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IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help!
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Alright, I signed up for IM Boulder as my first full IM back in early March, knowing full and well that my son would be born a month later. My previous experience is only in the Sprint/Oly distances but I do pretty well there and decided to just jump straight to full IM vs doing a half IM. I had been training loosely mostly with the bike (6hours/wk), run (maybe an hr a week of sprinting daily), and a couple hours a week of pool work, without any kind of a plan up until earlier this month as I decided to get serious about his upcoming race. Calculating the weeks to i realized I only had 8 weeks to IM Boulder.. so my free 12 week plan I downloaded from triradar was already 25% in motion! Crap. So I started the swim exercise the next morning and doubled down with a run plan that was supposed to be done the day before. That night I started to feel like I maybe had way too much oatmeal and had abdominal pains that lasted through the next evening when it started to get serious with flu-like symptoms starting in. The next day I go to the doctor and find out I have to get my appendix removed! So my newborn child who is only 2 weeks old wont let us sleep through the night, and I'm loaded up on drugs recovering from laparoscopic surgery and thinking about this race. How the eff..My doctor was supposed to call me and schedule a follow up but I haven't heard anything. I feel fine and have been fast walking (12-15min/mi) several miles every day since the surgery with the baby stroller just to keep some fitness and z2 work going. I haven't biked since the end of March, nor swam or ran since mid April. I just got home with a new Bob stroller so I have the tools to get some actually running in and expect to start Monday with swimming and some bike trainer work. I am 36 and not in bad shape but also feel I lost the wheel on my preparation and some of it was my fault due to poor timing of my race choice. Hindsight now, I have already paid for the race and it looms in on June 11th about 6 weeks away.

So what are my options?

1) Pick up on this freebie training plan and pretend Ive been doing the first 6 weeks of this 12 week plan and taper when it says to taper.
2) Do the same plan but reduce it from 3 weeks to 1 week?
3) NO taper except the 2 days I'll spend traveling to Boulder arriving either the 8th or 9th of June. I was reading Rob Gray's IMTX race report and saw he had an unusual taper.. but I am NOT Rob Gray. :)
4) Can I even reschedule this race and maybe pick another venue? I don't want to but I am trying to be realistic without...
5) <strike>Give up it's hopeless</strike>


Here's this plan I speak of. Theres 2 plans on there. I started with the 6-11 hr plan. The first one.

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/kpdocshare/Training_Plans/TRI38.First_Ironman.pdf



edit: my wife had the baby, not me ;)





So yeah.. HELP!!?


Last edited by: NotSoFast80: Apr 28, 17 19:32
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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Don't know your definition of enjoyable, but don't think you'll use that word to describe your first IM!

Good luck with whatever route you decide on!
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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Find a different race if you can transfer. If you are looking to just be able to claim you have done an IM then go to IM Boulder and doggie paddle, spin, and walk the course if needed to say you did it. However, if you want more than that, I would suggest the prior route, find a different venue if possible.

If you can't transfer to a different venue then I would seriously consider chalking this one up to an ID10T error. Forget the money, its not worth it if its your first IM, new baby and momma in tow and you are not "ready" for the race. Yup, sucks you lost some money. I would rather lose some money than have one of the worst racing experiences of my life.
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [HonestYP] [ In reply to ]
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HonestYP wrote:

Find a different race if you can transfer. If you are looking to just be able to claim you have done an IM then go to IM Boulder and doggie paddle, spin, and walk the course if needed to say you did it. However, if you want more than that, I would suggest the prior route, find a different venue if possible.

If you can't transfer to a different venue then I would seriously consider chalking this one up to an ID10T error. Forget the money, its not worth it if its your first IM, new baby and momma in tow and you are not "ready" for the race. Yup, sucks you lost some money. I would rather lose some money than have one of the worst racing experiences of my life.



^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^

Furthermore, unless you live as close as Denver to this race and Momma and your INFANT child can stay home, then from this woman's perspective, you are making a spectacular mistake dragging a child that small onto a plane and inconveniencing a nursing mother who isn't getting enough sleep already. This is SO MANY WAYS OF WRONG that I am dumbfounded you are even considering this. Many races await, but the mother of your newborn child and the welfare of that baby should come FIRST. And on top of that, you just had surgery...OY!

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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [SallyShortyPnts] [ In reply to ]
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SallyShortyPnts wrote:
HonestYP wrote:

Find a different race if you can transfer. If you are looking to just be able to claim you have done an IM then go to IM Boulder and doggie paddle, spin, and walk the course if needed to say you did it. However, if you want more than that, I would suggest the prior route, find a different venue if possible.

