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Where do you live? How strong a rider are you? What size are your front chaingrings?

I live in CO, while lots of hills nothing too steep and I always go with a 11-25 and have a 53/39 chainrings. I'm an average rider around 2:35 for a half and 5:30 for a normal IM.

If I live in Florida I would probably go 11-23. If I lived where there are super steep climbs then I would go something easier and probably a compact crank on the front.
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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This is not an 'Ultegra Cassette Question", this is a "I know almost nothing about bike gearing, can you take your time to re-write what has been written on extensively already since google is too difficult for me" question.

Educate yourself on the many articles out there on gearing before asking us to take our time to explain it from scratch. Here is one to start with. If you can't understand this, I posit that you should not be buying parts on Amazon and installing them. It is beyond you.

http://sheldonbrown.com/gear-theory.html


"Some folks plan for the optimum race, others like to get upset when others out plan them. "
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [summitt] [ In reply to ]
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I live near Reno and ride a half at 3:00 hrs. I would have to see what size my front rings are, but the race that I'm doing this for is the Escape, so it's pretty much all hills. What does the "11" in the 11-23 signify? 23 is the tooth count right?
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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11 is the small cog and 23 is the largest on an 11-23
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [JimSanders] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for your condescending response, much appreciated. Everyone starts somewhere and I don't claim to be the king of knowledge on everything. Try using some tact, I need to start somewhere. Thanks for the link though douche!
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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lguh6000 wrote:
I live near Reno and ride a half at 3:00 hrs. I would have to see what size my front rings are, but the race that I'm doing this for is the Escape, so it's pretty much all hills. What does the "11" in the 11-23 signify? 23 is the tooth count right?

They both represent tooth count ... one on the low end 11 and one on the high end 23 ... if you're doing hills get a higher high end number like 25 or 28. Also DON'T BUY BIKE PARTS FROM AMAZON! Go to your local bike shop and they can give you the best advice for your area.

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"Train so you have no regrets @ the finish line"
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for all the advice everyone! That'll get me pointed in the right direction. I appreciate all the input, even the negative ones :-)
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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lguh6000 wrote:
Thanks for your condescending response, much appreciated. Everyone starts somewhere and I don't claim to be the king of knowledge on everything. Try using some tact, I need to start somewhere. Thanks for the link though douche!


Hi, yes, the numbers are both for the size cogs. 11 is the small, and 23 is the big one.

For hills and for a 3 hour half, I'd recommend the 12-25 or the 11-28 Ultegras. You'll probably be ok with either.

The best cassette though, is probably the Shimano 105 (5700) 12-27. It is fully compatible with your set up, and actually cheaper. It gets rid of the 11 cog, which you really don't need, and gives you a better range. I wish they made this size in Ultegra. Here's a link:

http://www.nashbar.com/...2_514566_-1___202424

Your local bike shop can probably get this for you overnight, and install it for you, even fine-tuning things if needed. Good luck and feel free to ask follow up questions.
Last edited by: AG Tri Newbie: Apr 22, 14 12:02
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the compliment. I prefer being a douche to being someone who is so inconsiderate of other's time that they don't take 10 seconds of their own time to research something and instead ask others to take much more of their time to re-write what has been written many times. To paraphrase others, if one person reads this and realizes they should search for something before asking a question that has probably been answered 100 times, my douchebaggery will have been worth it.

Next time I'll just send this link, as I find it even more condescending. http://bit.ly/1jwoKGA


"Some folks plan for the optimum race, others like to get upset when others out plan them. "
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [JimSanders] [ In reply to ]
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JimSanders wrote:
Thanks for the compliment. I prefer being a douche to being someone who is so inconsiderate of other's time that they don't take 10 seconds of their own time to research something and instead ask others to take much more of their time to re-write what has been written many times. To paraphrase others, if one person reads this and realizes they should search for something before asking a question that has probably been answered 100 times, my douchebaggery will have been worth it.

Next time I'll just send this link, as I find it even more condescending.http://bit.ly/1jwoKGA[/quote[/url]]

Your link didn't work. It's a shame because I'm so interested in seeing what you have to offer. It's funny that you are the only one who seems to have "wasted time" on this thread with all of your negativity. Everyone else has been very pleasant and helpful. It is apparent that you really hate your life and the people around you so you have to troll around the internet and take it out on people who are less "educated" as yourself. And for that I really feel sorry for you and to have wasted your precious time. Please feel free to "waste" more of your time to respond to me because I can do this all day. I've got nothing to do at work today :-)
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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Link worked fine for me when I clicked in my post above. It not working for you might actually explain why you asked basic easily researched questions here instead of looking it up yourself.

Here are some more links for you.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/...p?term=Google%20lazy
http://hellogiggles.com/i-am-not-your-google
http://hamiltonmorris.blogspot.com/...o-your-googling.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...ed-it_n_4329684.html

As far as 'wasting my time' you asked us to do it with your question, so I'm just obliging you. As I said, if one person reads this and realizes they should search for something before asking a question that has probably been answered 100 times, my douchebaggery will have been worth it.

