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Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat
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I'll keep the back story as short as I can. If you are not interested, skip down to I Got fat.

Back story:
I'm a longtime reader (Lurker) of this forum and I have been inspired and educated about a great many things with regard to triathlon over the years. I never signed up to post because I didn't have anything useful to add. I have only signed up now because I find myself in a position to offer something I have not seen on this forum. This post is about what happens when the wheels fall off and you find yourself fat.

This forum is full of people with incredible fitness that are capable of incredible feats of athleticism. That's not me, never was. I was fit, but never so fit that I was mistaken for a walking skeleton. My love of Cheese did me in!

Starting at age 28 I completed 5 full distance Ironmans (CDA), a couple halves, and some sprints over about 7 years. I am 5'-10" and I usually made it to race day at about 163lbs. I never had a coach. I would train about 12-16 hours a week. My cold northern climate reduced my outdoor training a lot, so trainers and treadmills were my life. Most importantly I had the worst thing any athlete could have, an 8 to 5 desk job. It was a high stress job that very often would get in the way of my scheduled workouts. Throw in family obligations and it was rare that I would hit every weekly goal. Getting to my first ironman nearly killed me because I had no idea what I was doing. I was horribly malnourished and poorly rested and it caused a severe lung issue 8 weeks before the race. My oxygen levels were in the low 80% range and I felt like death for 2 weeks. They patched me up and I was able to finish the first ironman in 14:26 (7 weeks after being hospitalized). It was not fast, but I was just happy to make it to the race. I got better with my nutrition and training and I improved my times. After my 3rd ironman I had some hip issues (due to poor running form I'm sure). So I stopped racing. I thought I was done with triathlon at this point. My hip healed but I still thought I was done.

About a year later I signed up for ironman again in 2012. I don't know why, I just did it. I read the forums and I know that my times were never anything special, so why bother. There are guys on here that can take 2 months off and still do an 11:00 ironman. On my 4th ironman I posted a 13:01 finish time (1:21 swim, 6:20 bike, 5:06 run). Still not fast by Slowtwitch standards, but I was 993 out of 2100. So I signed up again. Unfortunately when I came back in 2013 my job and other commitments had snowballed and really interfered with training. My business was in chaos, my training was horrible, and I showed up at 175lbs (BMI 25.1, Technically Overweight). I pushed hard and produced a pretty average bike leg, then I ran 200 yards out of the change tent and knew I had nothing left for the run. My choices were to bury myself and still be slow, or just walk/jog and save my joints. I chose the latter. While I was finishing the run leg, I was not thinking that I was done with ironman. I was thinking that this was a turning point. I had let my training go to hell and this was my rock bottom. It was time to start fresh and really get my nutrition and training back in order. I crossed the finish line somewhere north of 14:00, but I don't feel like looking it up. It was a sad effort, but an honest reflection of my poor condition. I was however looking forward to getting back to training. I had been passed by far too many people with 52, 55 on their calf and I wanted to put in a time more reflective of my age. I was also now thinking about the legacy program (because everyone dreams of Kona). I was thinking of doing 2 IM each year to get to 12 sooner.

And then......

I Got Fat:
This is the part that no one ever talks about on this forum. This is the part were I never signed up for another race. I never even cleaned my bike after the last race. I put it on a hook and left it for 20 months. I didn't swim, I didn't run, I didn't eat healthy. I would always take a month off after my ironman races and go fishing and camping, but something was different after that last race. I didn't sign up for another event, so I had nothing to shoot for, and as it turns out I need something to shoot for. I'm not a food addict, I just engaged in the typical american diet and stopped exercising. My weight went up slowly at first, 180, 185. I wasn't panicking because I knew I could come back from that. Then suddenly a year had passed and I hadn't exercised much at all. I climbed on the scale and I was 200lbs. Then 2 months ago I hit 210. I have stabilized and even lost a few pounds now that the holidays have passed, but the damage is done. There is no easy way back from this.

So here is the advice. Don't stop doing races, even if you are slow. An upcoming race keeps you away from the dessert tray, it makes you workout on Easter, it keeps you from doing the things that will make you fat. I love to read this forum and find people talking about Kona qualifying and endless discussions on fastest wheel sets, but I need to put that stuff in perspective. I have 40 pounds of dead weight to get rid of. I never raced to raise money for charity or sick kids. Maybe the only reason I raced was to keep me going to the gym. The training allowed me to overcome the horrible curse of a desk job and the disaster of processed food. I still love reading about about seconds saved by tire pressure and looking at bike porn, but maybe there is something different I can do here. I am planning to make some periodic updates as I try to figure out what to do. This post may end up being a way of spilling my guts to myself and starting to make changes. If nobody comments or reads it I will not take it personal. Like I said this might end up being for my benefit only.

