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Fastyellow

Dec 10, 13 12:05

Post #76 of 103 (1085 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [starkrayz] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

starkrayz wrote:
Rokko wrote:
But this fact does not mean all cops are good at all times. There are bad cops out there. There are corrupt cops. Cops that use excessive force. Cops that run over cyclists in bike lanes.


To put it simply, Los Angeles leads the country in the employment of "thuggish" cops. It really isn't anything new to those of us who live out here. It doesn't help that the chief (Lee Baca) is a scumbag himself who works his magic to get constituents and celebrities out of jail. I don't think in the 15 yrs I've lived out here that I haven't seen a cruiser breaking the law, whether it be driving well above the speed limit (no lights) on the 405 or sailing through a neighborhood stop sign (a weekly observance living near an intersection and a police station). Any attempt to report ANYTHING to a watch commander will put you on an unfortunate blacklist which has happened to me and 2 separate neighbors (whose children have repeatedly dealt with near-misses by police cruisers).

Point is, outside of LA I'm sure there are squeaky-clean police officers who protect the public. And there possibly is a percentage of LA officers who somehow manage to avoid corruption. But I can certainly sympathize with anyone who lives out here who is getting sick & tired of the LAPD's behavior in the past 2 decades.

PS. We have several large dogs, 3 machetes, and multiple firearms. A perp would be long dead before a "cop" arrived at our house.


This post almost strikes me as comical. I've lived here my entire life (38years)....I grew up less than a quarter mile from this accident on Paul Revere Dr.

You have your opinion and I have mine and that's cool but my experiences with Law Enforcement in this area have been nothing but stellar. I've known several officers that work out of Lost Hills (this cruiser was almost certainly out of Lost Hills) and they are some of the best guys I know. I've trained with a ton of LAPD Swat guys through a local weapons and tactics training outfit and they have been nothing but professional in my dealings with them.

I'm not naive to the fact that shit goes on....but I just wanted to offer a vastly different opinion of our police here than the one presented above.

What I find amusing is the complete lack of patience in situations like this. The incident happened 24 hours ago,....I mean, can we give the police even a chance to do the right thing here? We don't even know what actions they're taking and we're already crucifying them. But that's Slowtwitch......ready, fire, aim. Per usual.

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stillrollin

Dec 10, 13 12:15

Post #77 of 103 (1067 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [AlanShearer] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

AlanShearer wrote:


Like I said, you watch too many tv shows.


And you state this as a fact too? Nice, that's twice you said things that you can't possibly know to be true.


(This post was edited by stillrollin on Dec 10, 13 12:16)


starkrayz

Dec 10, 13 12:44

Post #78 of 103 (1030 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [AlanShearer] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

AlanShearer wrote:
I'm not saying there isn't corruption in police departments, currently or in the past. But the level of professionalism, especially among police departments in California, has dramatically improved over the years, so much so that references to unions and codes protecting bad cops is by far the exception. (Police unions raise all kinds of problems, but their ability to protect and keep bad cops on the job is overstated.)
Either you are a spokesperson, a campaigner or a lawyer for the Sheriff's Dept because the "apologist" language is rather amusing, LOL. Nevertheless, the recent corruption probe (LA county jail) proves that business is usual in the Sheriff's Dept. The fact that 3 of those indicted were Internal Affairs investigators (!!) makes this federal probe almost more far-fetched than those fictional cop shows you accuse everyone of watching :)


HalfSpeed

Dec 10, 13 13:15

Post #79 of 103 (997 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [vikingstumps] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

vikingstumps wrote:
There are some witnesses stating the cyclist swerved into the lane in front of the patrol car. Lets pump the brakes alittle bit.
Funny how your post is being ignored. I was wondering if there were witnesses. There is so much missing information at this point, it's just crazy to assassinate the sheriff so quickly.

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SpaceKitty

Dec 10, 13 13:33

Post #80 of 103 (974 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [dreaming~big] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

dreaming~big wrote:
Honestly, I figured he was one of those Brits or Aussies who routinely mangle the English language.

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RowToTri

Dec 10, 13 13:36

Post #81 of 103 (970 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [Rokko] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Citizens have a right to expect that their law enforcement officers are not "fucking assholes" and do not deserve to have protection removed because they speak up about it. I always just assumed all cops were all good guys until I started interacting with them more and have learned that what seems to be a significantly larger percentage of them than the general population really are assholes. Most recently I was detained and cursed out by a cop riding a motor scooter on a bike path when I said to myself, "that seems dangerous", where he threatened to arrest me and every other cyclist because he does not like them.

