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Re: Why is Australia and NZ kicking U.S. arse in endurance sports? [hiphopster] [ In reply to ]
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hiphopster wrote:

Not Dave

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"Dave's not here."

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Re: Why is Australia and NZ kicking U.S. arse in endurance sports? [dirtymangos] [ In reply to ]
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I am from Norway. It is the Olympic soon. This discussion is stupid.
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Re: Why is Australia and NZ kicking U.S. arse in endurance sports? [Bryancd] [ In reply to ]
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And lose your house if you get sick.

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Re: Why is Australia and NZ kicking U.S. arse in endurance sports? [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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Halvard wrote:
I am from Norway. It is the Olympic soon. This discussion is stupid.

This pretty much sums it up. I'm not from Norway, but still.
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Re: Why is Australia and NZ kicking U.S. arse in endurance sports? [Bryancd] [ In reply to ]
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Bryancd wrote:
I suppose for the same reason you in NZ and AU accept such absurd income tax rates. We may suck at endurance sport but at least we can retire wealthy.


Bryancd wrote:
And I was only half joking. Any developed nation that taxes it's citizens at such draconian levels should have sufficient money to invest in sport.


Well this is a whole other argument...
The US has the lowest upward mobility in the OECD
The median wealth in Australia is over 300 000
The median wealth in the US approx 60 000

Our tax rates are only absurd to residents of a country that are far more capitilist biased than equality. The fact our medain wealth is much higher in simple terms does show it is not hurting us as much as an extremely capitilist economy. You guys see this as very socialist policy, but the fact is here people like me are seen as too conservative. Which is laughable in comparison to a US conservative. Perhaps the taxes allow the government to implment policy that enables upward mobility and wealth creation leading to better outcomes for all. Believe it or not the rich get richer too! Just not by standing on everyone else.

Edit: It is a myth we spend alot on our grass roots sports system. In fact our AIS was once the benchmark is now behind the curve. Apart from shortfalls of the number of opportunities being limited by class (it is also in Oz to a lesser extent). The US collegiate system is better.
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Re: Why is Australia and NZ kicking U.S. arse in endurance sports? [Rocketman] [ In reply to ]
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Ah, the great American dream. Anyone can become rich/famous/powerful...but almost no one ever does because they have to start from such a long way back. It's like an illusionists trick. The US has a very strong caste system but everyone is taught to believe the exact opposite.

In Australia you are more likely to be torn down by those below you for being successful (referred to here as the "tall poppy syndrome") rather than deified. I am not sure that our system is necessarily better...
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Re: Why is Australia and NZ kicking U.S. arse in endurance sports? [stikman] [ In reply to ]
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Yeh, The tall poppy syndrome over here annoys me. The very wealthy people I know work hard and are very civic minded.
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