Login required to started new threads

Login required to post replies

Prev Next
Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner?
Quote | Reply
I heard part of the story of how triathlon started, but have never heard if there was an answer, or conclusion.

My guess would be cyclists or cross country skiers. Has it been answered?
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Start by defining what "fit" means...

Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
It all depends on what metric you use for "fit" but my guess is that swimmers on average will appear to the general population as the most fit people because their tone shows up nicely in their upper body where it can be seen. Runners and cyclists tend to look quite utilitarian with scrawny chest & arms and overbuilt legs. All that aside I think there is a lot to be said for specializing in something and the way that aiming for peak performance in one area creates a distorted fitness profile.
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
That's how triathlon was born, but having a bunch of people doing a triathlon was never going to answer that question anyway.
First define fitness. Then define a hypothesis. Then select groups, methodology, statistical test, etc. Run your experiment. Analyze the data. Conclude.
Then have someone do it again using the same protocol and see if the results are confirmed.

This may require some funding. So, good luck :-)
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [dgran] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Of course, all things being equal in terms to training volume and genetics:

Swimming is the only sport at a young age that will change your body permanently for the better. The lungs grow to compensate and do not reduce in size.

Swimming is less harmful than the other 2 sports.

Swimming is a more complete workout as it covers aerobic, anaerobic, strength, fast twitch and slow twitch.

Swimming lets you see the opposite sex in the least amount of clothing.
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Noof wrote:
I heard part of the story of how triathlon started, but have never heard if there was an answer, or conclusion.

My guess would be cyclists or cross country skiers. Has it been answered?

If you throw a swimmer in a running race, they'll look very un-fit.

If you throw a runner in a swimming race, they'll look very un-fit.

There are many ways to measure fitness: appearances (swimmers), real-life usefulness of muscles developed (swimmers probably), race-wise (depends on race) and scientifically (wattage outputs, VO2, metabolism, resting HR), and different sporting specialists will have different results. So to get any kind of a real answer, your question needs to be much more tightly defined. And once you define it as "who has the best VO2" or something, you'll just get people bitching that that's not a good way to measure fitness.

STAC Zero Trainer - Zero noise, zero tire contact, zero moving parts. Suffer in Silence starting fall 2016
Last edited by: AHare: Apr 24, 15 7:25
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Fit to do what?






Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
The question has no meaning.

Noof wrote:
I heard part of the story of how triathlon started, but have never heard if there was an answer, or conclusion.

My guess would be cyclists or cross country skiers. Has it been answered?



Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [prattzc] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
prattzc wrote:
Of course, all things being equal in terms to training volume and genetics:

Swimming is the only sport at a young age that will change your body permanently for the better. The lungs grow to compensate and do not reduce in size.

Swimming is less harmful than the other 2 sports.

Swimming is a more complete workout as it covers aerobic, anaerobic, strength, fast twitch and slow twitch.

Swimming lets you see the opposite sex in the least amount of clothing.

I think we have a clear winner
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [noofus] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
yeah, I probably could have started and ended with that one.
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [noofus] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
noofus wrote:
prattzc wrote:
Of course, all things being equal in terms to training volume and genetics:

Swimming is the only sport at a young age that will change your body permanently for the better. The lungs grow to compensate and do not reduce in size.

Swimming is less harmful than the other 2 sports.

Swimming is a more complete workout as it covers aerobic, anaerobic, strength, fast twitch and slow twitch.

Swimming lets you see the opposite sex in the least amount of clothing.


I think we have a clear winner

There is a reason for the term "swimcest". Just sayin.....

Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Noof wrote:
Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof]

Noof wrote:
My guess would be cyclists or cross country skiers. Has it been answered?


Are you asking which of the three sports in triathlon gets you the most fit, or are you asking what sport in triathlon and biathlon gets you the most fit?
Last edited by: Meathead: Apr 24, 15 7:34
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [AHare] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
AHare wrote:
Noof wrote:
I heard part of the story of how triathlon started, but have never heard if there was an answer, or conclusion.

My guess would be cyclists or cross country skiers. Has it been answered?

If you throw a swimmer in a running race, they'll look very un-fit.

If you throw a runner in a swimming race, they'll look very un-fit.

There are many ways to measure fitness: appearances (swimmers), real-life usefulness of muscles developed (swimmers probably), race-wise (depends on race) and scientifically (wattage outputs, VO2, metabolism, resting HR), and different sporting specialists will have different results. So to get any kind of a real answer, your question needs to be much more tightly defined. And once you define it as "who has the best VO2" or something, you'll just get people bitching that that's not a good way to measure fitness.


