake was changed, . the cable changed, barrel adjuster removed. Still doing it. Pull on the brake and the brake is not returning to the open position and the brake lever has play in it. It is Di2. You can push on the brake slide and it will open back up but that is under the bike. Shop has been trying numerous things. Any ideas would help
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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I find mine sometimes locks up if I've been riding on wet or damp roads, just a small amount of grit is enough to stop it from releasing. Obviously the positioning of the brake close to the road surface has a lot to do with this, and the grit is hard to remove without actually getting in there and wiping it off.

I gave my brake an overhaul recently. Just took it out, cleaned it, and also took the return spring/bar cresent shape thing (whatever it is called), bent it to more of a half-cresent shape, then put it back in. Opening this up should help it return a lot better. It's been magic ever since. Taking the return out also opens it up a lot more for cleaning. Give it a crack!

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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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What did u end up doing to fix the problem, I tried bending the spring, but it seems like it's the cable not wanting to return into the housing. It's my second cable. It's doing it on my ia and my wife's ia.
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [jwrdds] [ In reply to ]
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Contact Ron Schmid at Frazier bikes frazier mi. at 586 294 4070. It took him quite a while to solve the problem. That was in oct. have many miles on the bike down here in florida no problems
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Do you know what he did?
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [jwrdds] [ In reply to ]
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not exactly but it did he did use one of shimano's most expensive cables
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [jwrdds] [ In reply to ]
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jwrdds wrote:
What did u end up doing to fix the problem, I tried bending the spring, but it seems like it's the cable not wanting to return into the housing. It's my second cable. It's doing it on my ia and my wife's ia.

99% of the time it is cable housing related.
When that is not the issue, be certain the brake wasn't compressed fully by hand as it could set the spring. Be sure the spring "tips" are ~94mm apart when relaxed.
Ensure the brake roller/trolly is clean and dry in the track.

-SD

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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Not IA but had that on my road bike after brake upgrade.
The housing was about half inch to long for the new brake which lead to the probs you mention.
Once shortened to the right length, so being more straight than slightly bented, helped 100%

-shoki
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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can you fit a eebrake on the rear of a IA?
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [jwrdds] [ In reply to ]
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jwrdds wrote:
can you fit a eebrake on the rear of a IA?

It is possible without the rear brake cover installed and using linkage cable housing I presume. It is not a task I'd take on without the resources of a bicycle fabrication facility.
-SD

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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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With the cam surface on my brake arms there's a couple sections where the finish has started to come off. Is there anything that can be applied to them to add back the finish in those areas?

It's occurred from grit getting into them riding in the occasional rainy weather which unfortunately is unavoidable where I live.
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [DGleeson] [ In reply to ]
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DGleeson wrote:
With the cam surface on my brake arms there's a couple sections where the finish has started to come off. Is there anything that can be applied to them to add back the finish in those areas?

It's occurred from grit getting into them riding in the occasional rainy weather which unfortunately is unavoidable where I live.

Keep chain lube on the rollers and dry lube on the slider and arms.
The wear items are also replaceable if needed.

-SD

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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Great, I'll give that a try. Thanks Dave.
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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I had the same problem and noticed that it didn't happen when the aero brake cover was removed. I tried with aero cover on but loosened slightly. Fixed it for me. Cover is still secure.
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [badoherty] [ In reply to ]
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I put a shim on each bolt of the fairing and that gave it just enough clearance to not hinder the brake. Without the shims, when tightened down the fairing pushes on the brake. This in turn does not let it fully release
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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I am in Boulder, CO this week, brought my 4 week old Felt IA4 to ride. It has rained everyday and they have more sand/grit here than every beach in Florida, Texas, California combined. My front and back brakes have locked up. Back is worse than front. Took it to a local shop to have them fix (replace cables/housing). To me this shouldn't happen period. A bike is meant to be ridden, in pretty much any condition, yet the first days it meets rain and sand, it locks up.

I guess my question is that is it the rain/sand/grit or were the brake cables/housing bent or not installed correctly? Is the new Shimano $20 cable/housing the answer?

