Hi R2,



The hydraulic brakes use the same hoses and connections as Magura's other hydraulic rim brakes. These have proven reliable for decades on city bikes.

Cheers,

I wasn't bitching, I was wondering why everybody is still waiting. Beleive it or not I'm not even really that mad about it, I'm more concerned with getting my S5 right now and I'll use that for tri if I need to.

But if he will answer questions about anything Cervelo people feel they can ask him questions. Sorry of my post came off as "bitching", it was never meant to be.

There are a lot of people who are really pissed about the P5, shops included I'm sure. They placed orders last fall and won't receive them till after the season is over this year. Kinda tough to sell a $10000 when the season is over and fall is almost here. When mine was ordered it had a ship date of June, now September.

I have trained all winter on a broken body only to find that corporate America (Canada) has controlled my happiness or lack there of......

be grateful you still have a ride.

David,

your participation is a sign of excellent customer service. Thank you very much for it!

"I think we should split out the posts complaining about the delays into a separate thread (not censor them), and leave this one for technical questions about the P5."

first, we didn't delete the post. the person who wrote the post deleted his own post.

second, i saw the post, and didn't delete it because it was so silly on its face and it seemed to me instructive to those who are naive enough to expect, and rely upon, spot-on-time delivery of a highly technical product that hasn't been produced yet at all. not just because the company in question may experience delays because of its own miscalculations, but because so many things can go wrong. heck, once i had a container fall off the ship. it's on the bottom of the ocean right now. that product you were waiting for.

cervelo is a gift to triathletes. if god came down and gave this sport a gift, it would be in the form of that company, for everything it has been and everything that flowed from it, in the form of bike designs by other companies that have had to hustle to match what cervelo has offered over the years.

cervelo has made one mistake. it decided to own its own pro tour, or euro continental, team, banking on landing a non-endemic title sponsor, immediately before an economic crash that was very difficult to predict. it gambled. it was a shrewd gamble. it was a swashbuckling gamble. and in the end it was a good gamble that didn't pay off. anything bad that has flowed since that time is because of that gamble.

otherwise, from 1996 'til today that company has done nothing but over-perform, and the s5 and p5 are the most recent examples of that.

i could write the same thing about trek/bontrager, and specialized, and some other companies, because we're in this perfect storm of great companies engineering from a position of strength. when one contrasts that to construction, banking, automotive, we have a lot to be thankful for.

that's the landscape, and it's through that prism i read the petty complaints. what damon started on at trek, and has continued at cervelo, and what carl has continued on with at trek, are really extraordinary. likewise what mark cote has accomplished at specialized. and dave koesel at felt. and they're all on this forum board explaining their designs to you, and helping make their bikes work for you. it's a pretty good time to be looking for bike product that works for you in triathlon. if you can't find what you want, at the time you want it, it's probably the mechanics of your search process that are flawed.

David,


My P5-tri was ordered in December 2011 so I'm hoping I'll be fairly high in the delivery list. However, my dealer told me that (at least as of now) Cervelo is unable to deliver a complete bike and offered to "downgrade" my order to framekit (which I did).