I just recently installed my Zipp 808's that used to be on my Speed Concept, onto my 2017 CAAD12. Before that, I put Mavic Cosmic Carbone on this bike. As far as looks and appearance, the Zipp 808's really make this bike look sick. I got so many other bikers just staring at this, gawking. But little do they know, I hate these wheels because it feels like I am riding through mud. They just feel so heavy, I can't accelerate as fast, can't corner as well, and any hills even small ones I get dropped. The Cosmic Carbone's just seem like the perfect all around wheel. It does everything the Zipp does except maybe on the flats it is a bit slower.
But since I do not race, I was fine just tooling around and riding slow through the bike trail. However, today I rode with a guy I see from time to time on the trail. We decided to ride together but I could tell he was a good rider and he likes to go very fast. I had no problems on the flats but the corners he was peddling through them while I was coasting. I didn't have the skills or the confidence to ride like that. Then, on some of the trail there were gentle rolling hills and it really sucked because he was pulling away from me slowly but surely. Anyway, he was a little cocky because when I asked him how fast we were going, he would tell me how fast he was going when he passed me.
anyway, do you all agree that for a road bike, the Cosmic Carbone's is probably a better wheel set then the 808's? I seldom see guys with dish wheels that deep on a road bike. The reason the 808's seemed fine on my Trek Speed Concept was because I only go in a straight line and I avoid hills and I only ride on flat roads. But after getting my first experience with a guy who likes the twisty roads, it seems the 808's is the wrong wheel set.
But I have to also ask myself, do I really want to ride with a guy who rides through the bike trail so recklessly? the way he attacks those corners i feel it will only be a matter of time before he hits a stone or a twig and wipe out. I also don't like how he goes though corners not knowing who is behind the blind corners. That said, it would be foolish I feel to continue to ride with someone who is fast fast fast because I think the faster you go on a twisty bike trail, it will only be a matter of time before a crash occurs. I always ride slow through the trails.
But since I do not race, I was fine just tooling around and riding slow through the bike trail. However, today I rode with a guy I see from time to time on the trail. We decided to ride together but I could tell he was a good rider and he likes to go very fast. I had no problems on the flats but the corners he was peddling through them while I was coasting. I didn't have the skills or the confidence to ride like that. Then, on some of the trail there were gentle rolling hills and it really sucked because he was pulling away from me slowly but surely. Anyway, he was a little cocky because when I asked him how fast we were going, he would tell me how fast he was going when he passed me.
anyway, do you all agree that for a road bike, the Cosmic Carbone's is probably a better wheel set then the 808's? I seldom see guys with dish wheels that deep on a road bike. The reason the 808's seemed fine on my Trek Speed Concept was because I only go in a straight line and I avoid hills and I only ride on flat roads. But after getting my first experience with a guy who likes the twisty roads, it seems the 808's is the wrong wheel set.
But I have to also ask myself, do I really want to ride with a guy who rides through the bike trail so recklessly? the way he attacks those corners i feel it will only be a matter of time before he hits a stone or a twig and wipe out. I also don't like how he goes though corners not knowing who is behind the blind corners. That said, it would be foolish I feel to continue to ride with someone who is fast fast fast because I think the faster you go on a twisty bike trail, it will only be a matter of time before a crash occurs. I always ride slow through the trails.