Thanks for the picture, looks nice.

PS. Please tell me those are not your race tires...

I am counting down to the first wreck because some engineer thought it was a good idea to over complicate a bicycle because they can't deal with cable stretch, lol. However, I have to admit that this makes for a great episode of The Mentalist, when the wife drains her husband's p5 brakes and causes him to careen off a cliff so she can continue to bang the pool boy unencumbered.

I completely agree that brakes on a tt bike aren't even important and I've done several races without any operational brakes to prove it, unless you count Fred flintsoning it as "brakes".

If you have been on most of the tri super bikes, you will know that the brakes suck on almost of them (both from a functional ability and a serviceability). Magura's are bomb proof and work nearly as well as disc brakes. These will become the standard.

Jack

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Yes they are. They are tubbies. The rest of my wheels are clinches. If I ever have to buy new wheels they will be tubbies. Definitely less punches.

Very nice!

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I´m afraid that is not the point. GS (clincher or tubular) demands much more power to maintain the speed than a Conti 4000 GS, in example.

They might become standard if companies think they can market them to suckers, like $12k carbon fiber. But it's not because they are necessary.

after looking at all the pictures of the satin paint, I have to agree the gloss seat post and bars do not look right, they need to match the frame. I hope this comes about before my bike comes in

I agree - the handlebars would probably be fine ...but the seat post needs to match. Should be an easy fix...Hope Cervelo does it

The bars on the P5-3 would be OK. But the 3T Auduro (sp?) bars in all gloss on an otherwise matte bike (P5-6) would not look good in my opinion.

Especially since those two components were specially designed to integrate with one another.

Again, can't stress enough that the bike needs to look matched up. Not a FrankenVelo.... ;-)

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I agree. My bike is supesed to come in October. I hope cervelo will menage to offer the seatpost and the bars in matt till then.

David I have a p5 six on order and I do like the satin. A friend of mine just took delieverly on a bmc time machine and everything is done in satin and looks really good.

Having been close up with both versions, I actually like that satin / matte P5 better. Good things come to those who wait I guess. :-)

I have had a weekend with my P5. The bike is phenomenal. My only concern is the brakes. I am admittedly not a good bike handler. However I found the brakes dangerous. You cannot feather them like a normal brake and they seem to lock with little provocation. I nearly came short a few times. Would be interested to here other opinions. Maybe I just need to get used to them.


The bike is super stiff and the ride is firm. It climbs better than my road bile(cervelo R3).


I think that anyone buying the P5-3 should rather get a frame set. I think the standard TT bars could be better. I prefer bars with intergrated extensions. What to other riders think of the bars ?

That's odd. I find them very easy to modulate. Yes if you grab them hard they will lock, but I didn't have any trouble modulating them.

Maybe open the brakes a bit more so they don't grab quite as early?

My P5 three...love the matte finish!!

Um... I'll be in my bunk.

Hi Epic,

Just got back from a very nice EuroBike show. A little rainy outside, but very busy for us inside!

For your info, there is no measurable difference in aero performance with either gloss or satin finish.

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Hi Sam,

When installed and adjusted properly the Magura RT TT hydraulic rim brakes have more power and modulation, not less. Sounds like yours are missing some of the modulation.

In my experience this can be due to several factors. The most likely and easiest to fix is braking surface contamination. It's not unusual to get some hydraulic oil (mineral oil) on the rim or brake pads, which can change the local coefficient of friction. To remove the residue, clean the rims and brake pads with rubbing alcohol on a clean white paper towel. Scrub the braking surfaces of the rim and brake pad. Repeat until the towel comes away clean.

A second possibility is the pad and rim don't mate well yet, same as is possible with any mechanical brake. Just like a mechanical brake, some, but not all, of this surface shape mismatch can be minimized by adjusting the shoe using the spherical washers. The last matching up occurs by wearing in the pads during braking, same as a mechanical brake.

Let me know if these possibilities don't yield better modulation.

Cheers,

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CSG Road Engineering Department
Cannondale & GT Bicycles
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These Magura brakes have great modulation actually, and it sounds to me like they might not be set properly. You may also just squeeze too hard. Play with them a bit to get more comfortable.

Sure, that matching is nice, but if it doesn't happen on the bike you order, it is very easy to get the seatpost finish to match the matte frame finish. Just wet sand it with some super fine sandpaper for a few minutes. Don't overdo the pressure and it will probably even get the seatpost to hold better in the frame when clamped in. FYI, this is not official cervelo advice, but it should work perfectly fine.

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What seat angle are you getting with your seatpost that far forward?

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Hi Damon,

any feedback from your product manager regarding the switch to mat finish on seatpost and the bars?

Best,
Andreas

Hi Johnek,

I asked him this morning. I'm sorry to report it, but we already have a lot of glossy handle bars and even more glossy seat posts. Looks like it'll probably be a long time before we change the finish on those parts. I haven't reached out to Hot Tubes yet, but I suspect Toby could spray a satin clear coat on request.

Cheers,

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Engineering Manager,
CSG Road Engineering Department
Cannondale & GT Bicycles
(ex-Cervelo, ex-Trek, ex-Velomax, ex-Kestrel)