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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [robabeatle] [ In reply to ]
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I read a review that weighed the bont zero + as 502 g for the pair. Seems too heavy. Maybe weighed with cleats?

That is likely the stated weight of the shoe. 250g is actually fairly light for a shoe. It wasn't long ago that the Specialized S-works Road Shoe was above 260 grams. It has since been slimmed down. Given the wide profile of the Bont shoe, plus dials, cover etc I can't see this shoe getting any lighter than 225 grams. Before the SLX came out the lightest shoe I was aware of was the Pearl Izumi Octane at 195 grams


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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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If I can remember, I will bring the size 45 bont to work tomorrow where we have some decent digital scales. I will only be able to measure the one shoe accurately as there is a small chuck missing out of the heel plastic piece on the other.

*Admission* after seeing that the performance return policy requires shoes to be new, I have worn the empires for a few days and am getting to like them more. Still have a running ebay search for size 46 bonts though. My gf is ribbing me about my recent obsession with shoes. She likens it to a character's preoccupation on "sex in the city."
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [robabeatle] [ In reply to ]
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robabeatle wrote:
If I can remember, I will bring the size 45 bont to work tomorrow where we have some decent digital scales. I will only be able to measure the one shoe accurately as there is a small chuck missing out of the heel plastic piece on the other.

*Admission* after seeing that the performance return policy requires shoes to be new, I have worn the empires for a few days and am getting to like them more. Still have a running ebay search for size 46 bonts though. My gf is ribbing me about my recent obsession with shoes. She likens it to a character's preoccupation on "sex in the city."

No worries on the obsession, as many know I am working on my own custom shoe project with Rocket7. The goal is to get an even more comfortable pair of shoes (custom), that is light, and possibly even more aerodynamic. I was less than thrilled about the cost, but having a few people rave about custom fit over their years I figured I better check it out. It still makes me slightly sick to my stomach thinking about how much they cost but on the flip side I also see how many hours Rocket7 is putting in them as well and I know that the reality of something that is individual and not mass produced is expensive.

The way my Giros are setup they are actually sub 160grams for 42.5


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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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I am looking at picking up a pair of the SLX and currently am in the PI Tri Fly Carbon size 47. Am I going to be the same size in the Giro SLX?
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [HonestYP] [ In reply to ]
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks TG, I was afraid of that. I hate having flippers for feet sometimes.
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
robabeatle wrote:
If I can remember, I will bring the size 45 bont to work tomorrow where we have some decent digital scales. I will only be able to measure the one shoe accurately as there is a small chuck missing out of the heel plastic piece on the other.

*Admission* after seeing that the performance return policy requires shoes to be new, I have worn the empires for a few days and am getting to like them more. Still have a running ebay search for size 46 bonts though. My gf is ribbing me about my recent obsession with shoes. She likens it to a character's preoccupation on "sex in the city."


No worries on the obsession, as many know I am working on my own custom shoe project with Rocket7. The goal is to get an even more comfortable pair of shoes (custom), that is light, and possibly even more aerodynamic. I was less than thrilled about the cost, but having a few people rave about custom fit over their years I figured I better check it out. It still makes me slightly sick to my stomach thinking about how much they cost but on the flip side I also see how many hours Rocket7 is putting in them as well and I know that the reality of something that is individual and not mass produced is expensive.

The way my Giros are setup they are actually sub 160grams for 42.5

Size 42.5 Bont, wide size, right shoe only, no insole (use custom, took it out), speedplay walkable cleat = 276g (it is also a bit dirty, so take off a few gs)
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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My left Bont zero + size 45 is coming in at 269.3 grams.
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [jakesdk] [ In reply to ]
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jakesdk wrote:
Size 42.5 Bont, wide size, right shoe only, no insole (use custom, took it out), speedplay walkable cleat = 276g (it is also a bit dirty, so take off a few gs)

Now I have to weigh the walkable cleatsn ;) Seems to be quite a bit lighter shoe than the poster below albeit for a shoe that is 2.5 sizes smaller. Not sure how much the insole weighs but can't be more than 15-20grams and I presume your insole weighs something as well.


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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, sorry! racing soon and don't want to mess with cleats that work..

My custom insoles are a bit heavy, but i agree a normal insole should be in that range.
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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I think anyone that's been following the Giro SLX threads will appreciate pro rider Adam Hansen's custom cycling shoes.

Awesome IMO.

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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Timtek] [ In reply to ]
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Those are incredible...