If you can't transfer to a different venue then I would seriously consider chalking this one up to an ID10T error. Forget the money, its not worth it if its your first IM, new baby and momma in tow and you are not "ready" for the race. Yup, sucks you lost some money. I would rather lose some money than have one of the worst racing experiences of my life.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS

Furthermore, unless you live as close as Denver to this race and Momma and your INFANT child can stay home, then from this woman's perspective, you are making a spectacular mistake dragging a child that small onto a plane and inconveniencing a nursing mother who isn't getting enough sleep already. This is SO MANY WAYS OF WRONG that I am dumbfounded you are even considering this. Many races await, but the mother of your newborn child and the welfare of that baby should come FIRST. And on top of that, you just had surgery...OY!


They would not be coming. I would never want them to do that. I have training in Denver that week and wanted to do a short race. Didn't find one and jumped on this one, mistakenly. I have family at home who will help while I'm gone. Like I said I feel like I should reschedule if it's an option.
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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Pull the motherfckn pin. If you live in Boulder or Denver go and pick up your free stuff then tell them you're not racing. Walk around the expo and lament that you're not in shape. Go home and enjoy the new baby and your wife. Do the race next year.
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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If you can't get a transfer or refund then maybe just do the swim just for the experience. That way you don't have to transport the bike but you probably learn from being part of it.
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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Bag it! Transfer to a fall IM and schedule a half 8-12 weeks before. Show a little respect for the distance in your approach to training. E.g., a lot more volume but with a reasonable amount of time to build up without breaking down.
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [kiwi.] [ In reply to ]
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kiwi. wrote:
If you live in Boulder or Denver go and pick up your free stuff then tell them you're not racing. Walk around the expo and lament that you're not in shape. Go home and enjoy the new baby and your wife. Do the race next year.

Yup^^^^
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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Ok so see if you can get a transfer to another race. Probably unlikely but you may as well try.
But if you're going to be there anyway for your training course...

This is what I would do:
1. Do the training and then make the call during race week. Anyone can do a short taper like I did for IMTX, you just won't feel nice and fresh on race day.
2. I wouldn't just pick up the free stuff and then not race. I would treat it as a supported training day. You just need to get into good enough shape to survive the swim (easily doable in 8 weeks) and not be destroyed by the bike. As for the run, you can do a run/walk on race day and get through it. So if you cannot do the race transfer, then just do the training and you will know by race week if you're confident enough to start. If you're not , then just don't race.
3. Don't try to "catch up" or "make up workouts" on a downloaded plan. You need to listen to your body and push it just enough to create an adaptation without destroying yourself. I would just simplify the whole thing. Run at least 30 min a day, one long run per week as long as you can without it making you super sore. Bike 3-4 x per week, go long 1 x per week if you can make it happen (might be hard to do with an infant having arrived, that would be my #1 concern). Swim 3 x per week, if you have a good masters program that should help.
4. Don't stress about training or the race. You already have enough life stress so don't add to it. Just do what you can and then decide closer to race day. Having a baby in the house calls for a lot of flexibility. If you're trying to stick to a schedule, that could stress you out even more when you can't get it done.
5. FYI - You can't put an infant in a stroller until they are about 6 months old. Their neck cannot support their head enough to do that.

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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [kiwi.] [ In reply to ]
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kiwi. wrote:
Pull the motherfckn pin. If you live in Boulder or Denver go and pick up your free stuff then tell them you're not racing. Walk around the expo and lament that you're not in shape. Go home and enjoy the new baby and your wife. Do the race next year.

This. For the love of god, do this.

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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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Go to the expo, pick up your freebies and then go out to a bar and booze it up. Skip the race and then head home to your wife and baby. You can decide whether or not to tell your wife you skipped the race and partied hard.
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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I'm wondering why people are even saying go to the expo. You'll get a bunch of fliers for races, a backpack for a race you didn't do,, a can of Red Bull and some other shit you will never use. Skip the expo go straight to booze
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [ChrisM] [ In reply to ]
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ChrisM wrote:
I'm wondering why people are even saying go to the expo. You'll get a bunch of fliers for races, a backpack for a race you didn't do,, a can of Red Bull and some other shit you will never use. Skip the expo go straight to booze


Good point. In that case, just leave your bike in the car at the airport, change your flight to Vegas, party really hard and then blame the Iroman for making you sit on the couch for 2 days after you get home.
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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I say try and get a refund. I half a$@! My last one and it ruined it for me. Not saying i wouldnt do another one but i def am burnt out. Not a pleasent experience. I would hate for you to have a terrible first experience and never want to do it again.

