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Silca Hiro Owners
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I just purchased a Silca Hiro, It seems to be too large for the opening on a Zipp Disc. Do any owners out there have pictures of theirs or give a newbie advice on what I might be doing wrong?
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [lestoad] [ In reply to ]
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I am interested in the replies.....bought one and have never been able to use it.
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [Mike Alexander] [ In reply to ]
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From the best I can tell, you will somehow need short 20-30mm valve tubes. I run latex tubes so I don't know of any under 50mm. It's a tight fit but I have it working somewhat.
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [lestoad] [ In reply to ]
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I had to return mine. Would not work in my older Zipp disc wheel.

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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [lestoad] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting. I have a Zipp Super 9 disc and was considering buying the Silca Hiro. Can you post a picture of it not working?

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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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I will try to take a picture once the air releases a bit from the tubes and I can get it off the valve haha. I'll try to post one tomorrow. Like I said it might fit if you have short valve stems but I don't know of any brands of latex tubes that have short stems.

I was hoping Nick from Tririg might see this and comment since he reviewed it for his site.
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [lestoad] [ In reply to ]
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Will it work with the 37mm Zipp butyl tubes? That's what I have in my disc currently. Yes, I know latex is better haha

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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [lestoad] [ In reply to ]
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lestoad wrote:
I was hoping Nick from Tririg might see this and comment since he reviewed it for his site.
Sure thing. I didn't have a Zipp disc at the time of review. As others have mentioned, valve length is going to be important. If you don't have different valve length options, then you're probably stuck using the standard adapter.

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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Nick. Always enjoy your reviews which is why I even considered purchasing a Hiro.

While I have your attention though, 1 hand operation is difficult with my standard adapter, do you have any suggestions of your favorites for disc and have clearance?
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Nick are you sure about this? The Hiro has an adjustable gasket, so it should fit any presta valve? I found I had to dial mine in a little bit, but it is definitely flawless in operation for me now and I wouldn't imagine going back. I use a Flo disc, but I don't see how that would make a difference.
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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TriRig wrote:
lestoad wrote:
I was hoping Nick from Tririg might see this and comment since he reviewed it for his site.

Sure thing. I didn't have a Zipp disc at the time of review. As others have mentioned, valve length is going to be important. If you don't have different valve length options, then you're probably stuck using the standard adapter.

I worked with them directly before I sent mine back. I thought they told me they would update their website to say older Zipps are not supported. And I have even made my cut out larger, still would not work. Was an amazing quality.
My zipp is like 2007

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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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I have the Zipp Super 9 and the cutout just isn't large enough to get it off the valve. It works and it seals but i just cant get it out once the tube is up to pressure. Pretty disappointed, its a bit ironic too if you ask me.
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [willhs] [ In reply to ]
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your flo is just a fairing over a rim so you dont have a solid core correct? this would allow you a little more room to replace it. Plus from what it looks like in pictures the cutout on a flo is pretty large.
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [willhs] [ In reply to ]
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lestoad wrote:
Thanks Nick. Always enjoy your reviews which is why I even considered purchasing a Hiro.

While I have your attention though, 1 hand operation is difficult with my standard adapter, do you have any suggestions of your favorites for disc and have clearance?
The small black Silca works very well. Just install it right: unload the valve (by unscrewing the preload faceplate a half turn or so), push onto the gasket, and reload the valve (screw the faceplate back on half a turn). If you're installing correctly, but the adapter still blows off the valve or leaks, you might need to replace the gasket. Those are available from Silca.


willhs wrote:
Nick are you sure about this? The Hiro has an adjustable gasket, so it should fit any presta valve? I found I had to dial mine in a little bit, but it is definitely flawless in operation for me now and I wouldn't imagine going back. I use a Flo disc, but I don't see how that would make a difference.
The valve type doesn't make a difference, it's the valve length as mentioned. This is because a longer valve might not leave very much clearance between its tip and the end of the disc's cutout. The Hiro has a significantly longer head than the standard adapter, so that amount of space is important.

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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [lestoad] [ In reply to ]
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I have the Zipp Super 9 and a Hiro and I have used it multiple times without any issue. It is a bit tight but you just need to bend the valve a bit to put it on and pull it off. I have used the Zipp butyl and the Bontrager latex with no issue just a bit tight. Just take your time and a little bit of patience and you should be able to get it to work.
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [jsosinski] [ In reply to ]
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I contacted Silca about this issue. They have redesigned the Hiro to fit discs with smaller openings. It should be out in a couple of weeks

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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [TriRig] [ In reply to ]
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Hate the Hiro. Just found it to be finicky and temperamental. As suggested by the Silca site I took the time to take it apart, put it back together, and fully understand it. I think I do understand it. But I just don't like it. Always felt there was drama with using it, and excess friction. I pretty much gave it away.

For discs I prefer the wonderful Silca adapter. For everything else I prefer the cheap-o Giant head, even though I can't admire it's "finish" or "craftsmanship." But you can use it at 4:30AM in the dark and it will work 100% of the time with no drama. Which is what a head should do.
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [trail] [ In reply to ]
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I'd at least recommend trying the Silca 17-4 Presta Head for non disc use. It's really just phenomenal. I have no stake in Silca, just really love the stuff.

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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [lestoad] [ In reply to ]
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lestoad wrote:
From the best I can tell, you will somehow need short 20-30mm valve tubes. I run latex tubes so I don't know of any under 50mm. It's a tight fit but I have it working somewhat.

Vredestein makes short valve latex tubes. You can buy them on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/...;hash=item2c96d4e4d4

You need the 42mm valve version. Works just fine with a Super9 carbon clincher disc & original Hiro. This is what I use.

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Last edited by: Rappstar: Jul 26, 15 9:35
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Rappstar. And everyone for the tips and suggestions.
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [lestoad] [ In reply to ]
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lestoad wrote:
Plus from what it looks like in pictures the cutout on a flo is pretty large.

It is! We made it that way so it works with most pumps :)


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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [lestoad] [ In reply to ]
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The new Silca Hiro version 2 is available and will work with Zipp discs


http://silca.cc/...locking-presta-chuck

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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting it looks like version 1 is gone. Maybe I will try again. Would be nice to be able to inflate without having to have the wife help.

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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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BryanD wrote:
I contacted Silca about this issue. They have redesigned the Hiro to fit discs with smaller openings. It should be out in a couple of weeks

Is there a retrofit for the original?
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Re: Silca Hiro Owners [codygo] [ In reply to ]
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Nope. The Version 2 was designed to be smaller to fit inside the Zipp disc

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