I was at a house party where a cop was gleefully telling the attendees that that day he really wanted to beat on somebody so he found an excuse to pull someone over, waited for them to give him the slightest amount of lip (which I am sure he provoked) and then smashed him in the face and put him on the ground. The cop was laughing hysterically about it.

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Fastyellow

Dec 10, 13 13:36

Post #82 of 103 (968 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [HalfSpeed] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

HalfSpeed wrote:
vikingstumps wrote:
There are some witnesses stating the cyclist swerved into the lane in front of the patrol car. Lets pump the brakes alittle bit.

Funny how your post is being ignored. I was wondering if there were witnesses. There is so much missing information at this point, it's just crazy to assassinate the sheriff so quickly.

No way Man....that's not how Slowtwitch operates. We convict and then go through the "facts"....whatever those things are. Didn't you see there's been corruption in the police department? Obviously this cop woke up with the intention of plowing one of those damn cyclists....and all his thug buddies on the force were stoked he did.

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HalfSpeed

Dec 10, 13 13:38

Post #83 of 103 (962 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [Fastyellow] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

He probably got on his radio and screamed, "10 Points!!"

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sharkbait_au

Dec 10, 13 14:19

Post #84 of 103 (898 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [dreaming~big] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

dreaming~big wrote:
Honestly, I figured he was one of those Brits or Aussies who routinely mangle the English language.

~~ kate
Um, a Brit mangling the English language? Isn't that their perogative? At least they don't need to qualify everything with "honestly", so we can tell when they are not lying ;)

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Gary Mc

Dec 10, 13 14:21

Post #85 of 103 (894 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [vikingstumps] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

vikingstumps wrote:
There are some witnesses stating the cyclist swerved into the lane in front of the patrol car. Lets pump the brakes alittle bit.


Where are you seeing this? What I am reading is saying that The cyclist was in the bike lane. http://www.dailynews.com/...rol-car-in-calabasas
and
Investigators confirmed to CBS2′s Melanie Woodrow the deputy was on routine patrol and was not responding to an emergency at the time of the collision. They also confirmed that Olin, a prominent entertainment attorney, was in the bike lane when he was struck.
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Tri_Geek_40-44

Dec 10, 13 14:29

Post #86 of 103 (887 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [Fastyellow] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

After reading this article, it's your post that comes off comical. The corruption in the LAPD and LASD is well known and talked about all over the USA. All the talk does not stem from the choir boy image you are trying to portray. :-)

Article:

http://www.latimes.com/....story#axzz2n76SVEat


starkrayz

Dec 10, 13 14:32

Post #87 of 103 (882 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [Fastyellow] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Fastyellow wrote:
This post almost strikes me as comical. I've lived here my entire life (38years)....I grew up less than a quarter mile from this accident on Paul Revere Dr.
Funny you said this. I was jogging on Glasgow this morning and saw a cruiser cut off a lady and her kid who were trying to walk through the intersection. Perhaps things are cheery and "comical" up in Calabasas, Lost Hills, et al. But I live off 135th in Hawthorne (near Inglewood Av) and the cops we see don't practice what they preach. Nor did they in Mar Vista. Nor did they in Gardena.


Fastyellow

Dec 10, 13 14:39

Post #88 of 103 (872 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [Tri_Geek_40-44] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Tri_Geek_40-44 wrote:
After reading this article, it's your post that comes off comical. The corruption in the LAPD and LASD is well known and talked about all over the USA. All the talk does not stem from the choir boy image you are trying to portray. :-)

Article:

http://www.latimes.com/....story#axzz2n76SVEat

Choir boy image? Hardly. I was conveying a different perspective of our officers here. People can give their opinions of what they believe goes on here but I can also give mine. The other post talked about cops speeding all over the place, through neighborhoods and other anecdotal tales of "bad behavior". I was simply conveying MY encounters with the police here. My experience tells me that some are good, some bad, and most are in between...just like every other walk of life. YMMV.

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AlanShearer

Dec 10, 13 14:52

Post #89 of 103 (853 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [HalfSpeed] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

HalfSpeed wrote:
vikingstumps wrote:
There are some witnesses stating the cyclist swerved into the lane in front of the patrol car. Lets pump the brakes alittle bit.

Funny how your post is being ignored. I was wondering if there were witnesses. There is so much missing information at this point, it's just crazy to assassinate the sheriff so quickly.

Investigators confirmed to the press that he was in the bike lane. Assuming that's accurate, then why would the investigators confirm it if witnesses were saying otherwise? Why not just keep quiet?

Not that it's not possible, but I'd be skeptical of the last minute swerve excuse.