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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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I agree with Rob Gray, with one variation. I was recovering from a fractured ankle once and couldn't run, but my doc said it was OK to do the swim and bike if I wore a brace. To completely avoid the temptation after the bike, I did not check in a T2 bag. If you do not want to walk the "run," just skip it. You can learn a lot from just doing the swim and bike -- especially pacing, nutrition, bike setup, etc. -- that will help get you ready to do an IM when you are better prepared. You won't learn much by walking 26.2 afterwards and, even at your young age, you have a pretty good chance of injuring yourself (and a really good chance of being completely miserable) if you try to do much running.
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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sadly, WTC has a 45 day limit on transfers... you'd likely lose the money at this point but it doesn't hurt to try and ask nicely?

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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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If your wife is cool with you training and SLEEPING as much as you'd probably need to in order to somewhat enjoy the race, then go for it.

If you're going to be getting little sleep and struggling to get the workouts done, then skip it. Recovery from your surgery, spend time with your family and once your child is on a more predictable daily schedule then start training a little and find an IM for the fall or 2018.
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [stickboy1125] [ In reply to ]
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Just wanted to thank everyone for the tips!



Cancelling is obviously not an option since we are beyond the 45 day cut off. Should have made this thread a couple days sooner. Oh well!


Let me just be clear, I am NOT abandoning my family for the sake of a race. I am on leave and vacation for the next few weeks which makes this situation not as bad as someone who comes home from 40hr/week and tries this. I am helping mom out tremendously and let her sleep through the night. My wife supports me in this and I wouldn't be doing this any other way. Doing this race puts me out of town just 1 or 2 extra days as I will be there for work anyways. My mom is moving in in a couple weeks and will be here to help out as well. So theres that.


My solution is to take opportunity to nap when the baby does to catch up from the night before. Then after I am I use the next nap interval to do some work on the trainer. When its cooler I take the baby out on the Bob with the carseat adapter utilizing safe sidewalks. I don't do z4 work with the stroller. Keeping it aerobic. The stroller has shock absorbers so really he sleeps through the runs. Where I live there are Saturday morning open water group swim followed by a group cycle. Once my mom is here I will have more opportunity to get a longer work out in. For now Its intervals.

As some have said, this will likely SUCK but as a first race I will take all the experience I can get, which includes remembering to plan and periodize my training much more carefully the next go around. Having done a century before I know the bike segment alone is going to kick my butt. Put a 1:20 swim in front of it and I am sure I will be ready to quit if I gave myself an excuse before I even start the run. I cant imagine I will be cramping on the bike so long as I keep my nutrition plan together. I will not run through an injury but wont quit because I'm tired. Wherever I have to stop, I will.

The goal for me for my first IM was sub 12 hours and that might have been doable if I hadn't had the 3-4 week lapse in my routine. Maybe I didn't explain my tri-sport routine carefully but given my base that I have maintained for the last couple of years I don't think is a Couch-to-Ironman situation. Just wasn't on a specific plan to follow. I am thinking I will do ~1:30 on the swim (taking it easy), 6:00 on the Bike (taking it easy), and 4:00 on the run (doing my best to finish strong given the circumstances). I figure with the loss of fitness from those 4 weeks I gain an hour.

Honestly, I'd rather Did Not Finish than Did Not Show Up.




Thanks again!
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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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Let us know how you get on. I've been in a similar situation myself a couple of times.

First time I pulled the pin and didn't go. I was gutted but it was the right thing to do (I did swiftly booked an autumn marathon as a consolation event). Second time it happened I went for it - I took it easy on race day, and I did ok, but the last 10 miles of the run was horrible. Not horrible enough to stop me driving a few hours home that night, but I did question my sanity a few times as the sun was setting. Both were the right decisions based on the situation at that time.

But seriously, let us know how it goes.

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Re: IM Boulder coming up and I am not ready. Help! [NotSoFast80] [ In reply to ]
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I'd give it a shot with the only goal being making the cutoffs.

Plan to swim for 100-110 minutes, transition for 10 mins, take close to 8 hours to bike (ie about 14.5 mph with 3-4 5 minute breaks for peeing/stretching), transition for another 5-10 and then jog/walk the run. You will have about 6 hours to do this so if you can average 12 min miles or so you should be good.

In my opinion, most people who do well in an oly can pull this off, but it won't be pretty. Be very careful with hydration and at the first sign of rhybdo setting in during the run/walk, bail. Good luck.

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