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Taper for 70.3 when its a B-race in a 140.6 season
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I signed up for the 2015 Zurich 70.3 and I'm using it as a fitness tester 10 weeks before my first full distance (Mont Tremblant) in August.

I'm planning my season now, and am trying to figure out how to fit the 70.3 into my preparation for the full distance.
If the 70,3 was my A-race, I'd want to be absolutely fresh on race day so I'd be looking at a 3 1/2 week taper (I know there are a lot of different ideas wrt taper length, that seems about right to me).

But does it make sense to do a shorter taper if its not the key race of the season? I've only done one 70.3, I seemed to recover fairly well from that, it was a week to 10 days before I really felt ready for harder workouts although I was feeling pretty good a day or so after. Does it make sense to push a little less on a 70.3 if knowing there is a 140.6 to do in 10 weeks?

And how would one adjust their training programme to fit a 70.3 in? I know I havent been super clear, but there are a lot of ideas to try to fit together...


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Re: Taper for 70.3 when its a B-race in a 140.6 season [HendrikMDik] [ In reply to ]
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10 weeks apart is almost another season away. I personally do not like long tapers but 10 weeks is enough time to have a proper build and taper if you use a 10 day taper on the 140.6

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Re: Taper for 70.3 when its a B-race in a 140.6 season [jimswim99] [ In reply to ]
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I agree and then you will start the most important IM training that you will do.
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Re: Taper for 70.3 when its a B-race in a 140.6 season [jimswim99] [ In reply to ]
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I know you guys like a shorter taper - but I'm certainly not gonna podium by any means, and I'm more worried about injury from overdoing it than going in not trained enough.

10 weeks to go - 70.3 followed by easy week
9wks - ease back into build during this week
8- build
7-build
6-rest
5-build
4-biggest week
3-still a big week but back off slightly
2-taper
Race week - taper

And 10 weeks... You're right, that is a long time.

Is there really a difference between training for a 70.3 and a 140.6?
I mean, obviously one is slightly harder paced in execution than the other, but would there be a significant difference in training for each?
My gut feeling is that one would be more likely to get injured if they added the amount of interval training one would need to get fast in the 70.3 to the volume used in the 140.6. But is that accurate?

The way I had thought about long course training is that you build a fast engine first by getting a good starting FTP, then tune it to go longer not necessarily faster? Because the long training is teaching your body to produce energy on the go over a longer period of time?

Is someone who is good at 70.3 generally good at 140.6? If it's just pacing compared to concepts like FTP, then is there a noticeable difference in training adaptations for a 140 specialist vs a 70.3 specialist?

Derailing my own thread...


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Re: Taper for 70.3 when its a B-race in a 140.6 season [HendrikMDik] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, there is a difference between focused training for the two events. Both high intensity and high volume can lead to injuries if the athlete overdoes it or isn't ready. As for the way you thought about LC training, in my opinion, you are right. You won't be getting much faster once you switch to more IM-focused training, in general you can see it as trying to stretch out the speed you have over a longer distance. For the same reason, in general, focusing too much on IM can lead to losing speed. Lastly if by someone who is good at 70.3 you mean "someone who is fast" then generally they should be better at 140.6 than others.
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Re: Taper for 70.3 when its a B-race in a 140.6 season [HendrikMDik] [ In reply to ]
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read the middle paragraph in this post from the "-" then go back and look at your 10 week schedule. http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...post=5372152#5372152

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Re: Taper for 70.3 when its a B-race in a 140.6 season [HendrikMDik] [ In reply to ]
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I did the same thing last year only with 7 weeks before the IM. My taper for the 70.3 was 5 days. It was just enough and had a really good race and PR'ed big time. The recovery from that race is what you should worry about. I was so set on getting back to my IM training schedule that I picked up an injury that following week. In the end it didn't affect my IM but it sure made training a pain in the ass (literally, I had a glute strain) for the next 3-4 weeks.
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