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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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I saw a HS guy in a dual meet push 75 and then cruise 25 to a :45 100 yd time. I was next to his dad who said he can do 41's. I bet he could do a few 100s on the minute.

I took Tuesday off from swimming and I'll think I'll be taking more days off as I push sprinting more, to give arms and shoulders a break.

500 swim
5x100 various kicks
5x[100br/50fr]@3:00 br-1:20/:21/:19/:20/:18 fr - all easy
5x[50k/50fr]@2:00 fr - :30/:30/:29/:30/:40 - ran out of time to proper cool down so cruised this one

2250 sc yardages

Proud member of FISHTWITCH: doing a bit more than fish exercise now.
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [duffman] [ In reply to ]
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I find the legs need more of a warm up to overcome the stiffness... just my experiance. I just swim more metres on those days. The benefit to me is that I can turn a blah day into a better performing day in the pool.

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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [realAlbertan] [ In reply to ]
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WU: 200 fr, 4x25 doggie paddle, 400 pull, 4x25 catchup, 200 fr, 200 kwf
Drills: 4x{ 50 fr 25fist/25 swim, 50 bk 25 first/25 swim, 100 fr/bk }
Main:
8x50 @ :45
100 easy
8x50 @ :42
100 easy
8x50 @ :45
100 easy
8x50 @ :40
100 easy
CD: 200 pull
4200 scy

50s were all :35ish till the last couple that fell off to 36/37ish.
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [jbank] [ In reply to ]
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Lots of work today so a quick entry...

120 min of bike -- tried 2x20 but too tired. I ended with 1x20 and a bunch of zone 2.

300 warmup
100 kick
6x200 -- 100 breast kick / 100 breast pull
2x50 -- breast stroke strong pace ( :36 or :37)

1700 scm
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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AM - 11.5 mi run
PM - 4300 yd swim

600 w/u
4 x 100 alternate 1:50/1:30 interval
2 x 100 alternate 1:50/1:30 + 200 on 1:30 base + 100 on 1:30
2 x 100 alternate 1:50/1:30 + 300 on 1:30 base + 100 on 1:30
15 x 100 on 1:25
600 c/d alt 75k, 75s

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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [SH] [ In reply to ]
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took two days off from all triathlon sport activities... did some stretching and shopping ;-) ready to roll now.

curious, do you use a pull buoy when you are pulling breaststroke? i've been doing some fly kick w/ breaststroke arms which is hard but good for driving forward. would like to use fins in that drill though... should have bought those today!
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [sweet_wtr] [ In reply to ]
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Did you guys see this post about Great Swimming Drills from Gary Hall Sr.? I'm going to try that 'shifting drill' Friday. Never seen that before. Just wanted to pass it along... great video.


Please check out the link below to see some of George Bovell's (former world record holder, bronze medal in Athens 200 IM) favorite drills. I know he is a sprinter...but he spends a lot of time on drills. Technique really matters in swimming.


Gary Sr.


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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [sweet_wtr] [ In reply to ]
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nother "hit the Y for 30min after leaving office late" kinda swim,
500wu
6x200/:15, descend by 3. Managed to do the fast ones at 2:35, so swim is slowly coming back
200 IM cd

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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [sweet_wtr] [ In reply to ]
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Still in St. Pete, FL, so I headed back to the North Shore Pool after the workday. Switched up the intervals today, but didn't improve my pace much.

500 w/u 7:10
13 x 200 (:20RI)
Had an issue with lane traffic which resulted in two false starts between sets 7&8.
2:44; :51; :52; :51; :52; :51; :51; 2x FS; :57; :50 :49; :47; :47; :51
Had 150y of false starts.

3,250scy

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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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I was a slug last month so I guess I need to figure out this 4x400 penalty swim ,,,,,,if that butterfly thing is included or needs to be I'm screwed.

Back on track and hopefully our outdoor pool at the Multigen will be back open this coming Monday, been closed since the holidays.