Or this post could get hijacked and everyone can call me a fat ass. Either way, its just the internet, I can't take it too serious.

I have taken the "Before" photo. It is too horrendous to post for now. Just picture normal healthy male that looks 5 months pregnant. I need to get down 15-20 pounds so I can add a progress picture and preserve some dignity.
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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What you need to do is go enter a race! Doesn't matter what it is, a 5K, a sprint, a sportive/gran fondo, a team event, anything to give you a target again.

I have similar tendencies to you (suspect many of us do), but have never let it get as far as you did. Furthest I ever got was about 25lbs beyond what I should be, and that was when I was unable to train for 6 months due to injury, and then after an op to get it fixed it took another 6 months before I really got into the routine again. Once I finally snapped out of it, those 25lbs came off in 3 months just by eating sensibly and training every day. 40lbs is a lot but it's not that much - you can shift that sort of weight in well under a year without doing anything too extreme.

Good luck!
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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If you think carefully about your situation, the answer is clear. When people focus on exercise to lose weight, what happens when they can no longer exercise, or choose to stop? If instead you focus on eating habits and proper diet, it does not matter if you exercise or not, you will still remain lean. Now is the time for you to start a dedicated focus on cleaning up your diet and developing life long changes in how you eat. You cannot out exercise a bad diet, at least not forever. I always say that exercise is for fitness, and nutrition is for weight loss.

Read as much as you can, pick an approach and just go for it. Learning about nutrition is a life long endeavor.

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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds like you know that having a race as a goal is a pretty good motivator for you to eat healthy and tri train.


A few clarifying questions:

What's good for you (physically, mentally, emotionally, socially) about having a race as a goal?

What's not so good?

What are the things (physically, mentally, emotionally, socially) that may get in the way of getting to your goal race?

What do you hope to get (physically, mentally, emotionally, socially) out of your goal race?

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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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It's fantastic that you have taken the first step to getting your health turned around! Have you ever thought about concentrating on a different distance? It sounds like the requirements of the Iron distance is not always conducive to your sanity with your job and family obligations. Why not 8-10 hours a week of training and working to become the best Olympic distance triathlete you can be? I always find it unfortunate how people don't view themselves as triathletes if they don't go Iron. Do what makes the most sense for you and your situation...not what you perceive the community has dictated.
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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Most importantly I had the worst thing any athlete could have, an 8 to 5 desk job. It was a high stress job that very often would get in the way of my scheduled workouts. Throw in family obligations and it was rare that I would hit every weekly goal. Getting to my first ironman nearly killed me because I had no idea what I was doing.



I dream of an 8-5 desk job. Try 6:30 to whenever all of the work is done, often times very late in the evenings........

I echo other people's thoughts. Sign up for a race. Pay attention to your diet. Find something that inspires you to get active again.

I like to race, but for me this is a lifestyle choice. I like to feel fit and be able to look in the mirror without cringing. Even if I weren't racing, I would be training in some form or another.

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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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Yep, always schedule races year round. I find that even if very few of them are "A" races, having at least one race, even a lowly local tiny 5k run, every 3 months minimum, keeps me from falling off the training bandwagon.

But think of the upside - with your background in IM, you have a huge advantage to losing weight - you already have the knoweldge/experience to train a LOT. Once you get back on the bandwagon, even if you're slow at first, it'll improve quickly and the first 20 lbs will literally melt off. The weight loss doesn't get that hard until you've lost most of the extra baggage.
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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Very similar backstory, but after 5 IMs I got sick of committing major hours per week spinning/biking near 10 hours every weekend.

I am still doing 5 marys/ultras per year, but without the bike volume keeping the weight down is tough. Unfortunately I'm still eating like I'm in training mode and 10lbs higher than comfortable and 20lbs higher than peak performance.

The trick for me will be to adjust my diet based on how much I work out.

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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [badgertri] [ In reply to ]
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X2

Focus on shorter distances like olympic or sprint. Pick a 5 or 10K race and train for a PR.

