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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [AHare] [ In reply to ]
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The rule they are using is that they are allowed bike changes in any stage. Flat mechanical etc. At least this stops them from faking a flat Oddly watching a guy decend now he isn't even in the aerobars. I'm sure they will be for a big part, but if you aren't going to ride aero its silly to change.

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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You do realize that Cadel Evans attacked Andy Schleck on that same descent a couple years ago and gained a bit of time, right? Was that an unnecessary, dangerous classless move as well?

And why would Contador work with Froome when Kreuzinger was in the group up the road, and there was an opportunity to take time back?

It's a bike RACE, not a participatory sport like triathlon.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]
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LOL that Journalist chic @ the end is funny.

"So what do you think of Contador vs Froomie"?


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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
You do realize that Cadel Evans attacked Andy Schleck on that same descent a couple years ago and gained a bit of time, right? Was that an unnecessary, dangerous classless move as well?

And why would Contador work with Froome when Kreuzinger was in the group up the road, and there was an opportunity to take time back?

It's a bike RACE, not a participatory sport like triathlon.

Not sure what the gap between Evans and Schleck was, but I'm guessing it was alot less than the 4:25 Contador is currently trailing Froome by. Also, if you have a 40 yard gap on someone on a steep descent, be as reckless as you want because if you crash you are only taking yourself out, but being reckless when you are all in a close group that includes many of the top GC contenders is less cool.

I get that it's a bike race, but my point is that you need to assess risk vs reward and in this case I think that with only a few km left in the stage, the risk of taking yourself and a number of the top GC contenders out of the race in a crash on a tricky descent was not worth it. Just my opinion, and apparently Froome's too. You're welcome to disagree.

And Contador had every motivation to get back into the group or he would have lost valuable seconds to Mollema. Which do you think Contador cares about more, Kreuzinger taking 10 seconds (say) back on Froome, or himself not losing 10 seconds to Mollema?
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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Risk is relative. My threshold of skill determines whether I'm riding with my crazy relative or my sane relative:)

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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The reality is that Contador was likely attacking Mollema, not Froome. He knew he wasn't gonna drop Froome, especially after Ventoux. BUt dropping Mollema was a good possibility and would have moved him up to 2nd place overall.

It's a bike race.....descents are part of the game, as is attacking on them. You don't get to dictate when and where attacks happen (unless you are riding a fast enough tempo that discourages any attacks).

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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HORRIBLE bike change for Froome......hopefully it costs him the stage. Wink

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [styrrell] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like Contador couldn't decide which pill to take this morning, the blue one or the red one.

"Screw it, I'll take them both".

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think Contador cares about finishing second. In fact, it makes a lot more sense for Kreuzinger to finish higher on the podium than Contador.

Since all the contenders are 4+ minutes down on Froome should they all be taking it easy today? Risk-reward?

Guess you "get" that it's bike racing but not sure if you really understand it, based on your comments.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Contador 0.72 seconds leading the stage. Raining on Froomie now.


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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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I bow to your superior knowledge about these things.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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Mollema ate the barriers. Stayed upright though.


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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]
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Thought Contador might have it with it raining on Froome but he made up some serious time.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]
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Froomie gets the stage.


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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]
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And froome just won again. He is unstoppable.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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Looked like a venge with clip-ons and disc. I got a glimpse of the wheel cut-out on the start.

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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RowToTri wrote:
Looked like a venge with clip-ons and disc. I got a glimpse of the wheel cut-out on the start.

Froome just made it a moot point by getting the win. Difficult ruling for the aeroweenie aero-bike win counter. I'm calling it a tie =)



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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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I have not comments on the stage, but I though the camera man did awesome when Mollema went into the barrier and the camera guy stays balanced on the moto, and keeps his lense on the entire thing while coming to a screaming halt. I'd get motion sick just looking through the camera sitting on a moto and these guys do it following protour riders and bringing the coverage live to our screens. These "motomen" (as opposed to the USPS EPO delivery motoman) are some of the real heros of the tour de France. When you watch it live and see what these guys do following riders, it really is mind boggling. They guys are acrobats of the first order!!!!
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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FROOMESTRONG!!!!!!!
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [HomerJSimpson] [ In reply to ]
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How much does he win by tomorrow?

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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Whichever one he rode, I bet he wishes he'd done a switch to his Shiv, especially given how well it handles for a TT bike.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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Pretty much looks like very tiny differences due to equipment choice. Hopefully cyclenutz will crunch the numbers, but I doubt going full aero vs full ww vs bike change would be enough to alter the results by a significant amount.

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [ In reply to ]
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Froome is just on point....
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