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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Kwemoi is the first east african I've ever seen running in compressions. But it might be because of injurie. Would also explain is struggles.

The first heat was stacked as hell but slow. Centro obviously suffers still from his rough preparation.

10k - 30:48 / half - 1:06:40
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [ToBeasy] [ In reply to ]
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Tomorrow's 800m women's semifinal has 14 athletes who have posted sub 2 this year with Semenya on deck with a season's best of 1:55. No one else is inside 1:57
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [ToBeasy] [ In reply to ]
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Also in the men's 1500m semifinals we only have 2 athletes who have run sub 3:30 this year. Coe, Ovett and Cram could actually be in the mix with these guys (3:32 for Coe's gold at the LA Olympics 1500m).
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev,

I think you need to edit the title as all but Gatlin and Farah have fallen to lesser known athletes! Love the post Oly year, the WC is wide open!



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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [CPT Chaos] [ In reply to ]
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...it's not over yet. All the people in the thread title are in line for gold medals on the weekend relays. Also Van Niekerk did win the 400m and just came up short in the 200m finals. Do you think Farah can do the double AGAIN or can the rest of these guys wear him down? The crazy thing is Mo's 1500m PB is BETTER than any of the season's best time for the 1500m runners on deck right now in this championships. That's what the rest of the 5000m people are up against!
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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True, but the show has been about the unknowns that have won!



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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [CPT Chaos] [ In reply to ]
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Well...Van Niekerk did win the 400, so he probably doesn't need editing out....
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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But he did lose to Guliyev (who??) in the 200! The 400 hurdles was won by a Norwegian guy (Warholm) no one has ever heard of (outside of Norway) of the big favourite Clement. Carter beat the reigning Oly champion Muhammad from the outside lane in the women's 400 hurdles.

Sure, V-N and Farah have won a race (and maybe two in Farah's case by the week's end), but they are not the story in this WC.



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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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TriBriGuy wrote:
Well...Van Niekerk did win the 400, so he probably doesn't need editing out....


I was wondering if Van Niekerk and the South African's had any chance for a 4x400 medal, but the money there seems to be on the US and Botswana, unless South Africa can recruit 3/4 of the Texas A&M 4x400 squad who apparently have clocked 6 of the top 8 fastest 4x400 times this year:

https://www.iaaf.org/...ay-iaaf-world-champi

Anyway, the 4x400 should be Maklawa's shot at a medal. The guy ran sub 20 and sub 44 on the SAME day earlier this year and hopefully is recovered from his sickness by the weekend.
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Good grief - more unfortunate news for Canada Track fans. Apparently, Damian Warner was one of the Canadians hit hard by the norovirus. He started the Decathlon this morning, but has been off-form in the three events so far today and currently is sitting in 6th place after the 3rd event, the Shot Put. Still a long way to go, but this is a real sub-par start for him. His two best events come up tomorrow - the 110 Hurdles and the Long Jump.

Busy night (afternoon for us at home) for Canadians at the Track - Mel Bishop in the semi-finals of the 800m, Crystal Emmanual in the semis for the 200m, Phylicia George in the Semis for the 100m Hurdles, Genvieve Lalonde in the 3000m Steeplechase Final, and of course Warner carrying on in the Decathlon with the High Jump and the 400m to go today for the Decathletes.

Who's been watching the Live Stream?


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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [CPT Chaos] [ In reply to ]
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CPT Chaos wrote:
But he did lose to Guliyev (who??) in the 200! The 400 hurdles was won by a Norwegian guy (Warholm) no one has ever heard of (outside of Norway) of the big favourite Clement. Carter beat the reigning Oly champion Muhammad from the outside lane in the women's 400 hurdles.

Sure, V-N and Farah have won a race (and maybe two in Farah's case by the week's end), but they are not the story in this WC.

Well, Warholm has won two Diamond League meets this year, including beaten Clement in Oslo.
It is only people not following the sport that think it was a surprise, especially when you factor in the weather.
Fair weather athletes always struggle in rain.

Also, some athletes have great results from spring, but the world championship is not in April or May, it is in August.
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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True, but DL events often lack true quality beyond one or two athletes per event, and so I did not expect him to shine at this level. Fab that he did though!



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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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Halvard wrote:
CPT Chaos wrote:
But he did lose to Guliyev (who??) in the 200! The 400 hurdles was won by a Norwegian guy (Warholm) no one has ever heard of (outside of Norway) of the big favourite Clement. Carter beat the reigning Oly champion Muhammad from the outside lane in the women's 400 hurdles.

Sure, V-N and Farah have won a race (and maybe two in Farah's case by the week's end), but they are not the story in this WC.


Well, Warholm has won two Diamond League meets this year, including beaten Clement in Oslo.
It is only people not following the sport that think it was a surprise, especially when you factor in the weather.
Fair weather athletes always struggle in rain.

Also, some athletes have great results from spring, but the world championship is not in April or May, it is in August.

Tell that to Mirinda Carfrae....it depends on your version of fair weather. Paula Radcliffe would also do better in the cool and rain due to her hugeness relative to other women marathoners, which is why she generally sucked at every Olympic games due to the relative heat. Agreed on getting great results in August vs April. Gatlin actually pointed this out about Coleman racing the entire NCAA indoor and outdoor season and then the summer season too with no break. Guys like Gatlin and Bolt picked and chose when they were going to go hard. We also saw the same with Maklawa in the 200m/400m (well he did not do the 400m), but underperformed in the 200m while he was on fire earlier in the year.
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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3000SC = USA

What a race. USA 1 and 2!!!!!!!!

I am listening to Norwegian radio, it broadcasts the championship live.
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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3000SC = USA What a race. USA 1 and 2!!!!!!!! I am listening to Norwegian radio, it broadcasts the championship live.

hey. i'm stalking you in another thread i started.

but yeah! i didn't see the race. but i saw the result! some shock and awe, baby, some fire and fury! our ladies came locked and loaded!

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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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beautiful race! when you go 1-2 like that the tactics looked perfect. Was fully expecting them to get out kicked with 200 to go but they both were up for the challenge. So proud of Emma and Courtney!



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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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Us Brits having a shocker, what's the fall out going to be like after this? Maybe we pick up a couple of more medals in the relays and obviously Mo.

Is there a chance of funds being pulled?
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Jackets] [ In reply to ]
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For those who did not see today's evening sessions from London, here is the full video of the livestream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEsPyaSDxhY

Tomorrow, Bolt's final race in the 4x100....another round of Bolt vs Gatlin and then we're done forever. And Mo Farah in the 5000m .
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Jackets] [ In reply to ]
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Jackets wrote:
Us Brits having a shocker, what's the fall out going to be like after this? Maybe we pick up a couple of more medals in the relays and obviously Mo.

Is there a chance of funds being pulled?

Not a thing we have to worry about in the USA as we have no direct government funding.
I've heard some of how British funding for cycling shrinks w/o good results.
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Jackets] [ In reply to ]
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Jackets wrote:
Us Brits having a shocker, what's the fall out going to be like after this? Maybe we pick up a couple of more medals in the relays and obviously Mo.

Is there a chance of funds being pulled?

Five 4th places so far though, and all from young athletes so is it really that bad? Apart from KJT in the hep and maybe Muir in the 1500 has anyone really underperformed? The 6-8 medal target seemed rather optimistic to me.
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [r0bh] [ In reply to ]
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r0bh wrote:
Jackets wrote:
Us Brits having a shocker, what's the fall out going to be like after this? Maybe we pick up a couple of more medals in the relays and obviously Mo.

Is there a chance of funds being pulled?

Five 4th places so far though, and all from young athletes so is it really that bad? Apart from KJT in the hep and maybe Muir in the 1500 has anyone really underperformed? The 6-8 medal target seemed rather optimistic to me.

Hopefuly the people making the decisions see it that way, there's a lot of money being pumped into sport (The majority lottery isn't it?) I'm sure there are a few nervous people in charge at a high level worried over there jobs.
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Jackets wrote:
r0bh wrote:
Jackets wrote:
Us Brits having a shocker, what's the fall out going to be like after this? Maybe we pick up a couple of more medals in the relays and obviously Mo.

Is there a chance of funds being pulled?


Five 4th places so far though, and all from young athletes so is it really that bad? Apart from KJT in the hep and maybe Muir in the 1500 has anyone really underperformed? The 6-8 medal target seemed rather optimistic to me.


Hopefuly the people making the decisions see it that way, there's a lot of money being pumped into sport (The majority lottery isn't it?) I'm sure there are a few nervous people in charge at a high level worried over there jobs.

Looks like GB got into the finals in the 4x400 for tonite. It is too bad how funding like this works in most countries, but rewarding only after winning vs rewarding for potential so you can use the money and build and win. Basically it's like VC's funding a company once they have success vs funding a company that has high potential and needs money to get to success. So in essence, the next generation of potential can only get funded if the current generation is winning. By definition the next gen is not winning "yet" even though you may be sitting on a future Usein Bolt or Mo Farah. You need the current champions winning to bring in money for the next round the way things are funded in most countries. The US is a different animal because they effectively have a pro sports farm system built into their university system with an insane amount of private sector money coming into Div 1 sports via gates receipts, TV and sponsorships for the biggest sports funding the other sports. The rest of the world does not put any real emphasis on sport in the college system (as it should be). So then its down to the sports funding themselves through sponsorship, gate receipts, memberships and govt $$$ infusions.
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Jackets] [ In reply to ]
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Here is the line up for tonite's 4x100 final, Bolt's final race:


POSRANKHEATATHLETECOUNTRYRESULTSMS*111UNITED STATESUSA37.70 Q WL221GREAT BRITAIN & N.I.GBR37.76 Q SB312JAMAICAJAM37.95 Q SB422FRANCEFRA38.03 Q SB532PR OF CHINACHN38.20 Q 631JAPANJPN38.21 Q SB741TURKEYTUR38.44 q SB842CANADACAN38.48 q
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Halvard] [ In reply to ]
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The steeple was a great race. Some good tactical racing, but unlike some of the men's races I've seen lately (1500, 5k, etc) the strategy didn't get in the way of fast times. Coburn looked really smooth and made a great move to the inside on the last water jump

Matt
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Re: IAAF Track Works: Bolt-Gatlin-Farah-Thompson-Felix-Van Niekerk [Pun_Times] [ In reply to ]
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Her last water jump was perfect. She used it to launch herself far down the water where it is less deep and less steep and carried the momentum into the dry part of the track. It's like she instantly opened up 6-8 feet gap right there and then just sustained that momentum rather than having to expend energy accelerating her her body up to speed after the massive deceleration when you land with more a vertical component (which her competition had to do). All the potential energy at the top of the jump she just converted mainly to forward kinetic energy. Very nicely done.
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