Brent

DFRU - Detta Family Racing Unit...the kids like it and we all get out and after it...gotta keep the fam involved!
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, with custom insoles the weight of the Bont, size 42.5, wide, speedplay aero walkable cleats, is 333g

The Giro, in size 43, walkable cleats and same custom insoles, is 300g.

Yes, the weight of the insoles makes me a little sad..
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Timtek] [ In reply to ]
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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White shoes are never fun
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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How about the new Giro Men's Sentrie Techlace Cycling Shoe? Does the dial closure negate any aero benefits?
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Bscheel] [ In reply to ]
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White shoes are never fun


White shoes only! :)

My new Giro Empire SLX - used only for road riding! :)




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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Fleck wrote:
White shoes are never fun


White shoes only! :)

My new Giro Empire SLX - used only for road riding! :)



Pretty sweet looking shoes, i guess as a triathlete all my white ones turn brown the second theres a beach at T1 haha
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Bscheel] [ In reply to ]
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Pretty sweet looking shoes, i guess as a triathlete all my white ones turn brown the second theres a beach at T1 haha


Giro has thought out well the surface material and texture of these shoes. They shed a remarkable amount of dirt and grime and come clean with a wipe of a damp cloth and a bit of soap after a wet ride.

Also because, there are now straps, rachets etc, for micro dirt/grit to collect in, the whole of the upper retains a clean look. The orginal white laces do get soiled easily and that's why I go with the black laces (which they come with when new anyway)! :)

My previous Empire ACC, also white - now my back-up shoes - are 3 years old and still look almost new!


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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas,

Were Jesse Thomas and Michi Weiss using some derivation of your modified Empire SLX yesterday?
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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Poon] [ In reply to ]
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Poon wrote:
Thomas,

Were Jesse Thomas and Michi Weiss using some derivation of your modified Empire SLX yesterday?

Jesse Thomas has rocked the SLX's before but yesterday and I believe Augusta and 70.3 worlds as well, he wore the prolight techlace.

http://www.giro.com/...olight-techlace.html

Not trying to take anything away from TG..... his concept/idea still applies here.

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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Poon] [ In reply to ]
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Poon wrote:
Thomas,

Were Jesse Thomas and Michi Weiss using some derivation of your modified Empire SLX yesterday?

There are a few pros using them or some derivative. Antoney Costes and Matt Russell are two others. I have seen Thomas rock the Giro Empire SLX but it looks like he choose the Prolight for this one. Here is a pic on Tririg. The Prolight look like they are much more breathable than the Empire SLX which would be a plus for Kona. I assume he may have detached the velcro strips from the shoe but I can't really tell from the photo. It appears he is using Inmaker laces or something similar.


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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [trimac2] [ In reply to ]
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trimac2 wrote:
How about the new Giro Men's Sentrie Techlace Cycling Shoe? Does the dial closure negate any aero benefits?

I'm pretty sure it would, but I just ordered up some shoes that have identical outsoles: one with laces the other with a single BOA closure plus a single strap. I'll aero test them in the next few weeks and see what I come up with.

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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
Poon wrote:
Thomas,

Were Jesse Thomas and Michi Weiss using some derivation of your modified Empire SLX yesterday?


There are a few pros using them or some derivative. Antoney Costes and Matt Russell are two others. I have seen Thomas rock the Giro Empire SLX but it looks like he choose the Prolight for this one. Here is a pic on Tririg. The Prolight look like they are much more breathable than the Empire SLX which would be a plus for Kona. I assume he may have detached the velcro strips from the shoe but I can't really tell from the photo. It appears he is using Inmaker laces or something similar.


I can't link it right now but they are on the Tririg post on his bike...good pics.

ETA: http://www.tririg.com/..._Marquise&num=29

Brent

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Re: PSA: New Giro Empire SLX - $175 many colors and sizes. [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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TG, first thanks for your blog post on these a while back. Got myself a pair, surgically removed the tongue, added some elastic laces, and I love them. No problem at all with flying mounts.

But now that I've dropped this $$ and effort in shoes... my pedals are bugging me. I've heard you mention pedal testing.. I'm riding with Powertap P1s right now as my power source. Heavy and clunky. Definite fail the "does it look fast" test.

Have you tried these shoes with speedplays or other pedals? I'm thinking about making the switch but I'm having trouble discerning if I'm actually giving up time akin to big straps with my pedals or if I'm going of the aero-deep-end (even farther).

Too old to go pro but doing it anyway
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