This is Slowtwitch not beginner tri. We have a reputation for 'politeness' to uphold. ;-)


"Some folks plan for the optimum race, others like to get upset when others out plan them. "
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [JimSanders] [ In reply to ]
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JimSanders wrote:
Link worked fine for me when I clicked in my post above. It not working for you might actually explain why you asked basic easily researched questions here instead of looking it up yourself.

Here are some more links for you.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/...p?term=Google%20lazy
http://hellogiggles.com/i-am-not-your-google
http://hamiltonmorris.blogspot.com/...o-your-googling.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...ed-it_n_4329684.html

As far as 'wasting my time' you asked us to do it with your question, so I'm just obliging you. As I said, if one person reads this and realizes they should search for something before asking a question that has probably been answered 100 times, my douchebaggery will have been worth it.

This is Slowtwitch not beginner tri. We have a reputation for 'politeness' to uphold. ;-)



What you fail to realize is that you do not represent slowtwitch, triathletes, or the users of this forum. if you did it would be great travesty to everyone in this humble sport.

Unless I've completely missed something, this site is for all levels whether you are a newbie or if you're a pro. I really hope someone looking into this sport isn't put off by your garrish attitude.

If someone new to the sport asked you the same question at an event, I would hope that you wouldn't tell them that they are lazy and to go look it up on google. You are a horrible representation if this awesome sport. And because of people like you others would be put off to even think about trying this sport out.

If you don't like what someone posts, then ignore it. No one here seems to have wasted time answering my question. These are the true triathletes. You my friend, need to get a life. You are now boring. I'm done with you. Have a good life: -)
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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lguh6000 wrote:
I'm looking at getting a new cassette for a rear wheel that I just bought but have no clue on the sizing. On Amazon they different "sizes" for the 10-speed CS-6700 (11-23,11-25, 11-28, 12-23, etc). What do I need to know about these different sizes and what are the advantages/disadvantages to any certain size?

Thanks,

Gear choice is an individual preference, For example, I have been using an 11/23 cog and 53/39 chain rings for the riding around my home in San Francisco and surrounding areas for years with out issue. Additionally, I don't like the 11/28, 12/ 23 as I over spin them especially on the down hills.

Finally, I would say that if you have a ton of leg strength, go with the 11/23 and blow away the guys with the power meters. If for example, you are a beginning cyclist that has never done any heavy leg work at the gym then you may want to consider the 12-23 cogs
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [JimSanders] [ In reply to ]
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JimSanders wrote:
Link worked fine for me when I clicked in my post above. It not working for you might actually explain why you asked basic easily researched questions here instead of looking it up yourself.

Here are some more links for you.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/...p?term=Google%20lazy
http://hellogiggles.com/i-am-not-your-google
http://hamiltonmorris.blogspot.com/...o-your-googling.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...ed-it_n_4329684.html

As far as 'wasting my time' you asked us to do it with your question, so I'm just obliging you. As I said, if one person reads this and realizes they should search for something before asking a question that has probably been answered 100 times, my douchebaggery will have been worth it.

This is Slowtwitch not beginner tri. We have a reputation for 'politeness' to uphold. ;-)

Get over yourself, Jim. If you thought the question was beneath you, click back and move on.
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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lguh6000 wrote:
I'm looking at getting a new cassette for a rear wheel that I just bought but have no clue on the sizing. On Amazon they different "sizes" for the 10-speed CS-6700 (11-23,11-25, 11-28, 12-23, etc). What do I need to know about these different sizes and what are the advantages/disadvantages to any certain size?

Thanks,

lguh6000,
the local bike shop is the perfect place to start your bicycle education and experience as they'll have a range of cassettes and will be able to advise you based upon your experience and ability, and will be able to fit the cassette and tune your gears so that it works perfectly.

then the next time you need a replacement cassette, and don't forget that you'll likely need a new chain as well as special tools, you'll be a lot further evolved as an educated and experienced bike owner.

I've been doing this bike riding malarky for > 40 years, and yes I know my cassettes and most of the tech that I need, but I still have my local bike shop supply the parts & do all the wrenching for me.
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [Avago] [ In reply to ]
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Avago wrote:
lguh6000 wrote:
I'm looking at getting a new cassette for a rear wheel that I just bought but have no clue on the sizing. On Amazon they different "sizes" for the 10-speed CS-6700 (11-23,11-25, 11-28, 12-23, etc). What do I need to know about these different sizes and what are the advantages/disadvantages to any certain size?

Thanks,


lguh6000,
the local bike shop is the perfect place to start your bicycle education and experience as they'll have a range of cassettes and will be able to advise you based upon your experience and ability, and will be able to fit the cassette and tune your gears so that it works perfectly.

then the next time you need a replacement cassette, and don't forget that you'll likely need a new chain as well as special tools, you'll be a lot further evolved as an educated and experienced bike owner.

