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Curious, What are the fastest skinsuits out there? Or rather, which brands and models have aero data to back them up? (No, the answer is not "the one that fits you best." This is beside the obvious…) I'm looking to get one in my quest toward aero TT level: Jedi.

Thanks!
Ryon

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Re: Most aero skinsuits [Ryon] [ In reply to ]
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Here's what I've tested, in order of aeroness, IMHO

1. Assos chronosuit - snug w/ thumb holds, zipper does not bunch up, chest tight, go 1 size smaller, well made and durable
2. Castelli body paint - construction looks fragile, zipper area bunched up a little
3. Hincapie signature - used this for the past 2 years, fit well and was durable
4. Voler - went 1 size smaller, fit was ok, not really a super aero solution
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [gtingley] [ In reply to ]
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The Castelli is awesome but a bit fragile as you noted. The seam just below the zipper has separated on two that I've had. Great fitting suit and super comfy chamois.
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [Ryon] [ In reply to ]
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Trawl through ebay till a nice team issue skinsuit comes up. I have one of the Australian national track team Santini skinsuits but I don't have any numbers to go with them.
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
The Castelli is awesome but a bit fragile as you noted. The seam just below the zipper has separated on two that I've had. Great fitting suit and super comfy chamois.

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Fit very nicely and the pad is really really good!


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Re: Most aero skinsuits [camaleon] [ In reply to ]
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The SMART skinsuit is supposed to be amazing, but very very pricey..!

http://www.smartaerotechnology.com/...o-products/clothing/
Last edited by: UKathlete: Aug 16, 12 2:19
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [UKathlete] [ In reply to ]
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Those SMART skinsuits have seams that look a lot like the BMC skinsuits this season... if BMC bought them from SMART they must be good!
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [gtingley] [ In reply to ]
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gtingley wrote:

Here's what I've tested, in order of aeroness, IMHO

1. Assos chronosuit - snug w/ thumb holds, zipper does not bunch up, chest tight, go 1 size smaller, well made and durable
2. Castelli body paint - construction looks fragile, zipper area bunched up a little
3. Hincapie signature - used this for the past 2 years, fit well and was durable
4. Voler - went 1 size smaller, fit was ok, not really a super aero solution

Gary, did you test the CS Speed Suit? if so, where did it fall on your list?
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [Ryon] [ In reply to ]
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I love my Castelli Bodypaint. I see a couple people saying it's fragile--boy I couldn't disagree more. I was wearing it and hit a section of wet, slick pavement and was promptly upside down sliding across the road (now I can never pretend like my TT bike has never gone down like everyone else on ST when they sell them). I couldn't believe how durable the skinsuit was. Got a little scufffed, but zero tears and sure saved me a ton of skin. Very impressed. Plus it fits like a glove, has a great pad, and just feels FAST
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [codec] [ In reply to ]
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Did not get a chance to test the CS
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [gtingley] [ In reply to ]
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If not having a Swami logo'd skinsuit counts, you might be able to find a Nike Swift on ebay. They show up now and then.

Otherwise, you're left with the Capo:-)
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [Ryon] [ In reply to ]
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bought a castelli san remo speed suit and it's really very good, fit is excellent(you should order one size up as it is very tight) BUT - the pad is totally different than the thin pad in the De Soto Forza i'm used to. for me i had to change my saddle on my road bike as it was bunching up weirdly on my Selle SMP Evo(switched back to the San Marco Ponza on my S1). otherwise, great fit, great wicking/cooling, and looks great( i have the Garmin-Barracuda version). time will tell, but after a couple of multi-hour rides, i'm quite happy.


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Re: Most aero skinsuits [hansonator69] [ In reply to ]
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I don't get this about the SMART skinsuits, why just white or black? You can spew all the marketingese you like about "cool black" and all, but no, black is not cool when you're racing in the South and it's 95 degrees and 95% humidity. And all white? Really? Seen that video of the tri babe testing her white suit in the tub? I'm no tri babe. Nobody will enjoy seeing my sights.
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [bobby11] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah I agree it's a little bit silly. If they were half white/half black like the Assos Chronosuit it would be perfect.
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [Ryon] [ In reply to ]
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I'd be interested in knowing if anyone makes a skin suit w/o logos and brand names plastered all over it. Or something very minimal at least.....just plain jane.
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [bobby11] [ In reply to ]
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bobby11 wrote:
I don't get this about the SMART skinsuits, why just white or black? You can spew all the marketingese you like about "cool black" and all, but no, black is not cool when you're racing in the South and it's 95 degrees and 95% humidity. And all white? Really? Seen that video of the tri babe testing her white suit in the tub? I'm no tri babe. Nobody will enjoy seeing my sights.

You can get a smart suit in whatever colour or design you want.
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [tim_sleepless] [ In reply to ]
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http://www.smartaerotechnology.com/...o-products/clothing/

According to this page on their website, you can get any color you like as long as it's black or white ... or you pay a huge upcharge for a setup fee and meet minimums, etc. Where are you getting that they're available in other colors?
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [Ryon] [ In reply to ]
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Bioracer has officially the fastest clothing in the world.
They made the suits of Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin, Kiryienka and many others.
I have seen differences of 20 watts compared to a bodypaint suit.
Even a lot more to all other brands. Only Castelli is able to keep up somewhat.
i have not seen tests compared to the the smart suit.

The special Nike suit was in an other test 0.5 sec per km slower.
Castelli was there 1 sec. per km slower but in a third test we have seen that going up to 1.5 sec per km.

It depends on the rider and setup but 99% of the time Bioracer suits come out as the winner.
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Re: Most aero skinsuits [56-11] [ In reply to ]
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56-11 wrote:
Bioracer has officially the fastest clothing in the world.
They made the suits of Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin, Kiryienka and many others.
I have seen differences of 20 watts compared to a bodypaint suit.
Even a lot more to all other brands. Only Castelli is able to keep up somewhat.
i have not seen tests compared to the the smart suit.

The special Nike suit was in an other test 0.5 sec per km slower.
Castelli was there 1 sec. per km slower but in a third test we have seen that going up to 1.5 sec per km.

It depends on the rider and setup but 99% of the time Bioracer suits come out as the winner.

Since you don't post much, you do know your replying to a 4 year old thread correct?


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Re: Most aero skinsuits [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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since it's back to the top wouldn't mind seeing a bioracer's actual #'s. And if we're wishing... vs. a Castelli vs. a SMART suit vs. A new Aerocoach Trip Suit

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Re: Most aero skinsuits [56-11] [ In reply to ]
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56-11 wrote:
Bioracer has officially the fastest clothing in the world.
They made the suits of Cancellara, Wiggins, Martin, Kiryienka and many others.
I have seen differences of 20 watts compared to a bodypaint suit.
Even a lot more to all other brands. Only Castelli is able to keep up somewhat.
i have not seen tests compared to the the smart suit.

The special Nike suit was in an other test 0.5 sec per km slower.
Castelli was there 1 sec. per km slower but in a third test we have seen that going up to 1.5 sec per km.

It depends on the rider and setup but 99% of the time Bioracer suits come out as the winner.

Thanks for the info! Can you link us to the data?

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Re: Most aero skinsuits [Ryon] [ In reply to ]
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I know it was a 4 year old tread but it is a subject that stays alive with many people.
I can't share the data in detail because it's from athletes that went testing at A2 / Faster / Cycologic and many other windtunnels.
They don't want their personal data on the the internet. I ask every time when i speak to one :)

But if you ask any athlete that used a Bioracer suit he will be happy to share their experience.
Why would otherwise all the pro's ride in them the last 4 years, even if they were not sponsored by them.

So for now i just wanted to share my experience with the forum for people that had questions about skin suits.
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