Art, I did a ocean swim in booties today. The water was 58, what a great wake up!. The booties were surfer type, with a split toe and velcro straps to keep it tight. They worked well. My pals toes froze, mine were tostie. I drag my legs., only a weak kick every now and then. My feet did float higher in the water so my kick was a very little weird, but not bad. There was zero sloshing of water and I AM glad I got them. I will continue the winter using them. Oh yeah, the best investment continues to be a squid lid, you should get one for alcatraz. It does stop brain freeze! I was in the water for 40 min or so and comforaable until the last 5 min. Good luck

Steve