You will likely climb just as good or better on deeper wheels, generally, depending on your fitness and the steepness.

But for a training bike, where you don't care about looks, something like the Flo30, or Mavic Cosmic Elite, or HED Ardennes get you about 75% of the aeroness cheap and easy. Those wheels are only ~30mm deep but have good shapes and good spokes. At low yaw they are as good as deep wheels.

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My only issue with those are they are aluminum braking which is a deal breaker. I'd like full carbon so I don't have to switch brake pads when swapping between bikes. Both had chainstay braking so the adjusting is a foreseeable nightmare in that scenario. I hate to say it but I'm probably up shits creek unless I consider Chinese wheels or upping my budget.

Thanks Jack for the insight as always

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Keep in mind to get something close to the raynolds in width, otherwise you have to adjust also. PlanetX got 50 80 but tubulars.

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Hopefully not an inflammatory comment, but I don't get why folks want fast wheels on their training bikes. By fast, I mean more speed for less effort. Why do you want to need less effort in your training?

Genuinely interested in thoughts on this. I have occasionally tinkered with the idea of swapping my aluminium training bike (a Spesh Allez) for something in carbon, as I live somewhere very hilly and occasionally enter the odd sportive where it might be fun to try and hit the gold standard time cutoff, or do the club hill climb or something. But then I remember that it's my training bike and why would I want my training to be any easier.

So back OT my suggestion is big heavy box rims with 32 spokes, and enjoy the benefit when you get on your race bike!!

You might consider the Reynolds R2 carbon clinchers (32mm). I've used them for several years as a nice training wheelset. You should be able to find a set via ebay or other online sources.

Specs, photos, info, review - http://www.bikerumor.com/...bulars-down-to-1000/

you've misconstrued things in forming your argument.

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My reason is to avoid the difference in brake setup between the two bikes. I understand your perspective but there is more than one way to skin a cat, agreed? While it is my training bike that includes regular group rides here in Toronto. The main ride is known to be brutal where its keep up or get dropped (Doughnut Run). Just as turning heavy wheels is beneficial so is being surrounded by guys/gals pushing your limits every step of the way.

For me the swapping of wheels and similarity in the braking surface basically makes my life easier when deciding which setup to use on which day.

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This is a great point I hadn't considered. Is there a database for finding out what a set of wheels is width wise? I've got 2013 Reynolds Strike (66mm) which came from a Quintana Roo dealer which had been "upgraded" for another customers CD0.1. I assume they are just regular but they are clinchers as I'm not a fan of tubulars.

Thanks!

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Apologies if my post sounded critical, it really wasn't meant to be. I hadn't thought about fast group riding, for example, so it was helpful for me to ask the question. Good point. If I was actually allowed out the house long enough to join any group rides (new baby in the house) then I might have thought of that!

Found the details myself here http://www.competitivecyclist.com/reynolds-strike-c

Looks to be 20.8mm wide on the current wheelset.ones as well.

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I had some group rides I did regularly that were so hard I would no shit sometimes bring the race wheels to increase the odds of sticking with the fast guy, and thus get a harder workout.

But, yeah for the rest of the week, just on slow stuff.

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
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Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter