elevate yourself to the zen of Sean Kelly

Is he on tv?

Yup... 100%

Eurosport.

America's only 2x world champion is also featured on Eurosport

thanks

Now if only Liggett knew how to actually read a bike race. You'd think after this many years...

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Liggett can't hold a candle to the late David Duffield's meandering prose.... Usually he'd be talking about a nice cheese he had in a particular area of France just when the key move of the race is happening.

The Duffers was awesome....

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I'm convinced he and Sherwen are dead and they re-use spliced commentary.
Seriously, their expressions are so clichéd and over-used.

I don't mind the cliched prose so much, it's just Liggett's constant confusion. I enjoyed how after Cav's first sprint win (by half a bike length), Liggett was confused who won and said we'd have to go to the tape. And constantly confusing riders.

Was this supposed to be in pink? Liggett's soothing commentary? My goodness. Like nails on a chalkboard!

Give Eurosport a try.

Precisely!

Not to mention Liggett's calls are wrong more often than not.

X3. I will miss them (Liggett & Sherwen) when they are gone.

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DFL > DNF > DNS

Phil Liggett is like Phil Rizzuto; he's way past his prime, he's messing up a lot of calls, forgetting names, but when he breaks out one of his classic phrases it's gold.

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''Sweeney - you can both crush your AG *and* cruise in dead last!! 😂 '' Murphy's Law

His commentary is familiar in the way that a drunk uncle's rants about the gov'ment is sort of institutional banter you know and tolerate. Thanksgiving isn't the same without that uncle, but in truth you could do without him. Liggett is, for lack of better options, the voice of cycling for a generation. He did commentary when Greg Lemond was racing, for crying out loud.

The commentary of Sean Kelly is so much better, but you need to get a feed of Eurosport for it. The guy reads the race and knows the riders much better. He also calls the bullshit when he sees it.

I remember when he first started and he was practically catatonic. He's gotten really good, he clearly knows the riders in and out, knows what's going on in the race, etc.

Phil's problems start with not being able to recognize a significant percentage of the riders, let alone knowing them. This causes or is compounded by him not being able to recognize what he's looking at (the break, the back of the peloton, etc.) Then there is Phil and Paul always trying to make it seem so dramatic, even when it's not, e.g. the bunch rolling in on today's stage.

Phil has clearly lost his fastball, but his voice and catchphrases remain iconic enough for those of us who started watching pro cycling in the 80s & 90s that he's still the voice in my head when I'm imagining the phantom commentary out on my own rides. That sort of mythic seasoning will continue to endure, having survived the taint of Lance's ignominious stank, and even as his actual performance continues succumbing to the frailty of age.

Sherwen, on the other hand, has no such redeeming cachet, and I wish he would get crushed by a falling anvil, Wile E. Coyote-style. Fuck that dope. He pretty much encapsulates everything that's wrong with Phil as well, but in an even more cloying manner and without any of the offsetting positive legacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI7T2iuGjjc

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"I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 10, and I don't know why!"

That is absolutely brilliant!!

100% agree.

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Jens is pretty good at that, but even then he's been fallible on a couple o' stages already

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TriDork

"Happiness is a myth. All you can hope for is to get laid once in a while, drunk once in a while and to eat chocolate every day"

I mean, look at the damage being done on this thread... you guys are literally turning yourselves inside out!

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I just snorted my coffee over my desk. thanks for that....NOT

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"Happiness is a myth. All you can hope for is to get laid once in a while, drunk once in a while and to eat chocolate every day"

I just enjoy how Jens and Christian gently correct him every time they are on air with him.