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Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists
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I have a Cervelo R3 Team Edition Road Cycle. I think it's a 2012 or 2013 model with Fulcrum Racing T wheels. The bike seems to climb very well, but it lacks the roll speed on flats and downhill. I am on the lighter side (135lbs), but I am looking for something that gives the bike more roll speed but I don't want to lose anything on climb. I don't know a lot about the Fulcrum wheels, but is it worth the upgrade to grab the Zipp 202's or another wheel that will give me more roll speed but still be great on climbs?

Anyone have any experience with these or advice?
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [CTex65] [ In reply to ]
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AFAIK, those Racing Ts are similar to a Racing 7 wheel.


If I wanted to improve my "roll", I'd first make sure my tires were rated well for CRR, and I'd make sure I had latex tubes. Then I'd make sure I didn't have any low hanging aero fruit, like a baggy jersey or a bad helmet.
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [CTex65] [ In reply to ]
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I have '12 Cervelo R3 and use '12 Zipp 202 tubulars and love them. For me (125 lbs), they've been great 'all-around' race wheels. (Of course, they especially shine on sustained climbs and hilly/rolling courses).
Last edited by: Brushman: May 24, 15 3:12
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [CTex65] [ In reply to ]
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CTex65 wrote:
I have a Cervelo R3 Team Edition Road Cycle. I think it's a 2012 or 2013 model with Fulcrum Racing T wheels. The bike seems to climb very well, but it lacks the roll speed on flats and downhill. I am on the lighter side (135lbs), but I am looking for something that gives the bike more roll speed but I don't want to lose anything on climb. I don't know a lot about the Fulcrum wheels, but is it worth the upgrade to grab the Zipp 202's or another wheel that will give me more roll speed but still be great on climbs?

Anyone have any experience with these or advice?

I have the same bike and slap some Oval Concept 932 tubulars on from time to time. It's really light in that configuration but . . . . I live in Louisiana where the HIGHEST point is around 530 ft above sea level so I can't speak for climbing. :-D
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [rijndael] [ In reply to ]
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rijndael wrote:
AFAIK, those Racing Ts are similar to a Racing 7 wheel.


If I wanted to improve my "roll", I'd first make sure my tires were rated well for CRR, and I'd make sure I had latex tubes. Then I'd make sure I didn't have any low hanging aero fruit, like a baggy jersey or a bad helmet.

...or the Fulcrum wheels, which aren't very aero at all (sharp-edged box section, so similar to Mavic Ksyriums).

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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [CTex65] [ In reply to ]
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If Zipps are in your budget, and you're looking for a noticeable boost in performance on the flats whilst still climbing well, then have a look at the 303s as opposed to the 202s

They are a bit more of an all rounder wheel than the 202s are.
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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The Flo30 wheels also have some merit to them as climbers with aero profiles

http://www.flocycling.com/aero.php

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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, I own a pair of FLO30s and love them.

I figured from the OP's post that he was looking for something a little more lightweight, and he didn't seem to mind paying Zipp prices.
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [CTex65] [ In reply to ]
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I set my PRs on local climbs on 808s. Weight matters less than aero and good tubes/tires/pressure.

Never really understood the 202. 303/404 are much better overall in my opinion.
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [CTex65] [ In reply to ]
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I'm using Corima Aero+ MCC wheels for hilly road racing, hill climbs, etc.
They're 48mm deep, but lighter than Zipp 202s. It's a great wheel... fast, light, good looking.
They also handle really well in nasty wind.

I highly recommend them, especially with a good quality tub (I'm rolling Veloflex, but anything good quality with latex tubes will work).

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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [drsteve] [ In reply to ]
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Zipp 202 - 1395g
Zipp 303 - 1570g
Flo 30s - 1625g


I don't see the point in buying a set of zipp 202s/303s for $3000 when you can buy a set of flo 30s that weigh ~50grams more and have an aluminum brake track for $600 ? You could build a set of sub 1300 gram clincher wheels on kinlin rims for probably $1000. Go check out the weightweenie forum for ideas on lightweight wheel builds.
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [Jmath] [ In reply to ]
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You pay what you get for.... Love my Zipp's.
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [CTex65] [ In reply to ]
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2011 vintage (yes, they need a warranty swap, and no, not 11 speed compatible) 303 tubulars are the way to go. Mine was 1170g for the set before the hub warranty. It really bulges out to ~ 28mm at the widest point, making it quite close in shape to a firecrest.
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [Jmath] [ In reply to ]
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A set of Flo 30 weigh over a pound more than tubular 202s or the Corima rims I ride. (Both the Zipps and the Corimas are sub-1100g). The Flo 30 is 30mm deep, the 202 is 32mm and the Corima Aero+ rim is ~48mm deep.

I'm sure the Flo 30 are a fine wheelset, but they compete on value. You may not see the point in the more expensive wheels, but a lot of folks do.

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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [drsteve] [ In reply to ]
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I should clarify and say I don't see the point in Zipp clinchers for the price if you are looking at saving weight. I assumed the OP was looking for clinchers. If your primary goal is to save weight there are a ton of tubular sets is the 1100g range and that is what you should be looking at.
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [rijndael] [ In reply to ]
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rijndael wrote:
AFAIK, those Racing Ts are similar to a Racing 7 wheel.


If I wanted to improve my "roll", I'd first make sure my tires were rated well for CRR, and I'd make sure I had latex tubes. Then I'd make sure I didn't have any low hanging aero fruit, like a baggy jersey or a bad helmet.

This.

I have a 2012 R3 team as well, with American Classic 58 clinchers I bought a couple years ago. They've been great for me so far, but are probably too heavy for what the OP is looking for.
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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [Jmath] [ In reply to ]
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Jmath wrote:
Zipp 202 - 1395g
Zipp 303 - 1570g
Flo 30s - 1625g


I don't see the point in buying a set of zipp 202s/303s for $3000 when you can buy a set of flo 30s that weigh ~50grams more and have an aluminum brake track for $600 ? You could build a set of sub 1300 gram clincher wheels on kinlin rims for probably $1000. Go check out the weightweenie forum for ideas on lightweight wheel builds.

Not to be a total nit picker... but our FLO 30 wheel sets are $498 total.


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Re: Zipp 202 - Climbing Specialists [Jimster] [ In reply to ]
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Jimster wrote:
You pay what you get for.... Love my Zipp's.

Love my 404's but 202's don't make a whole lot of sense to me. You can build up a set of similar depth aluminum wheels (Kinlin 31t for example) with lightweight hubs for less than half the cost and get a better brake track and spend a lot less on brake pads.

As far as training on tubular wheels I won't get into that can of worms but just say this is ST not weight weenies...
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