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Motorist Saturation And Bicycles
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Hello All,

https://www.census.gov/popclock/

The world human population continues to increase on the finite geography of Spaceship Earth ........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle

and worldwide motor vehicle registrations continue to increase ....... about 10 fold from 1960 to 2014.

The number of motor vehicles may be reaching a saturation level in some areas ..... where any further increase in the number of vehicles is counterproductive because of overcrowding traffic delay.

Recently in Singapore:

"Road Traffic Act of Singapore. The Road Traffic Act limits the speed of all vehicles travelling along Singapore roads to 50km/h, unless otherwise stated.Nov 28, 2016

https://futurism.com/...o-its-roads-in-2018/

The city-state of Singapore has announced a plan to reduce the vehicle growth rate from 0.25 percent per year to 0 percent for cars and motorcycles. Due to the limited space available, Singapore controls the number of vehicles on the road to a great degree. [emphasis added]




http://www.businessinsider.com/...-car-free-ban-2017-8

"13 cities that are starting to ban cars"

"Oslo plans to permanently ban all cars from its city center by 2019 — six years before Norway's country-wide ban would go into effect."



I admit to a bit of propaganda in image size here to emphasize the point ..... about real estate used by various modes of transport.

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Whether autonomous vehicles will add or diminish traffic congestion is being debated and we probably will not know until sufficient numbers of AV's are in the wild .... but if the AV bicycle sensing works well ..... they may be a huge improvement over human driven motorcars.

This trend to ban motorcars and limit motorcar speed .... if continued ..... could bode well for cyclists ..... and offset some of the 'bikelash' we are seeing to traffic calming and separated bike lanes here in the US.

(Looking for some good news .... to look forward to ..... after reading of all the terrible motorist/bicycle crashes.)


What do you think?

Cheers, Neal

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Re: Motorist Saturation And Bicycles [nealhe] [ In reply to ]
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Cities have to stop doing dumb things like putting hospitals in the centre, they should be around the peripherals.
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Re: Motorist Saturation And Bicycles [nealhe] [ In reply to ]
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nealhe wrote:
Hello All,

https://www.census.gov/popclock/

The world human population continues to increase on the finite geography of Spaceship Earth ........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle

and worldwide motor vehicle registrations continue to increase ....... about 10 fold from 1960 to 2014.

The number of motor vehicles may be reaching a saturation level in some areas ..... where any further increase in the number of vehicles is counterproductive because of overcrowding traffic delay.

Recently in Singapore:

"Road Traffic Act of Singapore. The Road Traffic Act limits the speed of all vehicles travelling along Singapore roads to 50km/h, unless otherwise stated.Nov 28, 2016

https://futurism.com/...o-its-roads-in-2018/

The city-state of Singapore has announced a plan to reduce the vehicle growth rate from 0.25 percent per year to 0 percent for cars and motorcycles. Due to the limited space available, Singapore controls the number of vehicles on the road to a great degree. [emphasis added]




http://www.businessinsider.com/...-car-free-ban-2017-8

"13 cities that are starting to ban cars"

"Oslo plans to permanently ban all cars from its city center by 2019 — six years before Norway's country-wide ban would go into effect."



I admit to a bit of propaganda in image size here to emphasize the point ..... about real estate used by various modes of transport.

===============================

Whether autonomous vehicles will add or diminish traffic congestion is being debated and we probably will not know until sufficient numbers of AV's are in the wild .... but if the AV bicycle sensing works well ..... they may be a huge improvement over human driven motorcars.

This trend to ban motorcars and limit motorcar speed .... if continued ..... could bode well for cyclists ..... and offset some of the 'bikelash' we are seeing to traffic calming and separated bike lanes here in the US.

(Looking for some good news .... to look forward to ..... after reading of all the terrible motorist/bicycle crashes.)


What do you think?


No chance in hell until the speed of cars is down to below walking pace.... and by then, most will be unable to walk (ability to ride a bicycle will go sooner).

So we are going to built more highways, alternatively fueled cages, and fantasize on how human ingenuity (AI) can beat basic physics and biology.

It is actually quite hilarious to watch.....if you are into comedy.

Last edited by: windschatten: Oct 27, 17 22:25
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Re: Motorist Saturation And Bicycles [nealhe] [ In reply to ]
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Can't wait til AVs replace human "drivers". If it happens tomorrow it won't be fast enough.

'It never gets easier, you just get crazier.'
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Re: Motorist Saturation And Bicycles [windschatten] [ In reply to ]
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In some places, we're running out of surface space for vehicles, but we've barely begun to exploit the 3rd dimension in vehicle travel and traffic management. Not far behind autonomous ground vehicles will be autonomous drones. Jeesh, hasn't anyone ever watched the Jetsons?

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Re: Motorist Saturation And Bicycles [nealhe] [ In reply to ]
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nealhe wrote:


I admit to a bit of propaganda in image size here to emphasize the point ..... about real estate used by various modes of transport.

Everyone who uses this picture to try to push mass transit should be aware that, to the people you're trying to convince, the takeaway is not "looks how great and efficient mass transit is". Rather, the impression is "look how cramped and uncomfortable mass transit is, and how well you'll get to know random people who are in your personal space".

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that speed, for lack of a better word, is good. Speed is right, Speed works. Speed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.
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georged wrote:
Can't wait til AVs replace human "drivers". If it happens tomorrow it won't be fast enough.

I see the end-game of AV's to be the elimination of all human-controlled transportation from the public roadways. That would include bikes.

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Re: Motorist Saturation And Bicycles [brider] [ In reply to ]
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There's pretty strong government desire to increase physical activity and reduce obesity. I can see that keeping bicycles on the road.

'It never gets easier, you just get crazier.'
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Re: Motorist Saturation And Bicycles [georged] [ In reply to ]
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Lots of lip service, but no action. As soon as the programmers admit that they can't get the cars to avoid human traffic, the regulations will start designating roads to be AV only.

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lyrrad wrote:
Cities have to stop doing dumb things like putting hospitals in the centre, they should be around the peripherals.

Cities have to stop doing dumb things, like allowing cars in them.

Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.
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Re: Motorist Saturation And Bicycles [nealhe] [ In reply to ]
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The problem of cars in cities is entirely a geometric one: they are too large.

It doesn't matter if they are electric, clean, autonomous or whatever. It is a simple problem of space.

Cars do NOT belong in cities.

Cities that realize this, will still be here in a few decades. Cities that don't, will be history.

Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.
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Re: Motorist Saturation And Bicycles [nealhe] [ In reply to ]
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How are Norwegians going to get to their cottages without cars in 2025?

They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

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Re: Motorist Saturation And Bicycles [len] [ In reply to ]
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len wrote:
How are Norwegians going to get to their cottages without cars in 2025?

Same way they do today:

Ski ;-)
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