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Point of a Wetsuit
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I've read a good amount of posts here and other places on the innanet and have noticed many people's preference for wetsuit legal swims. I'm a relatively new swimmer and am curious about just how beneficial a wetsuit is. Does a wetsuit compensate for being a weak swimmer? Does it take away the need to kick? When I started swimming, I wanted to focus on my kick because of how poor it is (since I'm a runner), but the coach told me that it's not important in triathlon (which I believed). I've come to see that that statement was BS.
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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [polynice] [ In reply to ]
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The point is to prevent hypothermia.

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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
simple:

it is much easier to swim in a wetsuit because it floats

So it is a witch?

It is also warmer if the water is a little chilly. I really don't enjoy water under 78'ish. It isn't that I can't, it is that I don't want to.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [polynice] [ In reply to ]
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To give you a convenient place to pee before a race and have some mental semblance of privacy






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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [polynice] [ In reply to ]
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Dorsi flexed ankles will cause slightly less drag in a wetsuit. As I posted above the point is warmth and any performance bennies should be seen as a bonus.

Pure OW swimming has not ever allowed wetsuits. FINA min temp is 15C for OW.

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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [polynice] [ In reply to ]
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Welcome to our sport.


A wetsuit offers buoyancy, which improves body position, which makes you faster. Possibly 0:10/100m. The advantage is highest for weaker swimmers, and diminishes the better one's swim technique.

For weaker swimmers on long swims the kick is less about propulsion and more about proper body position and rotation. A wetsuit fixes a lot of that for you so your coach is probably right. Plus you may need your energy later, so don't burn your matches kicking like a madman, very low ROI.
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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [kkoole] [ In reply to ]
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^^^^^ Nailed it.

Add that to a smoother skin on the neoprene which reduces drag, and good thermal characteristics.

In a wetsuit swim, even the best swimmers may give up some time without a suit.

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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [realAlbertan] [ In reply to ]
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realAlbertan wrote:
The point is to prevent hypothermia.

well, that was the original intent....

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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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And triathlon started to cater to candy ass whining.

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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [polynice] [ In reply to ]
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polynice wrote:
I've read a good amount of posts here and other places on the innanet and have noticed many people's preference for wetsuit legal swims. I'm a relatively new swimmer and am curious about just how beneficial a wetsuit is. Does a wetsuit compensate for being a weak swimmer? Does it take away the need to kick? When I started swimming, I wanted to focus on my kick because of how poor it is (since I'm a runner), but the coach told me that it's not important in triathlon (which I believed). I've come to see that that statement was BS.
Lots of ways to answer your question with the absolutes of: wet suits do float and keep you warmer

Runners tend to have inflexible ankles... even if you two beat kick or don't kick at all, feet pointed downwards are going to slow you down. I wouldn't completely ignore your kick and ankle flexibility.
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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [polynice] [ In reply to ]
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polynice wrote:
I've read a good amount of posts here and other places on the innanet and have noticed many people's preference for wetsuit legal swims. I'm a relatively new swimmer and am curious about just how beneficial a wetsuit is.

Does a wetsuit compensate for being a weak swimmer? - yes
Does it take away the need to kick? - not completely
When I started swimming, I wanted to focus on my kick because of how poor it is (since I'm a runner), but the coach told me that it's not important in triathlon (which I believed). I've come to see that that statement was BS. - kick isn't as important as a bunch of other things. You should work on it, but it shouldn't be your prime focus area...

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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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So it is a witch?

FTW!
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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [polynice] [ In reply to ]
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In Washington and Oregon, the water temperature rarely gets above 65 degrees and in some races have been down to 54 degrees. Wetsuits are kind of good for that.

Wetsuits help new beginners by keeping their legs during the surface....BUT....so does learning how to kick.

As far as your coach with the legs, sure you can "save your legs", but that is short-sighted advice. For the long term, You may as well learn to kick and build the endurance. You won't find Front-of-pack swimmers just dragging their legs.
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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
To give you a convenient place to pee before a race and have some mental semblance of privacy

Yep, but just make sure you are in the water before you let loose. Otherwise, you might have some explaining to do.
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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [Henrik33] [ In reply to ]
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Henrik33 wrote:
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So it is a witch?


FTW!

+1. And should be burned???

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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [polynice] [ In reply to ]
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I have heard numbers thrown around on time advantages of 5-10% for a wetsuit legal swim. As other posters have mentioned it generally helps the weaker swimmers more as it really helps keep your hips and legs from dragging.
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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [TropicPlace] [ In reply to ]
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TropicPlace wrote:
Tri-Banter wrote:
To give you a convenient place to pee before a race and have some mental semblance of privacy


Yep, but just make sure you are in the water before you let loose. Otherwise, you might have some explaining to do.

Now you tell me :-|

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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [manofthewoods] [ In reply to ]
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Wetsuits are for swimmers who are not competent open water swimmers to actually attempt triathlons.
And once one person wears one, everyone else does to keep pace in the arms race.

PS That 15 degree C FINA rule is total crap. Competent, acclimated, trained swimmers can and race down to about 10.
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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
To give you a convenient place to pee before a race and have some mental semblance of privacy

You need a wetsuit for that?

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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [Rumpled] [ In reply to ]
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Rumpled wrote:
Wetsuits are for swimmers who are not competent open water swimmers to actually attempt triathlons.
And once one person wears one, everyone else does to keep pace in the arms race.

PS That 15 degree C FINA rule is total crap. Competent, acclimated, trained swimmers can and race down to about 10.

This may be true but actually the rule is 16 to 31 degrees C, or 60.8 to 87.8 degrees F. The following is from the FINA OWS Rules for 2013-17:

OWS 5.5 The water temperature should be a minimum of 16°C and a maximum of 31°C. It
should be checked the day of the race, 2 hours before the start, in the middle of the course
at a depth of 40 cm. This control should be done in the presence of a Commission made
up of the following persons present: a Referee, a member of the Organizing Committee and
one coach from the teams present designated during the Technical Meeting.


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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [ericmulk] [ In reply to ]
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One other benefit of a suit is protection from floating jellies...I discovered this only after doing a practice swim the day before an event without a wetsuit.
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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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"well, that was the original intent...."

well...


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Re: Point of a Wetsuit [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, when Jason wrote "original intent," I thought we might actually find out...so what was your intent?

Personally I figure you just wanted to make some money!
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