Here is what I did today made 9,300 yards for the week

250 wu
10x100 on 2:05 today I did every 3rd length "hard" ie 2 comfortable lengths then one hard last one comfortable most were at 1:45
250 4:19 This 250 I did fairly comfortable but did pick it up from what my effort on the 100's were
10x50 on 1:05 I did these steady most were at about 50 to 53 seconds
7x100 Same as the first set of 100s
300 5:22 I'm hoping that this pace is what I'll be able to hold for a HIM swim.
5x50 same as the first set of 50s
250 cd

HIM training started this week, looking forward to Scuba Diving a couple days after the Honu!!!


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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [sweet_wtr] [ In reply to ]
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sweet_wtr wrote:
took two days off from all triathlon sport activities... did some stretching and shopping ;-) ready to roll now.

curious, do you use a pull buoy when you are pulling breaststroke? i've been doing some fly kick w/ breaststroke arms which is hard but good for driving forward. would like to use fins in that drill though... should have bought those today!

Well, I'm not sure what is best, but I know this has worked well for me in the past. I like to divide the breast stroke up into kick and pull. It's very difficult to swim total breast stroke. Once I start going too slow my stroke actually gets worse instead of better. Dividing it up helps me concentrate, keeps my heart rate from skyrocketing, and if I do it right helps improve my timing.

I think pulling with a pull buoy and fly kick helps concentrate on the arms. It also helps your timing. Sometimes it's easy to get caught at the top of your stroke waiting for your feet to get up and set. With fly kick you don't have to worry about that, so you can get used to good flow with your pull. I just tell my feet to do that same fly kick timing when I swim with a regular breast stroke kick. In other words my arms determine my timing, not my feet. If my feet don't get all the way up and ready, too bad, they are heading back down anyways. Going without a pull buoy, using fins, and using paddles are all good variations of this practice in my opinion.

On the kick portion, I like to kick with no board and my arms out in front of me. I don't pull forward, but I do elevate myself with my arms so that the kick takes place in the same position I would expect during a swim. Using a kick board is just so different that I don't like it.
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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I like
the sting in my hamstrings
run: 7 mi w/ 27 min 7.0 mph --> 9.6 mph (increase speed 1 mph each minute)
swim: 1500 yds

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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HalfSpeed wrote:
I was next to his dad who said he can do 41's.

Isn't the American record around 41?

2/9:

500 w/u
6x50 on :50

3x(2x75 on :55, 4x75 on 1:10, 50 on 1:00)

2400 scy

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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Isn't the American record around 41?

No idea, but after seeing the kid swim, I believe his dad. Kid swims for Mission Viejo Nadadores - one of the top clubs in the nation. John... somebody... sorry can't remember last name.

Today's swim was just a cruise. Went hard on bike yesterday, really feeling it today.

500 swim w/u
4x[25fl/50bk/75br/100fr]@:10RI
100 br kick
5x100 mix s/k cool

2100 sc yardages

Proud member of FISHTWITCH: doing a bit more than fish exercise now.
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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HalfSpeed wrote:
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Isn't the American record around 41?


No idea, but after seeing the kid swim, I believe his dad. Kid swims for Mission Viejo Nadadores - one of the top clubs in the nation. John... somebody... sorry can't remember last name.

American record is 41.08. 17-18 record is 42.34.

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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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WU: 3x{ 200 fr, 100 kick }
Main: 2x { 300 fr, 400 fr, 500 fr } desc each 100
200 easy
12x50 fr (50%,60%...,100%,90%,...,50%}
4100 scy
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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HalfSpeed wrote:
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Isn't the American record around 41?

No idea, but after seeing the kid swim, I believe his dad. Kid swims for Mission Viejo Nadadores - one of the top clubs in the nation. John... somebody... sorry can't remember last name.
American record is 41.08. 17-18 record is 42.34.

Maybe he did a high 42:00 anchoring a relay one time - now the dad says he can do 41's cause he's faster now? Funny though, if one of my kids was a swimmer, I would know all their PR's by heart...