Sounds like training/racing iron distance burned you out. So why keep doing it?
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [Mike Prevost] [ In reply to ]
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Mike Prevost wrote:
If you think carefully about your situation, the answer is clear. When people focus on exercise to lose weight, what happens when they can no longer exercise, or choose to stop? If instead you focus on eating habits and proper diet, it does not matter if you exercise or not, you will still remain lean. Now is the time for you to start a dedicated focus on cleaning up your diet and developing life long changes in how you eat. You cannot out exercise a bad diet, at least not forever. I always say that exercise is for fitness, and nutrition is for weight loss.

Read as much as you can, pick an approach and just go for it. Learning about nutrition is a life long endeavor.

Where is the "like" button... words to live by.. I have to keep this in mind.
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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Hello.

I am a carbon copy of you. After my last race I put the bike away for 2 years. Life got in the way and I put on 30lbs. Now I am ready to kick it into gear and have been running for a month (more like run walk) and have started riding my bike.

If you like, and we have enough other interested members on this site we could start a Fat to Fit challenge so we can all hold each other accountable.
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [Triagain2(FTDA)] [ In reply to ]
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Triagain2(FTDA) wrote:
Hello.

I am a carbon copy of you. After my last race I put the bike away for 2 years. Life got in the way and I put on 30lbs. Now I am ready to kick it into gear and have been running for a month (more like run walk) and have started riding my bike.

If you like, and we have enough other interested members on this site we could start a Fat to Fit challenge so we can all hold each other accountable.

This is a great idea.. but sounds very thoughtful and kind. Are we sure we are on ST?
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [BorrachoMatador] [ In reply to ]
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BorrachoMatador wrote:
Triagain2(FTDA) wrote:
Hello.

I am a carbon copy of you. After my last race I put the bike away for 2 years. Life got in the way and I put on 30lbs. Now I am ready to kick it into gear and have been running for a month (more like run walk) and have started riding my bike.

If you like, and we have enough other interested members on this site we could start a Fat to Fit challenge so we can all hold each other accountable.


This is a great idea.. but sounds very thoughtful and kind. Are we sure we are on ST?

I usually hang out in the LR, where thoughtful and kind is the norm.

Any ideas on the mechanics of such a challenge?
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [Mike Prevost] [ In reply to ]
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MP is spot on with this. Focus on the diet. You'll lose more weight by making good food choices than by doing endless 15hr training weeks (and not paying attention to diet...because you know what'll happen when the exercise stops), especially as you get older...
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [Triagain2(FTDA)] [ In reply to ]
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A Strava club would be my route, easy and free way to track what everyone is doing from a distance.
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [BorrachoMatador] [ In reply to ]
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Never thought of that approach, I was leaning towards a slowtwitch challenge, Like the 100/100 challenge.
I will start a thread for ideas.
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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Hang your before picture on the fridge, you will seriously question that treat (beer) you are reaching for.

My wife and I both packed on an extra 40-50 lbs during college. We both had the, "I used to be really fast at my sports, now I am fat and breathe heavy tying my shoes," moment. Fast forward a couple years we have shed a collective 100 lbs, she qualified for AG nats and I ran nearly a standing 5k pr in my one and only tri. We have added 6 bikes to the stable since graduation and countless pairs of running shoes, swim suits, goggles and so many pool toys it is retarded. Our one bedroom apartment looks like a tri shop.

Find a local tri team/club that isn't super competitive and hosts runs, rides and swims and now your training is socializing, not just suffering. Having a team around and a great social side to it all really keeps the burnout away.

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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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Since you're in a northern climate and tri training in the north sucks...
-You can try to spice up your trainer rides with stuff like Tour de Giro, Zwift, BKool, Netathlon, or the like (all of these do online bike racing). Tour de Giro has an FTP-handicapped mode so that you can compete at the head of the race at any fitness level, which can be pretty motivational. Zwift probably has enough users at this point that you can get a social ride in any time of day.
-Try out alternate sports! Speed-skating and xc skiing can both be done in tons of places and let you get outside. If your city has a hockey rink, it probably has a short-track speed skating team. If it has a golf course and snow, it probably has xc ski routes.

I also echo that you may have just gotten burned out on IM training. You can still lose weight and gain fitness doing only 4-5 hours a week, as long as they're fairly intense and paired with alright eating habits. When I did my one and only 70.3, I couldn't believe how boring and long both the training and the racing was. I respect the people that enjoy that kind of stuff, but maybe you are (now?) a shorter-course kind of person.

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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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Congratulations, no BS, the first step is the hardest and it sounds like you have taken it. Enjoy the journey back to your best health, there is no destination, it is all about the journey.

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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting reading the responses. It really is not that had to stay skinny, you just have to really care. Just like racing fast, you just have to really care.

At 6'5" and 160, I know what it takes to stay skinny! It takes the same dedication that causes me to got to bed at 7 each night and get up a 4 each morning, all year long to exercise.
All one has to do is get on the scale every night like I do. Based on what it tells me, it determines for the next day how much I can eat and what. I go up in weight, for whatever reason,
I get no cookies and ice cream. I get to my low number, and I get to pig out.

If I am exercising a lot, I get more days of cookies and ice cream than not. If I am not exercising as much, I just do not get the junk food.

When folks say they have gained weight, I ask if they were checking their weight each night on the scale. I get a blank stare.

Good luck and become friends with your scale which is your feedback to what you can eat.
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Re: Never Stop Racing - I Got Fat [bobdozer619] [ In reply to ]
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Racing Weight by Matt Fitzgerald is a good place to start for the diet.

I've managed to lose 70 pounds so far and have a realistic 20 to go. I am 35 and that would put me into my 8th grade weight. Ideally old like to lose another 30, which could be stuff given my start point and what I've done to my body.

Please feel free to PM me if I can be of any help. Questions, accountability, etc. I'm always here.
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h2ofun wrote:
Interesting reading the responses. It really is not that had to stay skinny, you just have to really care. Just like racing fast, you just have to really care.
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This is the problem though. It is so easy to stop caring just a little.

I was a lean 145lbs (5'7") when I signed up to do my first Ironman (IMLT 2013). Now that sign-up happened in June 2012 for a Sept 2013 race. Between June of 2012 and January of 2013 (when I really started thinking about getting the focused training started), I put on a few lbs (up to 155, not a ton of weight) just from not really paying attention to what I ate. Then I held steady all the way up to race day and raced around 155.

Post-race, I stopped paying attention to food, holidays, etc, but I kept eating like I was at full training load. Oops I found myself at 170. Next IM was June 2014 and again I didn't pay any attention to what I ate, but this time got down to 165 for race day. Still 20lbs too heavy for me.

What got me back to the 145 I am now was focused attention on food. All the training helps (and hell, allows me to eat a lot), but without paying CLOSE attention to food, I found it *really* hard to drop any meaningful amount of weight.
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h2ofun wrote:
It really is not that had to stay skinny

It's may not be that hard for you. You have no idea how hard it is for others.
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noofus wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
Interesting reading the responses. It really is not that had to stay skinny, you just have to really care. Just like racing fast, you just have to really care.
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This is the problem though. It is so easy to stop caring just a little.

I was a lean 145lbs (5'7") when I signed up to do my first Ironman (IMLT 2013). Now that sign-up happened in June 2012 for a Sept 2013 race. Between June of 2012 and January of 2013 (when I really started thinking about getting the focused training started), I put on a few lbs (up to 155, not a ton of weight) just from not really paying attention to what I ate. Then I held steady all the way up to race day and raced around 155.

Post-race, I stopped paying attention to food, holidays, etc, but I kept eating like I was at full training load. Oops I found myself at 170. Next IM was June 2014 and again I didn't pay any attention to what I ate, but this time got down to 165 for race day. Still 20lbs too heavy for me.

What got me back to the 145 I am now was focused attention on food. All the training helps (and hell, allows me to eat a lot), but without paying CLOSE attention to food, I found it *really* hard to drop any meaningful amount of weight.

Man do I agree! I heard that 70% of weight issues has to do with what and how much you eat, not about exercise!! So sorry, if you put junk in your mouth, with quantity, you are screwed. I am now training like 3.5 hours
a day a few days a week and I still have to diet to stay around race weight!!!

Again, my wife and I get on the scale every night. I put what I eat and how much I weigh in my nightly diary. Just takes focus like the same focus to exercise. So few folks seem to have the drive, but that is another story.

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Thom wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
It really is not that had to stay skinny


It's may not be that hard for you. You have no idea how hard it is for others.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Not eating all I want is hard. Going to bed each night at 7 to 7:30 is hard. Getting up each morning at 4 am is hard.
Training 1 to 3.5 hours a day is hard. Just takes focus and will power. Do not need a coach for this. Just the person you see in the mirror.

But if one wants to be the best they can be, one cannot have excuses. This is why when I see so many ask basically how to take short cuts to be good, one just needs
to ask if they train all year long, get enough sleep, and stay at race weight all year long. The top folks answers yes to all of these.

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