Okay I have my own beef for the large number of athletes starting at these races but mostly with the swim and 2 loop courses and the bottlenecks in the transition but I'm about to show you
at least from my viewpoint that you can't use this as an excuse for drafting... Yes the larger field does make the marshals job a bit harder to do but it doesn't pull us helplessly into pack riding.
Some have said given the number of athletes starting at ironman florida that its impossible to not draft especially early on.
The other videos I posted are at mile 34 was that not enough to spread things out?
Another poster stated
"280 swimmers exited the water between 1:05 and 1:10. They could, theoretically, ride legal. From 1:10 to 1:15 there were 405 swimmers exit, then 368, 306 and 277 in successive 5 minute segments"
Okay but thats not when they hit the road you have to add in transition times.. Guess what that changes things quite a bit.
the wetsuit strip,long narrow run path up to and then through a narrow tunnel,grabbing bags,then running a pretty long again narrow path to change building,various changing times
then another narrow path to the end of the bike rack and the t1 exit path all make for a built in valve to squish things almost into a single file and lower the arrival rate.
Now 1:22 to 1:27 becomes the largest 5 minute strecth with 322 leaving t1 with previous 5 and next 5 under 300 which "theoretiically" all could ride legal if going 20 mph instantly or a second
to go 7 o 8 meters..starting at least a second apart. but in real world varying speeds and such its even easier than that.
Lets not get tied to exact calculations though I'm about to show you my exit and first 56 minutes collapsed into 7 minutes(8 times speed).
Its from my rear camera.. I wish my front aero had worked then but it locked up on me and I didn't catch it until about 12 miles I think into the ride(I have video of me fooling with it with the right camera after I realized the left one froze and I had to turn the right one on). I had to take battery out put back in.
The quality is bit off because it was pointing toward the sun which appears as a black dot with a bit glare around it. BUT if you look close freeze it every once in a while you will see
that there was indeed plenty of room out there once I got past the first quarter to half mile and settled in.. Its equiv of going almost 180 mph I guess. I was averageing 22.4 I think for first 25 miles(until the turn on 20) so I'm passing a lot of bikes and a few pass me but you can see theres not really a bottle neck and NO EXCUSE none of this.. I COULDN'T Help drafting because too many people in the race..
Heres the video...I have another 7 minute section after that as well as some of my front camera once I got it started may post that later. I still have some other packs on out and back and 388 new paved section I hope to post when I get a chance. This highspeed conversion ate up alot of my disk space and video was taking 20 minutes to create so its going slow plus I wanted to get out and ride today with weather so nice today.
By the way the sound is just sound of my rear disk wheel on the ground. The camera is in a water proof case so sound is muffled. sped up 8 times sounds like a motorcycle but its not.
I ride a titan-flex so there is no seat tube or triangle to the rear wheel so you just see the wheel and bottom of my water bottles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-nRg-Hd70
front view 4:44 into rear view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDpByk7yHiA
and here is the distribution at t1 exit by one minute time intervals... I removed the pros which shouldn't matter much since they started 10 minutes early.
Cut it off at 1:40 I have more but after this its not even close. I took the swim times then added in transition times then ran frequency function in excel (with 60 second intervals).
t1 exit number out in previous minute interval.
0:56 0 0:57 2 0:58 0 0:59 1 1:00 3 1:01 7 1:02 5 1:03 6 1:04 12 1:05 16 1:06 13 1:07 19 1:08 24 1:09 27 1:10 38 1:11 33 1:12 38 1:13 38 1:14 45 1:15 54 1:16 50 1:17 38 1:18 63 1:19 47 1:20 53 1:21 48 1:22 65 1:23 69 1:24 63 1:25 61 1:26 64 1:27 61 1:28 62 1:29 68 1:30 49 1:31 57 1:32 49 1:33 49 1:34 51 1:35 52 1:36 55 1:37 49 1:38 39 1:39 48 1:40 42
at least from my viewpoint that you can't use this as an excuse for drafting... Yes the larger field does make the marshals job a bit harder to do but it doesn't pull us helplessly into pack riding.
Some have said given the number of athletes starting at ironman florida that its impossible to not draft especially early on.
The other videos I posted are at mile 34 was that not enough to spread things out?
Another poster stated
"280 swimmers exited the water between 1:05 and 1:10. They could, theoretically, ride legal. From 1:10 to 1:15 there were 405 swimmers exit, then 368, 306 and 277 in successive 5 minute segments"
Okay but thats not when they hit the road you have to add in transition times.. Guess what that changes things quite a bit.
the wetsuit strip,long narrow run path up to and then through a narrow tunnel,grabbing bags,then running a pretty long again narrow path to change building,various changing times
then another narrow path to the end of the bike rack and the t1 exit path all make for a built in valve to squish things almost into a single file and lower the arrival rate.
Now 1:22 to 1:27 becomes the largest 5 minute strecth with 322 leaving t1 with previous 5 and next 5 under 300 which "theoretiically" all could ride legal if going 20 mph instantly or a second
to go 7 o 8 meters..starting at least a second apart. but in real world varying speeds and such its even easier than that.
Lets not get tied to exact calculations though I'm about to show you my exit and first 56 minutes collapsed into 7 minutes(8 times speed).
Its from my rear camera.. I wish my front aero had worked then but it locked up on me and I didn't catch it until about 12 miles I think into the ride(I have video of me fooling with it with the right camera after I realized the left one froze and I had to turn the right one on). I had to take battery out put back in.
The quality is bit off because it was pointing toward the sun which appears as a black dot with a bit glare around it. BUT if you look close freeze it every once in a while you will see
that there was indeed plenty of room out there once I got past the first quarter to half mile and settled in.. Its equiv of going almost 180 mph I guess. I was averageing 22.4 I think for first 25 miles(until the turn on 20) so I'm passing a lot of bikes and a few pass me but you can see theres not really a bottle neck and NO EXCUSE none of this.. I COULDN'T Help drafting because too many people in the race..
Heres the video...I have another 7 minute section after that as well as some of my front camera once I got it started may post that later. I still have some other packs on out and back and 388 new paved section I hope to post when I get a chance. This highspeed conversion ate up alot of my disk space and video was taking 20 minutes to create so its going slow plus I wanted to get out and ride today with weather so nice today.
By the way the sound is just sound of my rear disk wheel on the ground. The camera is in a water proof case so sound is muffled. sped up 8 times sounds like a motorcycle but its not.
I ride a titan-flex so there is no seat tube or triangle to the rear wheel so you just see the wheel and bottom of my water bottles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-nRg-Hd70
front view 4:44 into rear view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDpByk7yHiA
and here is the distribution at t1 exit by one minute time intervals... I removed the pros which shouldn't matter much since they started 10 minutes early.
Cut it off at 1:40 I have more but after this its not even close. I took the swim times then added in transition times then ran frequency function in excel (with 60 second intervals).
t1 exit number out in previous minute interval.
0:56 0 0:57 2 0:58 0 0:59 1 1:00 3 1:01 7 1:02 5 1:03 6 1:04 12 1:05 16 1:06 13 1:07 19 1:08 24 1:09 27 1:10 38 1:11 33 1:12 38 1:13 38 1:14 45 1:15 54 1:16 50 1:17 38 1:18 63 1:19 47 1:20 53 1:21 48 1:22 65 1:23 69 1:24 63 1:25 61 1:26 64 1:27 61 1:28 62 1:29 68 1:30 49 1:31 57 1:32 49 1:33 49 1:34 51 1:35 52 1:36 55 1:37 49 1:38 39 1:39 48 1:40 42