I've been very happy with the wired pt. I think their rep is good. If you're buying it used on ebay, the only concern is cost. I wouldn't pay more than $300 for a box rim. wheelbuilder can build you a new ant+ version for ~$600.

I do love the LYC though.

As one of those sellers, I'll openly admit my conflict of interest here.

I'm upgrading to wireless Ptaps for ease of use/portability/intercompatibility reasons. Not data/reliability reasons. I had thousands of miles of good data. Especially easy/good if you're using it on a trainer, where the harness is less likely to get beat up.

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The question of who is right and who is wrong has seemed to me always too small to be worth a moment's thought, while the question of what is right and what is wrong has seemed all-important.

-Albert J. Nock

oh, one note .... wireless ain't free. you gotta remember that getting a wireless requires you to buy a joule or garmin or similar. the wired LYC is friggin perfect for the trainer.

Agreed entirely--wired units will last an eternity on the trainer. On the cost of a garmin vs LYC--getting your hands on wired LYC's can be tricky (should they, somehow, eject at 40mph...not speaking from experience or anything...)

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The question of who is right and who is wrong has seemed to me always too small to be worth a moment's thought, while the question of what is right and what is wrong has seemed all-important.

-Albert J. Nock

I upgraded from a wired to a wireless, and in a lot of ways, the wired one is better. Only downsides to the wired model were 1) the wires, and 2) inability to upload to strava (which could actually be an UPside :) )

Also, using the wired LYC, you'll get better data precision and a smoother power number. I really miss the smoothness of mine.

Anything sub $300 a good price? My main concern is ordering via a shady seller via Ebay and having it not work and/or be repairable

With patience, definitely under $250. If it's a SL/G2 hub body (big carbon windows or the same style with an alloy shell), it can be retrofit later for $350 (or whatever it will be in the future) with G3 electronics.

Have a look here in these classifieds, too. There are a few as well.

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The question of who is right and who is wrong has seemed to me always too small to be worth a moment's thought, while the question of what is right and what is wrong has seemed all-important.

-Albert J. Nock

I sold mine for 125$ on the Forum, so 300$ is nuts for a complete wired setup. I bought a complete SL+ and wheel for 300$.

One thing to consider is whether the wired PT is rebuildable. It has a 12mm axle versus the current 15mm axle and as of two years ago Saris wasn't offering rebuilds of these old hubs, so things like a bearing replacement is risky. This may have changed

I've had wired powertaps for years and they seem to be rock solid in my experience. The bearings can be replaced by your LBS, but they need to be aware that they need to be careful not to distort the torque tube when installing the new bearings, so need to keep everything square. I've bought 3 off ebay over the years and they've all worked perfectly and I'd trust them more than my P2max. They seem to either work or be obviously knackered with random readings, so if you buy off ebay it should be pretty apparent if it's knackered and you can get a refund off paypal.

Random readings? What if the signal seems to drop out on fast / hard efforts on the trainer and then return after the effort returns to normal?

The one I saw was 285 for front/rear wheel and all sensors + computer. Sound reasonable?

Well I wouldn't call it a screaming deal and if they are worn/kinda rough they will cost at least 350$ to fix (if they can be rebuilt). New G3s were about 550$ with Black Friday deals and I don't think they have made a wired PT for at least 5 years. My first PT was a wired unit and it just wasn't nearly as nice as the ANT+ models. If you already have an ANT+ computer, I bet you end up with buyer's remorse because the wireless PTs are much nicer.