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Popcorn.
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Nice first post. I'll give it 3 out of 10.


jsnteacher wrote:

I am a 46 year old male with crazy low T. I have been on testosterone injections for the past two years and have had great success. I've always stayed within the confines of my recommended dosage. My question is: I have a 70.3 coming up in 2 weeks and was toying with the idea of adding 1/2 a CC to my injection a couple days before the race. I'm not going full Armstrong and am taking it legally, does anyone know of any disadvantage from an extra 1/2 CC? I know changes aren't good this close to a race but wasn't sure if a little extra T would be a big deal...induce quicker muscle fatigue or have an adverse physical reaction? Thoughts?


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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Floyd Landis used it before his epic mountain stage in the TDF.
He got great results.

Heck, i'd up the dosage and extra 5 CC's...just to be sure.

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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Why stop at 1/2 a CC?


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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jbnc77] [ In reply to ]
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jbnc77 wrote:
Why stop at 1/2 a CC?

Because he's concerned it will be a disadvantage. Why would the OP punish himself by taking more T just before a race? Duh!!!
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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first, welcome to slowtwitch. i'm the chief moderator here. second, thank you, for a lot of page views that will be forthcoming.

you will find that you have walked into something that you did not expect or intend. i will attempt to make sure all the regulars here treat you with decorum, just, there are a few things that you might not know about. i'm talking about how the rules actually, technically, operate in sports, especially sports under the olympic federation system where athletes (recreational or elite) are bound by the WADA code.

naivete of the issues is a beef of mine, that is, not necessarily that you might be naive to relevant rules, it's easy to be naive to rules and culture and it's not THAT hard for relevant institutions (the media like us, sports governing bodies, anti-doping agencies, race organizers) to aid in bringing everybody up to speed.

our readers are going to aid in bringing you up to speed. so...

let us move forward, and i suspect you're about to be apprised of some stuff you didn't know!


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Last edited by: Slowman: May 19, 15 14:25
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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as long as you balance it out with 20U/kg of EPO you'll be fine
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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oh, and, so far they're funnin' you. then they'll get down to answering your question.

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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe pay someone fast to wear your bib?
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Go for it, I mean the rules only apply to those at the very pointy end of the needle... right?

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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Using testosterone is a doping violation, even if you have naturally low-T, even if it was prescribed by a doctor. If you race, you are cheating/doping and in the very rare event that you were tested you would get banned. The exception is if you have a TUE (therapeutic use exemption), but those are almost impossible to get (especially for T).

I wish there was a non-competitive option for people who just want to do the race while on banned meds, but that doesn't exist right now.

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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Well, Dan says we have to be nice, but I'm not sure if you are either naïve' or a troll. One thing is for certain, without a TUE, and even without increasing the dosage you are CHEATING whether you think so or not.
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Legal by federal and state, not by USAT or WTC as described by USADA and WADA unles you have a TUE.

Google the capitalized words and you will get the reason for the sarcasm.

Unless this is a TROLL, in which case I only rate it 2/10.

As for you initial question, I have no evidence for against your intentions. I have no idea what testosterone you are taking not do I know your health conditions, nor do I know how you react to specific doses. Hell, I don't know what the hell testosterone actually does for an athlete. Somehow makes them into captain America?
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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I mean, if you are cool with the possibility of a raging hard-on...
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Dan, you have reasons to believe this was a serious question and not a complete troll?
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Make sure to put testosterone in the medications section of the race information form. That way they can help you if you have an adverse physical reaction on race day. You are racing in Raleigh? Give us a little more background information. You are a teacher?

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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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"Dan, you have reasons to believe this was a serious question and not a complete troll?"

could be a troll. i have my secret ways of sniffing trolls, and if this is a troll he's gotten through the barbed wire and the mine field. hence i'm treating it as legit until i know otherwise.


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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Never mind, it was pretty easy to find. I'll be watching for your bib number.

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owen. wrote:
Popcorn.

*Grabs a bowl of popcorn as well*
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [jsnteacher] [ In reply to ]
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Sadly, it seems this if for real. I'm sorry you didn't know it is against the rules to race on testosterone even if prescribed by your doctor. Unless of course you have a TUE, which you won't get for low T and most certainly don't have.

The right thing to do at this point it to withdraw from your race as it is sanctioned by USAT and falls under WADA rules. No one wants to see a middle of the pack average Joe get popped for a doping violation. Unfortunately, you decided to announce to the world you are on testosterone and racing a 70.3 by starting this thread.

There really should be a participants wave to accommodate people like yourself. Unfortunately, at the moment everyone must race/participate under that same strict rules even if they are not competitive.

I wish USAT/WTC would do more to educate participants in regards to T treatment as it is becoming so common.

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Last edited by: dogmile: May 19, 15 17:23
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dogmile wrote:
Never mind, it was pretty easy to find. I'll be watching for your bib number.

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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [Sbradley11] [ In reply to ]
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Well, the original post is gone....what age group is he in? Hell....whoever figured it out, can you post his number so I can take note if he passes me?
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Re: Testosterone before a 70.3? [Sbradley11] [ In reply to ]
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Are you very middle of the pack? Hopefully, he decides to not race nothing good could come of that.

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