Sorry for the rant, I do really love the Felt IA bike, it rides great, just pi$$ed that I have to take it in for service already.
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [Tell3131] [ In reply to ]
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I've had my IA FRD for a year + and I have the same EXACT issues you have. Rain especially causes havoc w my rear brake. Cable housing is not the issue I have found.

Seems like gunk and sand and moisture get inside the rear brake housing and the brakes lock up. Local shop removed the rear brake cover and cleaned it out which helped but I do my best to avoid the rAin. Stinks but that's the way it is it seEmS

We tried to install dura ace brakes but the felt brakes are proprietary and nothing else can be installed.
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [bluesmachine] [ In reply to ]
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After returning from florida in may I got caught in a couple michigan rains and the rear brake lock up again. Took it all apart cleaned everything still locking up. Back to Fraizer bike they tried everything including ordering new parts [slider ,spring] still did not work right. Finally I asked them to borrow a whole rear brake off one of the Felts on their showroom floor. Fixed...... now I do not know if my brake was bad from the start and they got it to work by luck the first time..............but with the brake detached from the cable it did not work right. I am hoping the whole new brake solved the problem. I have not had any problems with my front brake [knock on wood] Once the brake starts locking up the only way to free it with the cover on is to bounce the rear wheel on the pavement and do not use the rear brake
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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1) My LBS just got a stronger spring from felt... that helped a bit.
2) After rain last weekend, I had the same thing. one thing we noticed is that there is a fair amount of friction coming from the metal arch that goes on top of the pivot arms. We made sure to clean that out (and things got better). For now there is a little grease, but next up is finding an appropriate delrin washer to sit between those two parts. I think that should give it a smoother surface.

I should mention, Im still not perfect yet... but slowly getting better. Also, Im curious about seeing if the bontrager direct mounts would fit... they seem narrower than the shimano
Last edited by: dcohen24: Jul 9, 15 6:52
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [dcohen24] [ In reply to ]
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So, on their highest-end triathlon bike, Felt has fitted a proprietary rear brake that is difficult to adjust and set up, is liable to gunk up in inclement weather, and then (!) fitted it under the chain stays so it gunks up faster and more often??

Has the world gone completely barmy? Aren't brakes a fundamental safety item?

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Last edited by: Barchettaman: Jul 9, 15 6:57
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [Barchettaman] [ In reply to ]
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Brakes should be moved away from the bottom bracket and put back on the seat tube like the Venge

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Last edited by: BryanD: Jul 9, 15 7:09
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
Brakes should be moved away from the bottom bracket and put back on the seat tube like the Venge

x2... it is just a PITA to work with those brake and if something goes wrong on race day then u are pretty much fucked

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [LuisDF] [ In reply to ]
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On my local group ride, the rider in front of me had a rear brake on the bottom bracket. It was interesting to watch how close the wheel came to the brake pads as the wheel flexed a bit. It just seems like a terrible place for a brake. Chris Yu at Specialized mentioned the airflow accelerates under the bottom bracket and a bottom bracket brake may not be as aero as people once thought. Not only that, with their wheel flex measurements, they pretty much confirmed that it's a terrible place for a brake.

Industry designers reading this thread....please move the brakes

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Last edited by: BryanD: Jul 9, 15 7:41
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
On my local group ride, the rider in front of me had a rear brake on the bottom bracket. It was interesting to watch how close the wheel came to the brake pads as the wheel flexed a bit. It just seems like a terrible place for a brake. Chris Yu at Specialized mentioned the airflow accelerates under the bottom bracket and a bottom bracket brake may not be as aero as people once thought. Not only that, with their wheel flex measurements, they pretty much confirmed that it's a terrible place for a brake.

Industry designers reading this thread....please move the brakes

don't get me going with my shiv bottom bracket brake... PITA x100000000000000

The entire event (IM) is like "death by 1000 cuts" and the best race is minimizing all those cuts and losing less blood than the other guy. - Dev
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Re: felt IA FRD rear brake issue [LuisDF] [ In reply to ]
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Under the BB brake on the Speed Concept 9 (2012 model in my case) seems to work great, but there is a pretty big cover that fits over it to protect it.. :)
Last edited by: gibson00: Jul 9, 15 9:51
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