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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [SH] [ In reply to ]
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Great, thanks for your reply. Going to work hard the next few weeks on breaststroke. My favorite kick drill is breaststroke kick on my back, hands at sides and kick up to my hands making sure my knees don't come out of the water. Some reason that really works for me.

Just registered for Harvard SCY... I noticed it was $2 cheaper to swim in the shallow end for the 1650 than the deep end. I thought that was kinda funny. Longest distance I will be doing there is a 200 (all deep end $5 events ;-)
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [sweet_wtr] [ In reply to ]
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In a fit of enthusiasm I just signed up for my late February swim meet -- 14 total events. As Michael Phelps is noted for his ability to recover between his events I am noted for my inability to recover between events. They should pretty much have to remove me from the pool with a net. Hopefully I will get a couple of good swims in before it becomes embarrassing.


Event
Number Gender Distance Stroke Time Date 5 Male 50 SCY Fly 0:25.80 02/25/2012 14 Male 500 SCY Free 5:30.00 02/25/2012 17 Male 50 SCY Breast 0:29.00 02/25/2012 25 Male 100 SCY IM 0:59.00 02/25/2012 28 Male 50 SCY Fly 0:25.80 02/26/2012 30 Male 50 SCY Back 0:28.90 02/26/2012 32 Male 200 SCY IM 2:15.00 02/26/2012 34 Male 50 SCY Breast 0:29.50 02/26/2012 36 Male 50 SCY Free 0:24.00 02/26/2012 38 Male 25 SCY Fly 0:12.50 02/26/2012 40 Male 25 SCY Back 0:13.50 02/26/2012 42 Male 100 SCY IM 0:58.90 02/26/2012 44 Male 25 SCY Breast 0:13.00 02/26/2012 46 Male 25 SCY Free 0:11.50 02/26/2012

Edit: When I pasted the events here it was a well organized table...
Last edited by: SH: Feb 9, 12 13:21
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [SH] [ In reply to ]
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25's don't count as events...(-;

Just kidding, good for you, looks like a fun meet. Better start hitting the weight room there, by that 14th off the blocks your legs are going to feel like they ran a marathon...
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Short and hot workout after a bike ride in the mid 80's here today..That's right bitches, it was 86 here today in the middle of winter, about the same as the pool i swam in...

6x300, 3 swim@5;00, 3p@4;30- 4;29/4;24/4;22/4;09/4;07/4;03
200 breast
2000SCM
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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We used to train (camps) at their pool, they do have some fast kids... but then so did we:-)

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Canadian Record Holder 35-39M & 40-44M - 200 m Butterfly (LCM)
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [monty] [ In reply to ]
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monty wrote:
25's don't count as events...(-;

Just kidding, good for you, looks like a fun meet. Better start hitting the weight room there, by that 14th off the blocks your legs are going to feel like they ran a marathon...

Yeah, I admit that 25's and even 50's are pretty wimpy events. Nothing like a long list of 200's.
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [SH] [ In reply to ]
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Today...

500 free
6x150@ 2:15 pull no paddles (ave: 1:52)
8x50 @1:00 kick
4x100@1:30 IM (ave: didn't think about it until too late.)
200 easy
4x100@1:30 descend 1-4 (start 1:11 end 1:05)
200 easy
8x25 -- no breather every 4th one.

3000 scm
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Re: Team 4 x 400 IM: February FISH [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Damn Californians. 86 in the winter is just not fair :(
Up till reading that I was all happy about our "mild" winter this year.

WU: 750 (50 breath 3,25 breath 5), 300 kick
Drills: 12x50 6-3-6 with fins (alternate fr/bk)
Main:
5x100 odds @ 1:35, evens @1:30
5x100 odds @ 1:40, evens @1:25
5x100 odds @ 1:45, evens @1:20
5x100 odds @ 1:50, evens @1:15
CD: 350 kwf
4000 scy
Managed to descend the "even" 100s down to 1:08.
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