What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500

May 8, 13 12:40

Post #1 of 37 (12456 views)

I was curious what power field people use and had a question about some of the different options you can pick.

1. I use Power 3sec and 30sec in my fields thus far

2. Power IF: Do people use this mostly at the end of their ride? From my understanding it seems like it is a ratio and tells you how hard your ride was? If so how is this different from TSS?

3. I know NP power seems like a better representation of power but where does this fit in when you are actively riding? Since I already use 3s and 30s power where would NP fit in?

4. It seems IF and TSS both reflect how hard you work? Do people use this as a post ride metric? Not sure what the difference between the two is.

Any other useful field for power people use for their Garmin? Thanks!

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 12:51

Post #2 of 37 (12442 views)

I like to think of IF as measuring the smoothness of your ride. If you ride steady 200 watts and it doesn't change for an hour, then your IF would be 1.0. If you do a lot of surges of say 200 watts, 300 watts, 100 watts, etc., then your IF will be something above 1.0. Like 1.4. Obviously those numbers are for demo purposes only.

NP is your average power and IF measured together. So if you took the above example and rode 200 watts for 1 hour and your IF was 1.0, then your NP would be 200 watts. To me it shows how hard you rode. You may only have an average of 175 watts, but your NP is 200 cause you had some really hard climbs thrown in during the ride.

I just watch current power and try to ride steady.

Last edited by: Rebcos: May 8, 13 12:52

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Rebcos] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 13:07

Post #3 of 37 (12419 views)

Rebcos wrote:

I like to think of IF as measuring the smoothness of your ride.....

that's not what IF is. http://home.trainingpeaks.com/...ng-stress-score.aspx

I have two items on my main screen.

Power (3s)

HR

I have another screen with ride metrics like time, distance, avg speed, and a third that I look at at the end of a ride which has my power metrics like Np, AvgP, IF, TSS

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [morey000] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 13:11

Post #4 of 37 (12414 views)

You're correct. I was thinking VI. My bad.

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 13:36

Post #5 of 37 (12383 views)

3s Pwr
HR
Cadence
Speed

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 14:00

Post #6 of 37 (12362 views)

Izlude wrote:

1. I use Power 3sec and 30sec in my fields thus far

Those are the only ones I find useful while riding.

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 14:11

Post #7 of 37 (12350 views)

I use the following:
SPEED (large)
Power, cadence (used to use hr here)
Ride time, avg speed (or sometimes distance)

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [nightfend] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 15:00

Post #8 of 37 (12326 views)

nightfend wrote:

I use the following:
SPEED (large)
Power, cadence (used to use hr here)
Ride time, avg speed (or sometimes distance)

Why is speed important?

I think I can think of a few situations, such as for an assessment of your aero-ness.

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 15:30

Post #9 of 37 (12310 views)

3 sec power

Avg lap power

Time

http://www.frostyjunction.com/
https://twitter.com/FrostyJunction

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 16:01

Post #10 of 37 (12295 views)

Speed, Distance, 3s power, % FTP, HR, Cadence.

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [RichardL] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 18:07

Post #11 of 37 (12249 views)

I have power, time, cadence, HR on first page. On my interval page I have 30 Sec power, 3 sec, lap time, HR and cadence. other pages has some things to look at once in a while like TSS, ascent, max speed, grade

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 18:28

Post #12 of 37 (12239 views)

10sec power
avg lap power (I have it set to autolap every 6mi so about every 16-18min)

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 19:21

Post #13 of 37 (12217 views)

Average Mega Watts, in my dreams.

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 19:31

Post #14 of 37 (12214 views)

Elapsed time
3 sec power
Cadence
HR
Power zone

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [fasth2o] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 19:40

Post #15 of 37 (12206 views)

3 sec power
Elapsed time
Hr

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 8, 13 19:50

Post #16 of 37 (12201 views)

For interval work and Primary Screen-

3s pwr
Avg Lap Pwr
Lap Time
Lap HR / Cadence

Power Screen-

Avg Pwr
NP Pwr
KJ / IF

-Brad Williams
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Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [ In reply to ]

May 9, 13 3:09

Post #17 of 37 (12130 views)

I got my Edge 500 a few months ago and my screens are still evolving, this is what I've used for the last few weeks:

Primary Screen
Power (3 sec)
Time, Distance
Speed, Cadence

Lap Screen
Power (3 sec)
lap time, lap distance
speed, cadence

Interval Screen
Power (3 sec)
Lap time, Ave lap power
Distance, cadence

Info screen
Ave Power, Ave Speed
Total time, HR
Joules, Elevation
Time of day, Last lap Power

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [jaretj] [ In reply to ]

May 9, 13 7:57

Post #18 of 37 (12077 views)

I see a lot of people are displaying speed. If you ride with a PM why do you care about speed?

http://www.frostyjunction.com/
https://twitter.com/FrostyJunction

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]

May 9, 13 9:09

Post #19 of 37 (12049 views)

I agree, we as athletes with power meters should not care about speed. I think with Garmins having so many screens now to display data it just ends up going on there. If an athlete is displaying speed when they are doing intervals then I think that is a problem, but it seems the majority of us are using all power and time based #'s for our intervals.

-Brad Williams
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Partnered with: Zoot Sports | Precision Fuel &Hydration | ISM

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]

May 9, 13 9:11

Post #20 of 37 (12045 views)

Notice that it is missing from my interval screen.

To me it's just a feel good (or bad) number as well as another indicator of intensity

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [Izlude] [ In reply to ]

May 9, 13 9:42

Post #21 of 37 (12025 views)

I love the Speed indicator when I'm racing. It helps me judge my speed on a technical turn, and often helps me gauge my efforts on climbs better than the power readings. Mostly because I race hills at above threshold power, then ease off on the descents. On flat, rolling terrain, I try and just stay in my power numbers. But I've ridden long enough that I usually can tell what power I'm at simply by looking at my speed. So that is why I keep it larger, and my power on one of the smaller fields below.

But that is the great thing about the Garmin, it is highly customized and everyone has their favorite data they look at.

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [jaretj] [ In reply to ]

May 9, 13 9:44

Post #22 of 37 (12023 views)

jaretj wrote:

Notice that it is missing from my interval screen.

To me it's just a feel good (or bad) number as well as another indicator of intensity

Speed is not an indicator of intensity.

http://www.frostyjunction.com/
https://twitter.com/FrostyJunction

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]

May 9, 13 10:00

Post #23 of 37 (12017 views)

FrostyJ wrote:

jaretj wrote:

Notice that it is missing from my interval screen.

To me it's just a feel good (or bad) number as well as another indicator of intensity

Speed is not an indicator of intensity.

I disagree. It's not as good of an indicator as others but going 20 mph on a flat road on a windless day is easier than 25 mph on the same day

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [jaretj] [ In reply to ]

May 9, 13 10:17

Post #24 of 37 (12004 views)

Nobody except me display power as % of FTP for doing intervals?

Re: What are the power fields you use for you Garmin 510/500 [jaretj] [ In reply to ]

May 9, 13 10:24

Post #25 of 37 (12001 views)

It can also be a good indicator that your brakes are rubbing.

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