I've been doing this bike riding malarky for > 40 years, and yes I know my cassettes and most of the tech that I need, but I still have my local bike shop supply the parts & do all the wrenching for me.



Avago, great advice, thanks!
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [JimSanders] [ In reply to ]
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JimSanders wrote:
Link worked fine for me when I clicked in my post above. It not working for you might actually explain why you asked basic easily researched questions here instead of looking it up yourself.

Here are some more links for you.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/...p?term=Google%20lazy
http://hellogiggles.com/i-am-not-your-google
http://hamiltonmorris.blogspot.com/...o-your-googling.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...ed-it_n_4329684.html

As far as 'wasting my time' you asked us to do it with your question, so I'm just obliging you. As I said, if one person reads this and realizes they should search for something before asking a question that has probably been answered 100 times, my douchebaggery will have been worth it.

This is Slowtwitch not beginner tri. We have a reputation for 'politeness' to uphold. ;-)

I won't argue or defend as to whether or not your a db, but these links are kinda funny. Ever thought of installing magnetic strips in your ask, so next time you help someone google, you can charge them and then have them swipe their credit card? :-) For the OP,hope he doesn't mention he doesn't know how to do flip turns.... watch out then.
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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the link worked for me! love lmgtfy

maybe your internet is broken?

did your wheel come with a cassette already on it, why not just ride it and go on from there?
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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Best place to start is by looking at your existing cassette. Count how many teeth are on the smallest cog, and how many are on the largest. This is it's size. Many are 12x25.


Then think about how well it works for you. The larger number is the lowest gear. Is that low enough for the rides you do, or do you find yourself needing a lower gear? If you need a lower gear (for big hills at the end of a hard ride) then you might get the 11x28 or 12x27.

The big number in the size is the largest gear. For most riders a 12 is fine, but you might want an 11 if you were a strong rider on a flat, fast course. In general make your decision on what cassette to get based on the lowest gear (do you need the 23, 25, or 28)

The good news is that cassettes are easy to swap out, and a good beginner mechanic task. Many articles on the web if you want to see how to do it.
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [VGT] [ In reply to ]
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VGT wrote:
JimSanders wrote:
Link worked fine for me when I clicked in my post above. It not working for you might actually explain why you asked basic easily researched questions here instead of looking it up yourself.

Here are some more links for you.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/...p?term=Google%20lazy
http://hellogiggles.com/i-am-not-your-google
http://hamiltonmorris.blogspot.com/...o-your-googling.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...ed-it_n_4329684.html

As far as 'wasting my time' you asked us to do it with your question, so I'm just obliging you. As I said, if one person reads this and realizes they should search for something before asking a question that has probably been answered 100 times, my douchebaggery will have been worth it.

This is Slowtwitch not beginner tri. We have a reputation for 'politeness' to uphold. ;-)


Get over yourself, Jim. If you thought the question was beneath you, click back and move on.


Its about the entire journey, not just the moment you cross the line.
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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Go to your bike shop. They will get you EXACTLY what you need and put it on your wheel. It doesn't sound like you have the background and tools to be putting your own cassette on anyways.

The $10 you will save buying (possibly the wrong cassette for you) online cannot be worth all of the time you have spent on this forum and all of the feathers that have been ruffled.

The links and advice so far have been good, but go to your local bike shop if you want to buy a new cassette.
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [hammond] [ In reply to ]
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hammond wrote:
Best place to start is by looking at your existing cassette. Count how many teeth are on the smallest cog, and how many are on the largest. This is it's size. Many are 12x25.


Then think about how well it works for you. The larger number is the lowest gear. Is that low enough for the rides you do, or do you find yourself needing a lower gear? If you need a lower gear (for big hills at the end of a hard ride) then you might get the 11x28 or 12x27.

The big number in the size is the largest gear. For most riders a 12 is fine, but you might want an 11 if you were a strong rider on a flat, fast course. In general make your decision on what cassette to get based on the lowest gear (do you need the 23, 25, or 28)

The good news is that cassettes are easy to swap out, and a good beginner mechanic task. Many articles on the web if you want to see how to do it.


Thanks Hammond, on my old wheels, I have 11-28 (I now know..) and they have worked well for me on both hills and straights. I will go to the bike shop though like others have suggested and get more info. I just wanted to be able to know what I was talking about. Thanks again!
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [lguh6000] [ In reply to ]
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I see you deleted your OP. Don't let one dickhead's snarky replies keep you from asking questions. I don't know how new you are, but everybody started somewhere. I thought it was a legit question, though I do agree you need an LBS to get your knowledge level up. Keep the questions coming.
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Re: Ultegra Cassette question [triflorida] [ In reply to ]
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triflorida wrote:
I see you deleted your OP. Don't let one dickhead's snarky replies keep you from asking questions. I don't know how new you are, but everybody started somewhere. I thought it was a legit question, though I do agree you need an LBS to get your knowledge level up. Keep the questions coming.
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