This is why I hate and love slowtwitch.

I suppose what I am asking is not just one question...

In a way I am asking which sport is more difficult. It's irrelevant but at the same time very interesting. Running a 2:03 marathon or riding alp d'huez in 37minutes or 100m butterfly in 49seconds.

I am also interested in yes, V02 max I suppose, which sport has the highest trained athletes.

Im also curious about the conclusion to the creation of triathlon, which to me is more of a question than a sport. Back in the day which athletes came from what background? Who faired the best?

If you look at MMA for instance, originally people were not cross trained they came from different practices. Some practices appeared to be clearly ahead of others, for example, muay thai vs boxing. Now kids are raised as pure mixed fighters and there's no more practice vs practice. The same thing has happened in triathlon, and I think Macca really lead that wave. Anyway to get back to my last part of the question, does anyone know which athletes came from what background that faired the best in beginning of triathlon?
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
in the early days? swimmers.

Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
runner, as the other 2 sports are more technique; lets take a look at ITU athletes, most have a heavier track/xc/soccer background - gwen jorgenson, brownlees... Best not pick 1. Start with swimming and running as a youngster and that develops a good triathlete. The bike is just transportation from the swim to run race.
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
synthetic wrote:
runner, as the other 2 sports are more technique; lets take a look at ITU athletes, most have a heavier track/xc/soccer background - gwen jorgenson, brownlees... Best not pick 1. Start with swimming and running as a youngster and that develops a good triathlete. The bike is just transportation from the swim to run race.

I think you're onto something, from what I've seen for the past.. 10 years? runners have dominated triathlon.
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
All three trisports are fairly well developed now, so I think it's fair to say that performance at the highest level on a general level will probably at least be in the same tier of top performance. So it definitely won't be like comparing the early days of MMA-jujitsu to the other disciplines, since SBR are all well evolved and with wide participation.

It's literally impossible to say which is the absolute greatest performance when trying to compare these sports. I am tempted to say that top running performances are the greatest because running has the greatest global reach (there are probably more world-class Kenyan runners than there are Kenyan schoolchildren in competitive swim clubs!) as well as least equipment outlay (again, very few competitive Kenyan cyclists, and it's mainly because of the money to participate), but the differences will be very, very small at that level, and arguably equal as a tier.
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
If you are talking about folks in each individual sport at the elite level, I'd say they are about equally fit.

If you are talking about overall functional fitness, because swimming is the only one of the 3 that uses any significant upper body strength, it is probably a better overall workout of the 3 for general fitness if pursued seriously. Runners and cyclists are often a little more of a one trick pony than a very well conditioned swimmer.

However, if you are asking, for the guys and gals in your neighborhood who work out semi regularly, the runners are probably in the best overall shape as a group. You're average middle age runner probably works harder than your average middle age bike rider or swimmer.
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Why don't we meet on Waikiki on Saturday and find out?

OH WAIT!
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
JasoninHalifax wrote:
Start by defining what "fit" means...

I say we get this guys opinion..


Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
I'd vote for runners. Cyclists and Swimmers can get pretty fat and still perform well at their sport. Not really true for runners.

Also, good runners win triathlons, especially long ones.
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [mrtopher1980] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
who is that?

Swimming Workout of the Day:

Favourite Swim Sets:

2020 National Masters Champion - M50-54 - 50m Butterfly
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [Noof] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Swimming might create the best all over fitness for muscles ... not for bones and connective tissue though.
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
If skinny = fit, my 80 year old mother in law could kick all your asses.
Quote Reply
Re: Who is more fit? Swimmers, Cyclists, or Runner? [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
JasoninHalifax wrote:
noofus wrote:
prattzc wrote:
Of course, all things being equal in terms to training volume and genetics:

Swimming is the only sport at a young age that will change your body permanently for the better. The lungs grow to compensate and do not reduce in size.

Swimming is less harmful than the other 2 sports.

Swimming is a more complete workout as it covers aerobic, anaerobic, strength, fast twitch and slow twitch.

Swimming lets you see the opposite sex in the least amount of clothing.


I think we have a clear winner

There is a reason for the term "swimcest". Just sayin.....

I partially disagree. Bun huggers and a sports bra are less clothing than a one piece suit.

IG: idking90
Quote Reply

Prev Next