WorkLiveTri

Dec 10, 13 15:23

Post #90 of 103 (816 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [logella] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

The man who was struck and killed was the father of one of my athletes and I am not simply just heart broken for his loss but I am also pissed that the larger picture is being lost; distracted/texting driving is a growing problem and equally (possibly more) dangerous than drunk driving.

It doesnít matter to me if the driver was a cop, a teenager, an asshole or a priest. It doesnít matter to me if said person was driving a car, truck, cop car or a Prius. What matters to me is a fellow teammate has to bury his father. What matters to me is that some how society changes its ways and begins to truly see the danger in distracted driving. For my friends father to the cyclists in London to the children playing and other loved ones on the road killed by distracted drivers something needs to change.

Social media is strong enough to create a movement large enough to help a Cafe owner keep his store name against Specialized; well is it strong enough to help save lives? How do we create the MADD of today?

I am a triathlon coach not a social media wizard but I do not want to ever receive another email like the one I received the other day from Geoff. So instead of all of us ranting about if cops are assholes or not lets maybe put are heads together and save the lives of the other cyclists out there, including our own.

So lets get this thread back on track and figure out what we need to do as a group to stop people from killing others because they are driving distracted.

What is next?

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Francois

Dec 10, 13 16:12

Post #91 of 103 (774 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [WorkLiveTri] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

As I said: long term driver's license suspension for anyone who kills someone on the road, unless it's really an accident, and on top of whatever else if the person also is high/drunk/speeding or fled the scene.
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shadwell

Dec 10, 13 16:13

Post #92 of 103 (774 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [Tri_Geek_40-44] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Haha it's "Loot".... "ya dumb shit".. if it were a "Lute" they wold be splitting a small instrument... :)


CPA_PFS

Dec 10, 13 16:26

Post #93 of 103 (749 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [Francois] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Francois wrote:
As I said: long term driver's license suspension for anyone who kills someone on the road, unless it's really an accident, and on top of whatever else if the person also is high/drunk/speeding or fled the scene.



I'm not of the opinion that this would be a deterrent. Many drivers today do not have driver's licenses and/or liability insurance ... yet they still drive. They only have a consequence in the event they are stopped. I just googled my state and the penalty for driving without a license is a $200 fine. By way of contrast, one of my friends was ticketed for not stopping at a stop sign ... while riding a bike. That fine was $180.

So if your solution was implemented it would be wise to put some deterrent in the penalty for driving without a license.


(This post was edited by CPA_PFS on Dec 10, 13 16:28)


Francois

Dec 10, 13 16:32

Post #94 of 103 (742 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [CPA_PFS] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Agreed. I don't know how the implementation would go after...financial penalties, or jail time etc.
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Tri_Geek_40-44

Dec 10, 13 21:42

Post #95 of 103 (634 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [shadwell] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Auto-correct- it's why I hate posting using my phone.


shadwell

Dec 10, 13 21:54

Post #96 of 103 (628 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [Tri_Geek_40-44] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Haha it was a good auto correct :)

I just leave my shithouse typing as is.. Stupid tiny buttons on I phone...


windschatten

Dec 10, 13 22:51

Post #97 of 103 (608 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [dreaming~big] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

dreaming~big wrote:
Not so sure why this is funny? It's perfectly appropriate for diacrit over the upsilon in Greek to be translated into English either as an "hu" or a "hy".

Hubris /ˈhjuːbrɪs/, also hybris, from ancient Greek ὕβρις, means extreme pride or arrogance.

Seems to me that he rather nailed it.


~~ db

edited to add: apparently your software doesn't allow for Greek alphabet symbols. :(

Thanks, but it really is my mistake as an non native speaker with classic education (I would have to chuckle if I had to write it with an U--totally inappropriate given the occasion).

But should've been more careful, given the fast and happy adoption of the word "kindergarten", which was then immediately butchered into "kindergarden" to give it the appearance of some originality.

Back on topic:

Accident will be going into the books as another SWSS (single witness suicide swerve).


Scott_D

Dec 11, 13 5:19

Post #98 of 103 (550 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [starkrayz] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Doesn't California have the Blake Society to cover everything up, just look for a 3 dot tattoo on their shoulders...


devine

Dec 11, 13 5:29

Post #99 of 103 (538 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [trihard4me] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Wow, lace up them shoes bro!
Go for a run, your blood pressure is a little high!
Get pissy after all of the facts are in.


Bmanners

Dec 11, 13 5:43

Post #100 of 103 (526 views)
Re: LA cop hits and kills cyclist in bike lane [Francois] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

We need a like button :0)
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